tekknogurrl
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Location: New Paltz, NY, USA
Member Since: 13th Feb 2001
Total posts: 90
Posted:might wanna check this out...i know you work hard on maintaining this site, wouldn't wanna see someone steal it from ya:http://www.imblowinup.com/glowsticking.html

~K~No matter what you do, one billion Chinese won't care.

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mikeyb
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Location: Oxford, UK
Member Since: 5th Apr 2001
Total posts: 93
Posted:I went to the Feedback part of their site and posted a friendly, polite mail to them suggesting that, good as their site is, it would be really nice if they gave a better credit to Malcolm for his work.Maybe some mileage in a few dozen other people doing the same. Hyperlinking's the meat-and-potatoes ofthe web, after all, but credit where credit's due doesn't hurt.Then, if they don't do the right thing, further measures? Can always put a REFERRER filter on the server and block their links
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Mr Sock
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Location: Dover, DE
Member Since: 28th Apr 2001
Total posts: 94
Posted:Damn, wouldn't it have been easier for him to just put a link on his site? That's kinda beat.

Human salvation lies in the hands of the creatively maladjusted - Martin Luther King Jr.

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Posted:I sent them an email as well. I hope they figure out how lame stealing someone else's hard work is and remove it from their site. Sorry about the hassle, Malcolm. Much props for you efforts. Diana

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alterego
alterego

Warm beer is infinitely colder than no beer
Location: Boulder, Co
Member Since: 4th Jul 2001
Total posts: 222
Posted:Wow. Seeing that really tweaked my, well, you know. Hope I didnt do anything rash.Love always,Spanky

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Tsumi
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Location: SF CA USA
Member Since: 11th Feb 2001
Total posts: 32
Posted:Geez, that's some blatant ish tekkno..good that was noticed.

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Pele
Pele

the henna lady
Location: WNY, USA
Member Since: 15th Dec 2000
Total posts: 6193
Posted:I also submitted a comment.Did you all see where is said to mention it to your friends? Isn't that working against them now? (I pointed that out in the note I wrote!)------------------Pele Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir...

Pele
Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir
"Oooh look! A pub!" -exclaimed after recovering from a stupid fall
"And for the decadence of art, nothing beats a roaring fire." -TMK

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Posted:dis is what I wrote;On your glowsticking lessons page, you are linking to Home of Poi copyright resources. By omitting any credit to Home of Poi, you are infringing their copyright, and thus you are lame.Why can't you just provide a link to Home of Poi, rather than try to make out those are your resources?For sure I'll tell my friends.Josh-----just thought I'd follow on the good work you kids have done already.Josh

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Malcolm
Malcolm

HOP admin
Location: HOP
Member Since: 18th Nov 2003
Total posts: 996
Posted:Hmmm,I would have preferred just a link.Other naughty sites
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http://lasida.wz.cz/firechains/Corkscrew.htm (not sure what they are trying to do here)http://www.firetwirling.com/ (I have managed to burst out of their frame, but now they also open an advert window. Note: I really hate adverts)http://eyecandie.org/index2.htm (The links do not even work back to the HOP site)I have just finished moving all the graphics to another server to stop the many graphics on this site from being sourced to other sites. That is called Bandwidth theft
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. My biggest Bandwidth theft was coming from the Czech Republic. Plus many other small sites.I think that is all sorted out now.I am off to work on positive things now
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Thanks everyone for telling me about these other sites
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Kindest regardsMalcolm


"May your balls always burn"

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Posted:It must be really tiring for you Malcolm..about that ad that appears after the framebustout for www.firetwirling.com..you could whack in the bottom of your onload script, something likeself.focuswhich will push that little ad behind your window. I dont think you can close it cuz it was opened from a different website (security hole), but you can certainly push it behind your window when it loads, which I reckon is almost as good.yell if you need help, and respect as always.Josh

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emthren
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Location: Sydney
Member Since: 31st May 2001
Total posts: 57
Posted:Seems that site is just nasty in general... their "drug info" section links straight to www.erowid.org 's page.=(

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Posted:"...and thus you are lame"I love you, Josh. You rock my world.

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Posted:<hrumf!>Well I _thought_ it was funny
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oh well, I think perhaps I need to work on my comedy more...Josh


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kmactane
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Location: San Francisco, CA, USA
Member Since: 25th Apr 2001
Total posts: 97
Posted:Malcolm--No kidding about that bandwidth theft. I run a few web sites myself, and personally, I consider it completely acceptable to respond to such things by simply changing the grapic to read "This site is stealing bandwidth", or even worse things. ("We are morons" is another fairly mild one.)The fact that such things are doable at all is one of the reasons why I consider bandwidth theft not just malicious, but inept, crude and stupid as well. It puts you totally at the mercy of your supposed "victim".Sorry you're having to deal with this crap.

