duvan


duvan

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Posted:hi folks out there

I was at my first juggling convention ever in waldmnchen , a town in bavaria and who was there ? robert heart

we had a nice time and I tested his spin bo's ..
Is there anyone who has some experience with them ? I think they are really nice but I just didn't have enough money to buy one ...
are they really so much better ?

staff rulz


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Glåss
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Glåss

The Ministry of Manipulation
Location: Bristol, United Kingdom

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Posted:

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Bender_the_Offender
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Bender_the_Offender

still can't believe it's not butter
Location: Melbourne, Australia

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Posted:oh dear.
what's a spin-bo look like?
are they expensive?
thanks for raising the topic - i know very little about this invention.


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Glåss
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Glåss

The Ministry of Manipulation
Location: Bristol, United Kingdom

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Posted:its a lot like stick wrapped in tape for decoration with a black tennis ball on each end. and a grip in the middle.

quotes:
"its specifically designed to make YOU a better spinner"

"always toss with the palm down"

"I normally sell these for 80 euro
but to you this week only 50 euro."


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Bender_the_Offender
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Location: Melbourne, Australia

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Posted:so i take it it's a pricey practice staff? i can't talk for others, but i think i'll stick with my fire stave for the time being.

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Posted:In case anyone missed glass's irony spin bo's are poo. I know we're not being actively mean but they are seriously the worst sticks I've ever had the displeasure of holding. I got to touch one twice and actually shuddred it's really fowl.

It's a dowel wrapped in so much cushion it becomes squidgy like a small child then add some rainbow stuff that's CELLOTAPEd on and some balls spray painted black. That is a spin bow, it is Shit (sorry for swearing but that's the only word to adequalty describe these sticks)


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Charles
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Charles

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Posted:I have coninually wondered why there are no pictures of this revolutionary new tool on his website.

A stick is a stick, in my opinion.

The only properties that I would pay for in a staff is resistance to bending and the ability to easily and cleanly break down into more than one piece for transport.

If you want padding, you can put padding on yourself...from what the others have said, you can ever spray paint the tennis balls yourself too!


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duvan


duvan

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Location: germany

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Posted:thx for your replies

I had a strange conservation with him and I said that I don't like them because they are too light - he said :

"yeah they are light but only in that way you are able to train muuuuuch more and getting muuuuuch better .."

then I tried some contact stuff and the feeling for that staffs was incredible ... I had no control over them ... told him that they are not good for contacts ... his answer :

" I showed them some contact staffers on the EJC and they all said that is the best staff they ever had in their hands "

because of the fact that I'm a beginner and that he was the first staffer I ever met and that this was my first juggling convention I really wondered if I should believe him . but the love for my good old staff was too big as that I could really love his spin bo's .

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Dom
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Dom

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Posted:His Spin-bo's were ok. The full length padding is fair enough if, like Robert, you're going to be trying to spin at speeds in excess of 100mph. His style is only one style of many, and most people I know don't spin like him.

I don't think one particular design of staff is going to be the best for everyone - weight, length and grip are all personal choices. And 50 euros is a much for a practice staff, let alone 80 euros! Especially since Mushy Pea Steve sells beautiful fire staves for a lot less and there's quite a bit of kevlar on them.

Finally, considering the fact that I think I knew the only contact staffers at the EJC I find it highly unlikely that one of them said it was the best staff they'd ever seen. Espically as Glass worships his custom staff Steve made him and you'll have to prise bluecat's scratty staves from his cold head hands


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Bender_the_Offender
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Posted:Dom, I see that you have constructed your own contact staff. Obi-wan has taught you well.

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From the Ashes of a Ninja Rise THE HIPS OF RAGE
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Posted:I'm sorry Dom but I'm going to have to re-iterate as a guy that does lots of contact staff that they suck ALOT like more that the new laura croft movie. And unless there were some contact stick people hiding under a shrub at the european, which is possible, no one said they were the best sticks they'd ever held. Quite a bit the opposite actually

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bluecat


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Posted:quote:Originally posted by duvan:


then I tried some contact stuff and the feeling for that staffs was incredible ... I had no control over them ... told him that they are not good for contacts ... his answer :

" I showed them some contact staffers on the EJC and they all said that is the best staff they ever had in their hands "
almost enough to make me phone that man and give him(another)piece of my mind


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Knoxious
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Posted:oh dear...at Rotterdam he was pushing his new "Juggling Staff"....that too was crap.

But did anyone see his glow staff? No flashing/programmable craziness, but some funky colours all over it...and when it's spun, as the stick turns in your hand, the colours "change".

I thought it wasn't bad really....I was drunk tho


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Dom
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Dom

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Posted:Actually his glostaff seemed to be a pretty good. Probably not as hardy as other glo staves, but multi coloured and did the job well enough.

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Posted:quote:Originally posted by Glss:
quotes:
"its specifically designed to make YOU a better spinner"

"always toss with the palm down"
Oh my god, I HAVE to meet this guy. What planet is he on?!



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Charles
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Charles

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Posted:Before you meet him, have a trawl through his website, if you haven't already.

Here's a thread linking to and discussing it at length...

The non-actively mean robert heart experience


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TheApprovingNinja


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From the Ashes of a Ninja Rise THE HIPS OF RAGE
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Posted:Yes his sticks did glow but he wouldn't let anyone else touch them so I can't say much else.

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Posted:Thanks Charles, had a look. Blimey.

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Posted:quote:Originally posted by Dm:

Espically as Glass worships his custom staff Steve made him and you'll have to prise bluecat's scratty staves from his cold head hands oi.


but incidentally... what are 'cold head hands'?


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DJ Dantana
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Posted:cold DEAD hands....

seriousely, I like the idea of tenis balls on the ends for experimental spinning.... so as to put an eye out....


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Charles
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Charles

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Posted:I don't get the tennis ball idea at all?

Surely makeing pseudo-wicks like sponge covered in denim or other material would have the stick behave more like a fire staff, and still be pretty 'safe' from a thwacking point of view?



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From the Ashes of a Ninja Rise THE HIPS OF RAGE
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Posted:you'd think that but the you wouldn't be thinking THE ROBERT HEART WAY. The best bit is that he has spray painted them black so as to remove any excitingness from them and they're attached to the stick with electrical tape. I want to buy one just to put up in my workshop as an example of how not to make a stick

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Posted:Personally I do pad the ends of my very heavy practice staff, mainly so I don't break things when I screw up. For me a coupla pair of old socks wrapped around the end like wicks, and duct taped into place works just peachy:)

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