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Fine_Rabid_Dog


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Posted:So, we've got the "war in iraq". There's even "game console wars".

Now there's search engine stuff going down.

Watching TV the other day, an obscure advert came on with a bloke holding a bit of cardborad, asking me to "join the revolution" or something of that nature, then displaying a link: www.ask.com

To my dissapointment, the link takes you to the lame "Ask Jeeves" website, a pretty crappy search engine, IMHO.

Below the search bar, is the text "__Join the revolution".

Clicking that, takes you here: http://www.information-revolution.org/

"Hey cool!" I say, "Free T-shirts!" (One is already in the post for me ubbangel )

But everything else is pretty dissapointing. Turns out its just an ad campaign disguised as an anti-google campaign.

Seriously, is nothing sacred?

Going on about how google is bad as "the one source", when all they're trying to do is swindle people into using their own search engine.

Pretty lame if you ask me...

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Asena
GOLD Member since Aug 2005

Asena

What a Bummer
Location: Shatfield, Hertfordshire

Total posts: 3224
Posted:Matty lovvvvves google.

End of.

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Rouge Dragon
BRONZE Member since Jul 2003

Rouge Dragon

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Location: without class distinction

Total posts: 13215
Posted:yep, ask jeeves is crap.

Google is the most popular cos its the best. I remember when i first got the internet, there was a multitude of search engines that people used. I think every one of my friends used a different one. But gradually google became more popular as we grew up and realised whatever random search engines with flashy colours we used didn't really cut it.

And i think the fact that its all just askjeeves which is behind it, makes it a marketing thing, rather than an anti-google thing.


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Asena
GOLD Member since Aug 2005

Asena

What a Bummer
Location: Shatfield, Hertfordshire

Total posts: 3224
Posted:Google changes it logo to match special days. Nothing can beat that... nothing. biggrin

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Gidg
BRONZE Member since Apr 2003

Gidg

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Location: Portland Oregon USA

Total posts: 8506
Posted:Oh the AG (Almighty Google) the best search engine that I've ever found. Second would be Dogpile, though I haven't used that one in years.

Growing old is mandatory; growing up is NOT.
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I'm normal ... it's everyone else that's crazy.

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Spanner
BRONZE Member since Feb 2003

Spanner

remembers when it was all fields round here
Location: in the works... somewhere...

Total posts: 2790
Posted: Written by: Fine_Rabid_Dog


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All I have to say is a big thanks to you because I got my free T-shirt in the post today ubblol hug cool


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Fine_Rabid_Dog


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Posted:Mine hasn't arrived yet frown

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[Nx?]
BRONZE Member since Nov 2001

[Nx?]

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Location: Europe,Scotland,Both

Total posts: 3749
Posted:all gone now

This is a post by tom, all spelling is deleberate
-><- Kallisti

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FireTom


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Total posts: 6650
Posted:Don't like Google so much, as "if you pay munny, you raise to the top, even if your website doesn't contain any information about the subject". And even if you have MOST valuable information about something, you stay on page 275 if you're not paying/ using all the little tricks.

But I still use it, lacking a feasible alternative.

Crap search engines - to me - are more annoying than imperialistic ones... shrug


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Glåss
DIAMOND Member since Nov 2001

Glåss

The Ministry of Manipulation
Location: Bristol

Total posts: 2523
Posted:Google....
When it started was brilliant.
But as it became more popular and added more adverts, the quality of the results became worse and worse.
I noticed a year of 2 ago that, now its actually a bit lame.

The first 3 answers from Google are adverts
and all the links on the left are adverts.
Which means that half the first results are based on paid for clicks, not whether its useful.

Try it, do tests on area's of the web you know well:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=contact+juggling&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
There are 19 links on the first page, and roughly 3/4 of them are fairly crap (well half are shops!)

For Image search Google is dreadful!
I would Try flickr.com
and for definitions, I often start with wikipedia
but almost always when I'm doing big searching I get my best stuff from other peoples link pages

OK, so here is your feasible alternative - Google without the adverts!
Its google how you remember it: Customize Google
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/743
or
http://www.customizegoogle.com/


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Fine_Rabid_Dog


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Posted:Just installed that Glass... its beautiful *sniff*

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Mr Majestik
SILVER Member since Mar 2004

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Location: home of the tiney toothy bear

Total posts: 4693
Posted:free t-shirts? where?

"but have you considered there is more to life than your eyelids?"

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Sym
BRONZE Member since Sep 2004

Sym

Geek-enviro-hippy priest
Location: Diss, Norfolk

Total posts: 1858
Posted:So all the adverts are marked as that, whereas those of us who were professional SEOs back in the old days knew that with other search engines they would include paid links in the 'normal' results and you would never know.

There was one point where SEOs were shocked because you couldn't pay for the top rank on keywords of your choice - it was a big change in the market.

I'm out of the business now, but I do know that:

1) Googles adverts aren't that bad, and it's clear what are and aren't adverts.

2) After the adverts I think it is the best search out there, in that: it's not Microsoft, and I've never really liked yahoo search or ways of doing business (like selling out to governments and grassing on innocent Chinese reporters when they didn't have to)

3) As someone who advertises on google, it is a great program and much better than the old skool ways of paying for rankings.

So all in all, I don't mind them.

If you want to have a go at google, do it for censoring the results in China or any number of other things.

As for that campaign: the adverts are rubbish as google doesn't control the internet or its content - no search engine does, and in some ways no one does. When I saw them on the tube I thought it was going to be about the 2 tier internet that is being pushed for by the likes of BT, or even the fact that the US wont give up DNS management to the UN, or even something about non-Roman alphabet domain names .

Those are issues that do affect the way the internet works and in some ways how it is 'controlled'. having a go at google for being popular isn't a battle I think it worth fighting.


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Rozi
SILVER Member since Jan 2002

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Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia

Total posts: 2996
Posted:For techy-geeky stuff I usually end up searching del.icio.us. I know it isn't the primary purpose of the site, but the results can be pretty accurate.

For general search I end up on google, or wikipedia. And for Academic articles I end up on University library catalogues or on google scholar.

I like google. It works well. Although it always pays to draw from a variety of sources, hence my use of different sites/services for different purposes.


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Fine_Rabid_Dog


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Posted:My tee arrived in the post this morning!

Yay!

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Del.icio.us looks scary! Doesn't have the uber user friendliness of google...


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Curly_Sue
SILVER Member since Nov 2006

Curly_Sue

laughter is the way to get through life
Location: Inverness

Total posts: 179
Posted:CAN'T BEAT GOOGLE.

P.S. I don't work for google....... Or do I? angel


I fell down a hill once, got up then fell down it again.

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