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Malcolm
Malcolm

HOP admin
Location: HOP
Member Since: 18th Nov 2003
Total posts: 996
Posted:Just found
http://home.southernct.edu/~nilayas1/new_page_2.htm
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that is copying stuff off the HOP site.
Seem to be using benders and charles pictures too

Goods news is I managed to get firetwirling.com url off the people linking with the pop up adverts.


"May your balls always burn"

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Cassandra
Cassandra

Froggie ... Ribbit !!!
Location: Back in Paris... for now !
Member Since: 8th Jun 2001
Total posts: 4224
Posted:ROFL... how can some people lack such imagination taht they cannot either come up witb something new or just use the existing amazing ressource we have here... that is pretty ridiculous...

YOU DA BEST, MAlcolm

so what is teh regulation on that one really ? does anyone know ?

shine on
Cassandra


"I want brown bread... no, that is diesel oil..."
"So I was raised in Europe, where History comes from ..."
"NON !!! La Plume de mon oncle n est pas Bingibangibungi !!!"

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Pele
Pele

the henna lady
Location: WNY, USA
Member Since: 15th Dec 2000
Total posts: 6193
Posted:Hey Malcolm, you can really get the owner of the last one in alot of toruble as, if you didn't notive, the address is actually linked to a school ( .edu ), which can actually get the school in trouble. So instead of the school facing charges the kid would get in serious trouble for using copyright material on school accounts, facing expulsion I bet would be the least of his/her worries.

Cass, it falls into the realm of Copyright Infringement Laws, which can come with alot of little side laws (plagerism, depending on what is taken..intellectual property, Malcolm could sue for lost wages if stuff from the store section was used...just a whole lot of stuff). These come with hefty fines and imprisonment in most areas.

Love you both!


Pele
Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir
"Oooh look! A pub!" -exclaimed after recovering from a stupid fall
"And for the decadence of art, nothing beats a roaring fire." -TMK

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Kaji
Kaji

Quantum Theorist
Location: Vansterdam
Member Since: 12th Dec 2002
Total posts: 564
Posted:hehe the site that started this thread is gone...
I wonder why???


In the 60's people took acid to make the world weird, now the world is weird and they take prozac to make it normal again.

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PK_
PK_

Lambretta Fanatic

Member Since: 20th Dec 2001
Total posts: 4991
Posted:one more dumb kid.

PK.

"To be an angel, one need not have wings.
In giving love there is an equal grace.
Nor need one seek the aura in the face,
As love unveils the beauty of all things."

*Francois Couperin.

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Aalathea
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Location: Massachusetts, US
Member Since: 30th Oct 2002
Total posts: 80
Posted:about the firetwirling.com site, what's the point of that? since its still hop just with a different address, what would someone stand to gain by doing that?

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Malcolm
Malcolm

HOP admin
Location: HOP
Member Since: 18th Nov 2003
Total posts: 996
Posted:quote:Originally posted by Leliel:
about the firetwirling.com site, what's the point of that? since its still hop just with a different address, what would someone stand to gain by doing that? They owned www.firetwirling.com and somehow embedded it with all of our code to appear as HOP. The only difference is they also embedded adverts at the top and bottom of the page.
They could then sell that space to advertisers.
It was horrible to see HOP with adverts all over it .
After a bit of work I got the url off them and removed the adverts.


Pele, Thanks for the school idea. I will contact them today.

Regards

Malcolm


"May your balls always burn"

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FireSpirit
FireSpirit

Classic 90's Fire Dancer... Poi, Staff, Doubles, and Breathing
Location: South Lake Tahoe
Member Since: 29th Mar 2001
Total posts: 743
Posted:Basterds!!!

I hate people who steel things(other than fire moves )!!

I will always be back to this sight. Never stray.

~Fire Spirit


FIRE IS ALIVE!
IT LIVES AND BREATHS!
IT CONSUMES, AND DISTROYS!
BUT WE CONTROL IT,
AND DANCE WITH FIRE!!

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UCOF
UCOF

Carpal \'Tunnel

Member Since: 17th Apr 2002
Total posts: 15414
Posted:big up yourself frost....nuff respec'!

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fluffy napalm fairy
fluffy napalm fairy

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Brum / Dorset / Fairy Land
Member Since: 12th Dec 2001
Total posts: 3638
Posted:so is firetwirling.com now the proper HoP site? hmmmmm........sorry for being computer illiterate/technologically challenged......

Geologists do it in the dirt................ spank

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Malcolm
Malcolm

HOP admin
Location: HOP
Member Since: 18th Nov 2003
Total posts: 996
Posted:quote:Originally posted by fluffy napalm fairy:
so is firetwirling.com now the proper HoP site? www.homeofpoi.com is the proper site. If you come here by another url (eg www.firetwirling.com ) it will change to www.homeofpoi.com after you press some links.

[ 25. February 2003, 08:22: Message edited by: Malcolm ]


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