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Astar
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada.
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Posted:Heres the problem.

When magellan circumnavigated the globe leaving from spain and arriving back in spain his crew put a notch on the rail for everyday they were out to sea.

Back in the port in spain a person counted everyday on the calendar that they were gone.

When magellan returned the day's recorded were off by a day.

Remember these are navigators who are extreamly good at what they do, record keeping was neccesary for their survival. They didn't make a ny mistakes with the recording of days.

Explain the discrepancy in days

By the way this is a true story and I don't know the answer.


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TheBovrilMonkey
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Posted:I'm a bit too tired to work it properly, but I think it's got to do with crossing the date line.

The men on magellan's ship wouldn't notice when they crossed the date line, it'd just be another day to make another notch in the rail - the sun would rise and set at pretty much the same time as normal as far as they're concerned since they're not moving that quickly.

However, by constantly moving around the world, each new time zone would put them slightly out of sync with spain - a small amount of time from each time zone around the world would add up to a day, but they'd only notice when they had something to compare it to that hadn't been moving.

Hmm, that probably doesn't explain it very well, but I'm going to bed


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UCOF
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Posted:or a magical cow floated down from the sky on a bed of cartoon slippers and using her magical pencil, rubbed out one of the notches.,..

either way works for me..


here is one that has been pissing me off for ages...originally from the Batman series...then sampled in a song by Fingaathing (or the tip top rippity rhubarby dj shadow)

there a 3 men in a boat with 4 ciggerettes and no matches....how do they manage to smoke?

i think they might use a lighter...


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Red_RaveN
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Location: Sala, Slovakia
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Posted:quote:Originally posted by THE UNTIED CHINS OF FUR:
here is one that has been pissing me off for ages...originally from the Batman series...then sampled in a song by Fingaathing (or the tip top rippity rhubarby dj shadow)

there a 3 men in a boat with 4 ciggerettes and no matches....how do they manage to smoke?

i think they might use a lighter... Well they pull their **** out and... uhh...
*starts feeling bad about having stupid thoughts*
yknow...
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...
...

Okay Ill cut it out...


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Cantus
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Posted:Bovril is mostly right.

Assuming that their original point was on the Greenwich Meridian and they left at 12.01pm.

If they left spain and headed left round the world/anti clockwise/whatever each timezone they pass through would effectively lose them one hour.

So by the time they have sailed completely round the world they will be one full day (24 hrs) behind.

Hope this made sense to some one.


UCOF - they had a lighter. That's also how they lit their candles (in anohter version of the riddle). But thinking about it they must've had a lighter..... how else would they light their poi?

But to cook the pop tarts the must've had a toaster.....


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"...like a rabbit caught in a lighthouse?" - Chellybean

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CheshireCat
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Location: London or Wiesbaden, Germany
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Posted:mm..poptarts...*walks off into the general direction of her kitchen*..
(not that that comment does anyone any good...)
UCOF, a bed of slippers?! whats that supposed to be? youve got it all wrong...he was WEARING the cartoon slippers and the bed was made of cotton candy...*shakes head*


It aint broke...It just lacks large amounts of duct-tape!

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Astar
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada.
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Posted:My teacher gave this riddle to us like 6 months ago. In the same class he told it to us me and another guy came up with enochs theory of "chaseing the sun" combined with even more inaccuracy because oh the time spent going around the tip of south america and africa, where daylight hours would be shorter due to the extreme southern lattitude.

The teacher told us we were wrong. We tried to convince him and the class again we were right in a couple of other classes between now and then.

After makeing the thread here and kworld and another forum I frequent someone found this

"The survivors of Magellans circumnavigation of the world were perplexed. They returned to Spain on Sunday, September 7, 1522, when they thought it was Saturday. They had departed three years earlier and must have assumed they made an error in counting the days. Reviewing the log, every day was correctly accounted for. A Renaissance geek figured it out. By chasing the sun west around the globe, they undid one rotation of the Earth, experiened one less sunset, and one less day. That lost 'day' was effectively spread out over the three years of their journey."
http://www.asa3.org/archive/asa/199712/0289.html
br>and this
http://www.naciente.com/essay63.htm
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So I am guessing my teacher will always tell everyone who comes up with any answer including the right one that they are wrong.
Because he is an asshole and wants us to keep guessing forever.


