laZy
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Location: Somerset...... England
Member Since: 28th Aug 2003
Total posts: 94
Posted:Kay,
Can anyone explain this move to me please.
laZy


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Mark P
Mark P

old hand
Location: Bath, England
Member Since: 26th Oct 2001
Total posts: 1031
Posted:Ok I have 2 possible explanations for you one is correct one is wrong but I have been told that both are the fountain before.

First is a weave turning into a recerse weave followed by immediately turning back to a forwards weave - with a beat of windmill inbetween.

Second is exactly the same but on the first turn, from forwards to reverse weave, there is a beat of windmill too.

Hope this helps people to view their opinions,

Mark p


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TheBovrilMonkey
TheBovrilMonkey

Liquid Cow
Location: High Wycombe, England
Member Since: 3rd Sep 2001
Total posts: 2629
Posted:Hmm, I have another variation still:

Turn from forwards weave to reverse weave but move the poi down close to the ground, then turn back to forwards weave (without the windmill bit), moving the poi up fairly high.

That's what I call the fountain anyway


But there's no sense crying over every mistake. You just keep on trying till you run out of cake.

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siliconslave
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Location: near guildford uk
Member Since: 18th Aug 2003
Total posts: 36
Posted:righty-o the funkey poi book i learnt it from told me to to something like
- do a non-turning weave turn from your right to your left:
a weave on the left of your body - (like do a normal weave and turn you feet 90deg to the right) then move it infrount of you till your doing a reverse weave on your right Makeing each end middle hight and middle bit as low as possilbe

-once your doing the backwards weave on the right of your body move it up into a windmill and then after one revolution move back to the weave on the left of your body.

- its pretty much mark's second surjestion i could draw i crappy little pic if you realy wanted

i was under the impression however that half the thing was having your body kinda facing forward so your doing it in a circle round you - but what do i know


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coleman
coleman

big and good and broken
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay
Member Since: 29th Aug 2002
Total posts: 7330
Posted:i would say start here.
then check out this video (20 seconds in - ignore the numbers as for some reason the beats are counted as the clubs pass 9 o'clock rather than at the bottom as usual).

as you can see from the other posts though, we all have our own preferred ideas of what a fountain is.
this discussion has been going on for a long time.

and to think i only changed my sig a couple of weeks ago...


"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
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Xtremely Flameable
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Location: Cairns, Queensland
Member Since: 23rd Apr 2003
Total posts: 95
Posted:I've been told and shown that it is forwards weave turning to backwards with the windmill beat in the middle of it. I've done this a few times and it looks great especially on fire.

When a man lies, he murders some part of the world.

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UCOF
UCOF

Carpal \'Tunnel

Member Since: 17th Apr 2002
Total posts: 15414
Posted:ive got a totally different one..

first move:
RH 1 circle in front

2nd move(at the same time)
LH 1 circle in front
RH 1 cirlce behind shoulder

3rd move(at the same time)
LH 1 circle behind shoulder
RH 1 circle behind right leg

4th move(at the same time)
LH 1 circle behind left leg
RH 1 circle in front

5th move:
Repeat

i prefer that one more..


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flid
flid

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Warwickshire
Member Since: 27th Aug 2002
Total posts: 3136
Posted:I heard its where you spin the poi at your sides, but underwater.

Seriously, wasn't there a long thread about this in moves a few months ago?


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UCOF
UCOF

Carpal \'Tunnel

Member Since: 17th Apr 2002
Total posts: 15414
Posted:yes...and this is its rival.

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coleman
coleman

big and good and broken
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay
Member Since: 29th Aug 2002
Total posts: 7330
Posted:quote:Originally posted by flid:
Seriously, wasn't there a long thread about this in moves a few months ago? that's pretty much been the case since the board began mate
go check my links up there and see how many fountain definitions you can find

then (for those who are still a little confused by what they find) notice that the oldest hop description (by diana) agrees with the one given by anna jillings and the gandini's...


"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
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laZy
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Location: Somerset...... England
Member Since: 28th Aug 2003
Total posts: 94
Posted:Thanks a lot for all your definitions. I found a different one at friechains.co.uk it sais it goes like this.
fwd weave
windmill
fwd weave
repeat.

Ah well I think i'll just learn the lot so when someone sais can you do it I will be able to say yes.
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frostypaw
Great balls of fire
Location: Tunbridge Wells, Kent
Member Since: 28th Jul 2003
Total posts: 643
Posted:The fountain is a move i found by accident so this might be a different perspective

it all starts from the non-turning weave turn

start weaving fowards, turn 180d left to reverse weave, turn 180d right to forwards... then do it again, but this time when you face the poi halfway through the turn (90d) stay there and keep doing the motion forwards and backwards so the 'turn cycle' is in front of you, the other cycles behind you

practise that like crazy

then do it at different heights - practise it near the ground with the poi just missing and as high as you can do it

the fountain falls naturally out of this action...

i always start with a few non-turning weave turns to get used to the motion

then do the one behind your right hand side at normal level, then the 'turn cycle' directly in front of you as low to the ground as possible, then the left hand side cycle at normal height

now normally you'd do the next cycle right in front of you to carry on with the non-turning weave-turn, but instead do it high in front of your left shoulder, as the poi each reach the top of their arc (where you'd normally carry on with the n-t weave-turn to your right) move each hand to exactly above your head and let each do a cycle behind you (they do this very naturally and easily), then when they come back in front continue with the non-turning weave turn at your right shoulder (turn-cycle in front of you), then back to the start with the normal height cycle behind your right hand side

oddly enough windmills on their own proved a lot harder than using the fountain to reach that point - the windmill motion is almost inevitable and follows naturally rather than feeling like a seperate move

that description only covers a clockwise forwards fountain... there are three other variants from that and i can only do one neatly starting left to right rather than right to left makes it anticlockwise and my hands knot at the top, theoretically they're all exactly the same pattern but this one can't do 'em yet!

(jon/ucof - i wanna see you give that description and do it... sounds completely alien to what i've been doing!)


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coleman
coleman

big and good and broken
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay
Member Since: 29th Aug 2002
Total posts: 7330
Posted:just being tidy

"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood

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