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mcpPLATINUM Member
Flying Water Muppet
5,276 posts
Location: Edin-borrow., United Kingdom

Posted:
Definative version here: Firestaff-Tutorials.co.uk

So you wanna learn double staff?

1) get two staffs to practise with. Possibly you aready have one, now you need two. Any bits of metal or wooden tube will do.

Double staffs? long or short or matchsticks? Throwing, spinning, contact or something completely different? The staffs you choose will depend on what type of manipulation you want to do. Light and short for throws and fast spinning, medium sized to try a bit of everything, or long and heavy to make contact easier.

Practise any pattern first with your 'bad' hand. Then with your good hand. If you're having trouble starting a pattern, start up your 'bad' hand first and then bring in your good hand. (then try it the otherway around.)

Learning with your bad hand first will help your dominant hand learn 'for free' as it were, because your brain transfers some of the learning over to the otherside of your body automatically. Win.

parallel

Spinning the staffs in the same direction, in parallel...

feuershow tutorial - Quicklink-ID: 1196
performerjin double staff video
mcp - doubles tutorial


butterfly

Spinning the staffs in the opposite direction.

feuershow tutorial - Quicklink-ID: 1159
feuershow tutorial - Quicklink-ID: 1178
performerjin double staff video
benders double's explainations
benders double's explainations
mcp - doubles tutorial


one beats

The staffs don't make full figure's of eight, but instead single circles on each side.

feuershow tutorial - Quicklink-ID: 1191
feuershow tutorial - turns Quicklink-ID: 1195
feuershow tutorial - Quicklink-ID: 1195
mcp - doubles tutorial


btb

Behind the Back stuff.

feuershow tutorial - waistwraps: Quicklink-ID: 3240
mcp - doubles tutorial


throws

Throwing one staff while spinning the other.

feuershow tutorial - Quicklink-ID: 3308
feuershow tutorial - Quicklink-ID: 1203
tomo's double baton video
Rubberheart Duo throwing videos
mcp - doubles tutorial


weaves

Weaving the staffs like you weave poi, arms crossing and uncrossing.

feuershow tutorial - parallel: Quicklink-ID: 3292
feuershow tutorial - 3bt: Quicklink-ID: 3289 then Quicklink-ID: 3290
mcp - doubles tutorial


isolations

isolating the staffs in relation to each other, ie making them act like one big long staff.

feuershow tutorial - parallel: Quicklink-ID: 1185
feuershow tutorial - butterfly: Quicklink-ID: 1249
mcp - doubles tutorial


translations

Switching ends of the staffs, or you might say, turning your hands around, while trying to keep the staffs uniformly distant.

feuershow tutorial - Quicklink-ID: 1187


flowers

Long arm spinning, known as flowers. (long arm = where the arm stays straight.)

feuershow tutorial - parallel: Quicklink-ID: 3282
feuershow tutorial - butterfly: Quicklink-ID: 1200
mcp - doubles tutorial


anti-spin

Anti-spin doubles: where the longarm circle is in the opposite direction to the direction of rotation of the staff.


feuershow tutorial - Quicklink-ID: 3287
feuershow tutorial - Quicklink-ID: 3288
mcp - doubles tutorial
imakokode anti-spin document
imakokode anti-spin video



References: (and further study)


www.geocities.jp/performerjin - JAPANESE
www.interq.or.jp - JAPANESE
www.spherculism.net - Check out the videos of mike in here.
www.spinferno.com
www.feuershow.de ENGLISH + GERMAN + SPANISH - loads of tutorials
mcp.tepookatoys.com - some tutorials on doubles.
antti.rubberheart.com - compulsive immense staff throwing guys.
imakokode.org ENGLISH + FRENCH - anti-spin document!


Quick cheeky plug: Doubles DVD Coming soon: doublestaff.firestaff.net
EDITED_BY: mcp (1224467569)

"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

strugzBRONZE Member
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3,964 posts
Location: Southampton - Possibly..., United Kingdom

Posted:
nope even producing such a fine doubles document doesnt help.....

i still hate you ...... biggrin

good work Meg hug

"...We don't stop playing because we get old, we get old because we stop playing......."

_Clare_BRONZE Member
Still wiggling
5,967 posts
Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland (UK)

Posted:
clap

Getting to the other side smile

Neon_ShaolinGOLD Member
hehe, 'Member' huhuh
6,120 posts
Location: Behind you. With Jam

Posted:
I taught someone doubles at Synergy... They've vowed never to touch poi again biggrin

I'll point them to this thread...

