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SuchGOLD Member
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I think txtspk is a knife in the side of society. I hold people that can speak correctly, as well as write, in a much higher esteem. Improper spelling is alright in my books, but I look at people that constantly use shorthand in speech and writing as idiots. Language is something common to everyone, and when you dismantle it into jibberish I feel you take another step away from a cultured/civilized society.

I know that seems harsh, but it's my personal opinion; not to say I think those people are idiots right off the bat, some of them have something intelligent to say, but for the most part I almost never see anything worth reading in lolz-world.

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astonSILVER Member
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I have found that I am starting to talk like I type. Which means that I do not use contractions like "don't" or "you're" in favour of two words. It sometimes leads to even more mangled sentences when expanding wouldn't or similar. Can not think of an example offhand.

On the gripping hand, I am comfortable with leaving out words (like "I" in the last sentence above). Also, I do use "lol" and similar, but they have not quite crept into my speech.

I very much doubt that my overall intelligence is affected by me using an abbreviation like that though.

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SuchGOLD Member
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Yeah, but you're not growing up around it either. What about all the kids in high school or elementary school that get that garbage infused into them...

Those are the people I think may turn retarded.

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newgabeSILVER Member
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My daughter, self say 'lol' in situations where we don't REALLY Laugh out loud, but are a wryly amused, enough to smile or smile inside. Or to express irony or even schadenfreude. There isn't a handy expression (or what the Victorians would have called an ejaculation) for that one really.

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MynciBRONZE Member
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I find the problem with txtspk is education, is there no chance that kids using text speak through out the day on phones in the evenings, weekends, summer holidays will forget how to spell properly? non use of memory can result in loss.

I agree some abbreviations help and are very useful along with acronyms (although www. taking longer to say than world wide web always makes me giggle) but one of my Ex-girlfirends 15 year old sister used text speak so continuously it became habit. she was getting bad grasdes at school because her spelling had become atrocious, she did NOT have dyslexia they tested her 3 times and she admitted she was just used to it.

I know this may be taken badly but dyslexia rates are increasing and there seems to be a large difference in dyslexia rates from country to country (I'm talking western not developing) some say its because of how language structures differ so some languages are harder for dyslexics to understand Artical on dyslexia rates I'm not using that as proof mind, but the question arises could it be countries with increased levels of textspeak because if dyslexia was neurological and based on language wouldn't dyslexics do well at other languages in school? I thought the letters wobbled in the page for them? I read somewhere that china has 5% dyslexia rate compared to more than double that in UK and USA does anyone know if the chinese use a lot of text speak?

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MikeGinnyGOLD Member
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*wanders in, dodges a few flaming arrows, knives, punches, and kicks*

I think I'll just quote my High School English teacher (yes, they do teach English in the U.S.)

"U mite bee the smartist pursen in the werld, butt if yoo cant speel evreewun wil think yoo r dum."

(Edit for the benefit of our non-native English-speakers) "You might be the smartest person in the world, but if you can't spell, everyone will think you are dumb."
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MynciBRONZE Member
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also L8 = late in english but Laugh in german (Lacht) on a global scale it can be ambiguous especially on online forums

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newgabeSILVER Member
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Chinese text speak? I doubt it. Chinese uses pictograms which represent a whole word.

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hamamelisBRONZE Member
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Originally Posted By: Mynciif dyslexia was neurological and based on language wouldn't dyslexics do well at other languages in school? I thought the letters wobbled in the page for them?

I remember my school German teacher saying people with dyslexia tended to have less trouble with the German language, than with English as the spelling is more logical, making it easier to memorise the rules..

He did tell me this because he thought I *was* dyslexic, which is possibly where my spelling twitchyness comes from.

Incidently, I have some good friends who are both dyslexic and way smarter than me; anyone here who is dyslexic, please don't take the above comment as an insult smile

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SuchGOLD Member
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Location: Right Here, USA


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Bwahahahaha, you're all seeing the light.

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SeyeSILVER Member
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Location: Manchester, UK


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Originally Posted By: MynciI read somewhere that china has 5% dyslexia rate compared to more than double that in UK and USA does anyone know if the chinese use a lot of text speak?
You could probably explain that by differences in detection rates. I would bet that the infrastructure for diagnosis in China does not cover the entire population.

I also imagine that the UK and USA detetion rates include a number of false positives. Any testing always will. I wouldn't like to guess at this number but I think its probably quite small.

I'm actually reaing a book at the moment called "Proust and The Squid" by Maryanne Wolf who holds the titles: Director, Center for Reading and Language Research & Professor of Child Development at Tufts University.
As a result I'm liking conversations about script, language and asociated disorders at the moment.

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