ravemannewbie
3 posts

Posted:
whaich do you prefer and for what reasons? i use both and i just

wanted your oppinions

thanx,
raveman

LavatwilightGOLD Member
old hand
834 posts
Location: Wellington somerset, UK


Posted:
ok so i use short sticks from time to time, and they are lovley, but staff has more flow to it and more having to find space to move in that baton, and for that it gets my vote smile

Drawings by chalk minds, strech between the stars

Kyle Mclean-
Contact without dance is like sex without wiggling.
A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film


wingmember
52 posts
Location: New Haven, CT


Posted:
I'm in love with both, I could never decide.
linda

strugzBRONZE Member
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3,964 posts
Location: Southampton - Possibly..., United Kingdom


Posted:
IMO

Staff is much harder, and has many more possibilities, its also IMO lends itslef to body flow and movement............. for people teching themself anyway, its much easier moving round a 5ft staff with some pattern, than moving round a stick less than 1m biggrin

Two staffs is where its at though wink

::still no staffy gremlin::

"...We don't stop playing because we get old, we get old because we stop playing......."


ado-pGOLD Member
Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland


Posted:
mmmm four staff contact...

well... a man can dream

smile

Love is the law.


Kyle McLeanBRONZE Member
Living it up
363 posts
Location: Brisbane/Berlin, Australia


Posted:
devil

Contact without dance is like sex without wiggling.
A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film


ado-pGOLD Member
Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland


Posted:
thought that might get your attention wink

just thinking about three is enought make my head explode.

i like doing contact with really short sticks. so i reckon i might like baton too.

must ring that baton teacher i met

smile

Love is the law.


UCOFSILVER Member
..lonely.
15,416 posts
Location: South Wales


Posted:
Written by: Strugz

Staff is much harder






Written by: Strugz

its much easier moving round a 5ft staff with some pattern, than moving round a stick less than 1m






Which is it then? wink



For the above reason (a baton being smaller), I reckon baton twirlerising is much harder as a smaller thing goes faster.

strugzBRONZE Member
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3,964 posts
Location: Southampton - Possibly..., United Kingdom


Posted:
I was waiting for someone to pickup on that - well done Mr UCOF, you passed the contradiction test wink

**staff is still harder / better and far more satisfying than baton**

tongue

**goes to practice reading what he wrote**

smile

"...We don't stop playing because we get old, we get old because we stop playing......."


minimaniacThe Ladiees Man
360 posts
Location: near swindon/ oxford


Posted:
i say baton's are nice but there is nothing better than spinning a nice staff and so i guess i will have to sway towards the staff.

big up contact staff!!!

I'm going to leave the army and run away to the circus

if not i will just become a MI5 agent !!!


FabergGOLD Member
veteran
1,459 posts
Location: Dublin, Ireland


Posted:
my twins are only about a meter

does that make them batons?

or staffons??

ubbrollsmile

My mind not only wanders, it sometimes leaves completely smile


UCOFSILVER Member
..lonely.
15,416 posts
Location: South Wales


Posted:
Faberge: I prefer the term: Baffs smile



I wonder what the opinions would be if you posted the same question on a baton twirling site?



wink

minimaniacThe Ladiees Man
360 posts
Location: near swindon/ oxford


Posted:
i reckon you would get the answer
"what are staffs?" and
"oh there to big to spin!"

I'm going to leave the army and run away to the circus

if not i will just become a MI5 agent !!!


Frederick the RecklessBRONZE Member
Troupe Leader and founder, Fire and Steel
241 posts
Location: Oregon, USA


Posted:
i actually am even on both counts. the baton lends itself better to speed and tight maneuvers, but the staff flows extremely well... i do blindfold with both, and find the staff better suited to this. however when it comes to combining dance and firebreathing, the baton is SO much better for breathing and continuing to flow. the baton requires more manual dexterity to make it look good, therefore i love the challenge. the staff is something that requires more body control, balance, and fluidity, and that is a welcome challenge too. if i truly had to choose between the two, i honestly could not.

Frederick the Reckless,
Troupe Leader,
Fire and Steel


Disc0annoying boy
160 posts
Location: Sweden


Posted:
i'd say staff.
i've never tried batons but i think staffs round 6ft is the most lovely thing to watch, and therefore that's the thing i'd like to learn really good.

but double fire-batons isn't a shame either.... biggrin

fire is just light and heat.
it's you friend!


colemanSILVER Member
big and good and broken
7,330 posts
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay, United Kingdom


Posted:
its not the size, its what you do with it that counts.

apparently.

personally, the "one styleness" of baton twirling means i very quickly get bored watching them.

obviously this could be my untrained eye not recognising the subtle differences in style but when it comes to sticks i like playing with the larger kind smile

need more wick on mine now though... devil


cole. x

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i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
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fluffy napalm fairyCarpal \'Tunnel
3,638 posts
Location: Brum / Dorset / Fairy Land


Posted:
i want to learn baton twirling.

I love my short sticks but I'm falling in love with my new big sticks too - rapidly!

ubblove

to watch - two big sticks biggrin

Geologists do it in the dirt................ spank


strugzBRONZE Member
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3,964 posts
Location: Southampton - Possibly..., United Kingdom


Posted:
2 big sticks glad to hear it wink

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fluffy napalm fairyCarpal \'Tunnel
3,638 posts
Location: Brum / Dorset / Fairy Land


Posted:
biggrin

except the hurt more....................... *oops*

Geologists do it in the dirt................ spank


PrayerFireAngelBRONZE Member
member
30 posts
Location: Merced, Ca, USA


Posted:
At the present I would say Staff. I am learning Staff with Susan Orr's Baton twirling videos. My best friend was making fun of the videos but I have learned a lot in the past few weeks. I am guessing that when you do the half or full throw & spin around it hurts more getting conked in the head with the staff. My head is still sore from the other day & I was afraid I had split my skull open. I also have a nasty bruise from an elbow roll gone wrong.

May All Your Prayers Be Heard...


Frederick the RecklessBRONZE Member
Troupe Leader and founder, Fire and Steel
241 posts
Location: Oregon, USA


Posted:
Written by: coleman


personally, the "one styleness" of baton twirling means i very quickly get bored watching them.





if the user has only one style, then yes they get boring quickly. i change it up quite a bit with all my fireprops, so that each performance set is different. this keeps the audience from getting hypnotized into a coma.

Frederick the Reckless,
Troupe Leader,
Fire and Steel


Bender_the_OffenderGOLD Member
still can't believe it's not butter
6,978 posts
Location: Melbourne, Australia


Posted:
i like small staves and i vote*

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NephrurusBRONZE Member
newbie
10 posts
Location: Penrith, NSW, Australia


Posted:
Double staff are the bizz-nass!

But then theres doubles contact.... it comes in a close second......

"If you light a man a fire he will be warm for the night. Set a man on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life!"


Klaymen180 posts
Location: Melbourne, Vic.


Posted:
I've never thought of my 1m double-staffs as batons, they're so frikkin' heavy because I made them from steel, they're heavier than most big staffs, and have just as much momentum because of this =).

I think of baton as those utterly light mini sticks that change direction super easily and can be thrown effortlessly etc.

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