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James_Hillyer
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Posted:I have been trying to find the name of a Japanese (I believe) weapon. It is like the standard Fire Poi, a long ball chain, say about 3/4 - 1 metre, but it has a 3-4 Inch blade on the end of it, and some fibres between the chain and the blade.
Trying to give you a picture, take your fire poi, grab one of those fluffy dusters, grab about 5-6 inches of it, stick it on the end of the chain, then go grab a knife and stick that on the end.

I once saw it on television, but cant remember what the name was. Can anyone help me with this?


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Posted:Might be a kyoketsu-shoge? Try doing a google search for that! But that has a blade with another blade curving out an angle from it.

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Posted:sounds like kusari gama

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Posted:Yeh, could be that! The first time I saw it used with fire was by Hatsumi-sensei of the Bujinclowns. Does the one end look like a sickle? An alternate spelling is kusari-gama. Of course, to be authentic, you will have to dress in a kabuki outfit and pretend you are a Ninja!!!

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musashii


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Posted:yep yep..first time I saw it was GymKata!! ubblol What are the Bujinclowns?

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Posted:That was such a hokey movie. The star in that was a former olympic-gymnast. He talked about opening Gymkata schools across the country. Whatever happened to him???
Bujinkan.(Bujinclowns) wink Hatsumi is a con man who claims to be the head of a school of Ninjutsu going back 3000 years or whatever. Although they've changed it, its no longer Ninjutsu, but Budo Taijutsu. Tenth Dan wasn't high enough, so he added another five degrees of black-belt. Was all very big in the 80's with the Ninja craze!


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adamrice


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Posted:It's kusari-gama (hyphen optional). Literally means "chain-sickle." Not to be confused with a popsicle.

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musashii

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Posted:sounds typical of all the ninjitsu nonsense, it's not even a real art, technically. Simply adaptations of koryu, sensationalized and fooling too many people in believing it's an individual school, separate from many classical japanese martial arts with roots and traditions just as deep. Adam, I don't know if you're still in tokyo, but enlighten us as to what a typical japanese citizen would say if you asked about a ninja, or where one could study to become one.

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Posted:they'd say, "what? cowboys are way cooler, pardner"
as far as i know "ninja" just means "samurai doing naughty un-bushido stuff with a cute mask on" ubblol brings up the image of the old school movie "red" ninjas versus the "white" ninjas

there's about two seconds of kusara kama in the matrix 2 fight scene at the merovingian's room biggrin guy spins and catches em pretty well but then goes in for a totally weak arse attack... what was he thinking? gotta try to get neo with a horizontal half wrap attack at least weavesmiley


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adamrice


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Posted:I couldn't say for sure, but I'm pretty confident that ninja in Japan have the same kitsch value that they have in the USA. There are probably some adolescent boys who get caught up in ninja-fever, and they're a good action-movie fixture, but that's about it. I wouldn't be surprised if 90% of the mystique surrounding ninja was concocted by Westerners who wouldn't know a ninja if they tripped over one. Ask a Japanese person "where can I study to become a ninja" and they'll laugh at you. The only references I've seen to ninja in Japan in recent history are in bad action flicks and cartoony stationery for children.

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James_Hillyer
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Posted:ok its almost like a kusari gama, cept it doesnt have a sickle on the end, its literally like a dagger, aka as you swing you would shank your opponent (CS talk hehe) or cut through their flesh with the swing.

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Posted:I heard a reference to that, once as this art was perhaps one precursor to poi. All I can say is that it is japanese, practised by royalty, and less than a century old, as far as I've heard confused

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Posted:What Thunder is describing sounds like a " rope dart," a Chinese martial-arts weapon.

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Posted:It does sound like rope dart, except for the cutting thru' flesh description. Hmmmm.....

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Posted:kusari-sama??

Q:What's the difference between the Great Highland Bagpipes and the Northumbrian Pipes?
A:The Great Highland Pipes burn longer.

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musashii

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Posted:and the chain was around 1 meter..Rope dart the rope starts out at around 14 feet eek

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James_Hillyer
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Posted:Adam your a genius. Thanks all

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c) Those who can't, Read It.
d) Those with ego's, Argue It.

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