"I used to want to change the world, now I just wanna leave the room with a little dignity..." - Lotus Weinstock

SkattoGOLD Member
Walking on whims...
687 posts
Location: Eastbourne, UK

Posted:
Very cool smile
Still trying to master The Steve, Fishtails, Halo Roll, and the Conveyer Belt. tongue

I'll go onto double staff when I feel I am good enough with contact! Although I feel that I am going to be quite addicted to a single long contact staff for quite some time!

You're a big help to all us newbies out there. Nice tutorials on your website!

Skatto

"Fly like a mouse,
Run like a cushion,
Be the small bookcase."

For goodness sake, don't aggravate the otters!!!

MynciBRONZE Member
Macaque of all trades
8,738 posts
Location: wombling free..., United Kingdom

Posted:
Meg you are a genius... a bit odd wink but still a star This will be my viewing home for the coming summer, doubles here I come.

A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.

Sambo_FluxGOLD Member
Introverted
833 posts
Location: Norf London, United Kingdom

Posted:
 Written by: Neon_Shaolin


I taught someone doubles at Synergy... They've vowed never to touch poi again biggrin

I'll point them to this thread...



ubblol I vowed no such thing! But the fact that I'm even posting in an evil staff thread is telling, don't you think...

My Mind is a Ship
Emotions become the Waves
Soul is the Ocean

If a quizz is quizzical, what is a test?

Neon_ShaolinGOLD Member
hehe, 'Member' huhuh
6,120 posts
Location: Behind you. With Jam

Posted:
I was 100% sober Sambo... I KNOW what I heard...

There is hope for you yet me boy... devil

"I used to want to change the world, now I just wanna leave the room with a little dignity..." - Lotus Weinstock

Sambo_FluxGOLD Member
Introverted
833 posts
Location: Norf London, United Kingdom

Posted:
ubblol I wasn't sober... so I'm denying all knowledge of said vow! But I did get myself a staff, and I haven't been doing much poi since then... I've been mucking about with contact staff, I hurt all over now, but it's good biggrin

My Mind is a Ship
Emotions become the Waves
Soul is the Ocean

If a quizz is quizzical, what is a test?

Neon_ShaolinGOLD Member
hehe, 'Member' huhuh
6,120 posts
Location: Behind you. With Jam

Posted:
Pain is your friend...

You have a staff, now try it with two! biggrin

"I used to want to change the world, now I just wanna leave the room with a little dignity..." - Lotus Weinstock

CaffeinatedKatieGOLD Member
Teacher, Dancer, Artist, and General Smartass
149 posts
Location: Portland, OR, USA

Posted:
Bless you. This is what I've been waiting for. I'm so excited I'll finally learn something. Stabbing around on my own hasn't gotten me very far.
mcpPLATINUM Member
Flying Water Muppet
5,276 posts
Location: Edin-borrow., United Kingdom

Posted:
BUMP!

Updated feuershow links to link directly to the tutorials, thanks to SAM updating his sites coding.

+ Quick cheeky plug: Doubles DVD Coming soon: doublestaff.firestaff.net

"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

LyeFate Keeps Telling Me To Stop
270 posts

Posted:
Originally Posted By: mcpBUMP!

Updated feuershow links to link directly to the tutorials, thanks to SAM updating his sites coding.

+ Quick cheeky plug: Doubles DVD Coming soon: doublestaff.firestaff.net

So did this ever happen or
mcpPLATINUM Member
Flying Water Muppet
5,276 posts
Location: Edin-borrow., United Kingdom

Posted:
Steve had his gall bladder out, that delayed things a bit

"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

EmmCeeeFFBRONZE Member
member
145 posts
Location: High Wycombe, England (UK)

Posted:
Damn those pesky gall bladders! *shakes fist furiously at his own in spite*

Do we have any more information about this delayed release?

If i had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isnt. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldnt be. And what it wouldnt be, it would. You see?

LyeFate Keeps Telling Me To Stop
270 posts

Posted:
I think it's funny that the contact staff unite logo is someone tightly gripping the staff.
LyeFate Keeps Telling Me To Stop
270 posts

Posted:
Also I was wondering that over a year ago and this got bumped on the day I actually made double staff. Soon I will spin them.
LyeFate Keeps Telling Me To Stop
270 posts

Posted:
That feuershow website is amazing!
afriskaPLATINUM Member
member
29 posts
Location: Switzerland

Posted:
Great work!
ratramstranger
1 post

Posted:
Hello, this website really good.

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