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Chimera
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Location: NC, USA
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Posted:Sorry to get of topic but has anyone else ever made a pop-tart blow torch? Put strawberry pop-tarts in a toaster (that you don't care about) plug it in and secure it so they won't pop up... Not to be tried inside. If you're lucky you can get a good 3 foot flame. Ok, maybe it's just me but it does provide some slight entertainment when bored.

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sarah...
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Posted:mmmm, dj shadow... mmm poptarts.
you could light your poi off that blowtorch
does it smell any good? like strawberries?
mmm strawberries.

teachers always tell you youre wrong, so you go off and question yourself until youre either concrete about your answer, or you develop a complex about always being wrong... i guess its good for you in some ways...?

~love and light~


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simian
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Posted:RIDDLER: there are 3 men in a boat with 4 cigarettes and no matches....how do they manage to smoke?

ROBIN: They throw a cigarette overboard and made the boat a cigarette lighter

RIDDLER: Correct, Boy Wonder!


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Nathdaninja
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Location: Manchester, England
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Posted:<rushes to kitchen to find old toaster and poptart >
I spot a fingathing fan


boing...boing...When the naive man admits his naivete, he is no longer naive.Thus, all people are regarded by society as either ignorant or a liar.Wonders never cease, as long as you never cease to wonder.

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NYC
NYC

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Posted:It's more of a qwirk than a riddle.

If Magellan's crew had kept track of the day using accurate time pieces, they wouldn't have lost the day as they would have remained on Spanish time the whole time.

But they kept track of the day using the rotation of the earth (the sun passing across the sky) so they unrotated once.

If they'd have gone the other way, they'd have gained a day.

Cool, thanks Astar.


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Yes, let's go.
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Pele'sWhippingBoy
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Location: Rochester, NY, USA
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Posted:A cigarette lighter? *groan*

Riddle:
The maker does not want it.
The buyer can not use it.
The user can not see it nor feel it.
What is it?


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Red_RaveN
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Location: Sala, Slovakia
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Posted:A coffin : o )

what is it that belongs to you but is used mostly by others..?

the more that there is, the less you see?

you have a barrel of water. what must you add to make it lighter.?

have fun, they are easy but its at least somethin



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Pele'sWhippingBoy
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Posted:quote:Originally posted by White RaveN:
A coffin : o )Yeah, but it really got me the first time I heard it.

quote:what is it that belongs to you but is used mostly by others..?I'd rather not say, this is a family friendly site.

quote:the more that there is, the less you see?Darkness?

quote:you have a barrel of water. what must you add to make it lighter.?A hole?

What gets wetter, the more it dries?


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Red_RaveN
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Posted:quote: I'd rather not say, this is a family friendly site.

umm... wrong... Its something different...
the other two are correct : o )

and the answer for you would be sponge : o )


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Pele'sWhippingBoy
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Posted:quote:what is it that belongs to you but is used mostly by others..?Your name.

And a sponge works, I had always heard a towel but it's the same answer.


FYI: I am not Pele. If you wish to reply to me and use a short version of my name, use: PWB.

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NYC
NYC

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Posted:{Puts on own head}

Actually, if you're bored... do a search. There are some pretty good riddles hidden in previous threads. OK, they're not hidden but it sounds cooler that way.


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Yes, let's go.
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Charles
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Posted:quote: you have a barrel of water. what must you add to make it lighter.?
Adding a hole works, but so does adding heat (if you add enough of it).

you can also add white paint to make the barrel 'lighter' than it was before.

Oh, yeah and you could add helium filled balloons to it.

Being pedantic, you could also add enough extra water on top to flood the area it is in to make it lighter when submerged (or half submerged).

Not that I'm pedantic or anything...


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Red_RaveN
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Posted:quote:Originally posted by Charles (INFERNO):
quote: you have a barrel of water. what must you add to make it lighter.?
Adding a hole works, but so does adding heat (if you add enough of it).

you can also add white paint to make the barrel 'lighter' than it was before.

Oh, yeah and you could add helium filled balloons to it.

Being pedantic, you could also add enough extra water on top to flood the area it is in to make it lighter when submerged (or half submerged).

Not that I'm pedantic or anything... not pedantic, but rather crazy..
no nice answers but holes is the oficcial one


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