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I'm not sure there was ever any doubt that the death penalty would be given... I still feel uneasy about it though. I really don't believe in the death penalty, but is it different in cases like this?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6117910.stm
This is the web page so far.
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DeleteI'd have much rather he rotted away in a cell somewhere...
The existance of flamethrowers says that someone, somewhere, at sometime said "I need to set that thing on fire, but it's too far away."
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I watched this story break at 3am last night...
A rushed execution, on the first day of a Muslim holiday...
And why did he have to be executed at all? Have any other presidents or leaders been executed for their crimes (most have died from old age!)?
I agree with many of the commentators on the news today... it seems that a chance of reconciliation between Sunnis and Shiites has been wasted...
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but i understand the fear of if he is still alive he might be some looming presence
or he could be like napolean and escape
i believe this holiday is supposed to be about forgiveness too-is that irony used in the proper sense
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And certainly no chance for escape...
But I think that by keeping him alive, the Iraqi government/US forces would have displayed some clemency, which would have served them much better... considering their current image out there.
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In a country that has public punishment in a place called "chop-chop square", hanging didn't seem fitting.
Many political leaders have been executed over the years, but the legals call it "assassination" instead. Though I know the beheadings and murders of kings and emperors is surely not being forgotten here Clare. He is not the first, nor the last. It is more forward now thanks to the media and the sentiments over such things have changed over the years (where executions used to be part of the local entertainment) thanks to the liberties of free thought and speech.
Jo, I actually agree. *shrug*
Saddam commanded the deaths of a disgusting amount of people of his own accord to serve his own purposes. He overestimated his own power to maintain that behaviour and has been punished accordingly for it. Only he can be held responsible for giving those commands and making sure they were followed through upon. I can hand you a gun, and whether you choose to use it or not is completely up to you and is your responsibility. In this day and age, unless you have a serious mental incapacity, there are no unwilling puppets that high up.
Thousands upon thousands despise Sadam. No, FRD, I don't think anyone made a martyr out of him. In order to be a martyr anymore you need to be a sacrfice of some virtue.
The political layout hasn't changed for hundreds of years. Just the toys, the geography and the players.
Had this have been a few hundred years ago, he would have lived and been heralded a mighty leader (ala Elisabeth, Henry, etc.). Times they are achangin' but self-serving politics never has and it won't.
If a mundane, non-politically involved person caused mass genocide, there would not be the same "keep him alive" sentiment I think. Rape one child and all hell breaks loose (and I've seen some of the people involved in this discussion react with violence to such things). Kill thousands in the guise of politics and live. The double standard is sickening.
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Faith
Nay, whatever comes one hour was sunlit and the most high gods may not make boast of any better thing than to have watched that hour as it passed
They were saying, "There was a daycare center there. Kill the *bleep*."
*shrug*
Pele
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I wonder if Justice will come to Bush for his crimes against humanity?
I've wondered about that myself. I wish that Germany (or the EU in general) would grow some backbone and arrest him the next time he sets foot on European soil for the kidnapping of EU/German citizens.
And The Hague would not look kindly on many of his actions.
Of course, it comes down to money, as do all things. The United States still remains a major economic power (you can debate as to how long it will be the largest, but it's going to be very big for a long time to come). It is also a major military power and that would risk invasion or other military action.
It's terribly unfortunate that he'll never be tried because it would rock the boat too much.
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I guess we would, but as a precaution, Mr. Bush implemented the ruling, that the US army would get in and use "appropriate force" to liberate any US-citizen that is trialled in Den Hague.. go figure why 
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i would have changed ***** to phallus, and claire to petey Petey
Rougie: but that's what I'm doing here
Arnwyn: what letting me adjust myself in your room?..don't you dare quote that on HoP...
NYC??
'Cause you know, he and Mike are so alike! Hey wait, wasn't there a thread about that? Herm.
Mike is right (yes, I said that Mike!
). Hell, I wish *we* could do some form of citizens arrest here to the same effect!Pele
Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir
"Oooh look! A pub!" -exclaimed after recovering from a stupid fall
"And for the decadence of art, nothing beats a roaring fire." -TMK
awareness has not fully get it's pawns on me Heck I have no idea how I was able to mix them up, pardon me Changing subjects: Have you now heard of ppl downloading the vid of Saddam getting hanged onto their cellphones?
"HangCast" 
I mean WTF!!!Is that what is finally about? Like in the Roman empire: Bread and Games? Who would want to watch this? Sickens me a bit...
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well, the kind of people who go to watch public executions, for a start. Yes, very dark ages, but they do exist.
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Rougie: but that's what I'm doing here
Arnwyn: what letting me adjust myself in your room?..don't you dare quote that on HoP...
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How can we stop the destruction of our communities, our culture, our identity and live with some hope in the Middle East? These are fundamental questions for us and are far more compelling than the technicalities of the rights and wrongs of Saddam's trial.
Why death penalty opponent finds relief in saddam's end
i would have changed ***** to phallus, and claire to petey Petey
Rougie: but that's what I'm doing here
Arnwyn: what letting me adjust myself in your room?..don't you dare quote that on HoP...
"Why do we kill ppl who killed ppl to prove that the killing of ppl is wrong?"
The question remains.
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