Girl From Marsmember
168 posts
Location: Liverpool, NY, USA


Posted:
i really havent' been spending as much time twirling as i use to. and now that i've started doing it more often again i find myself stuck doing my moves over and over. i have a tendency to do one move a couple times then transition and do the next a couple times then transition to the next and on and on and on. i'm having a hard time moving in and out of moves without having to repeat a move a couple times. any suggestions on how to break this?

the music feeds my soul that glows and grows with every spin i take.


CharlesBRONZE Member
Corporate Circus Arts Entertainer
3,989 posts
Location: Auckland, New Zealand


Posted:
That's a common issue for a number of the performance arts.

some suggestions to help break out might be

1. Write down sequences of moves, with no repitions, say about 6 or 7, and pin it up somehwere to read while you spin.

2. Instead of completing each move by rote, as your body is good at already, try to transition out of the move before it's finished, say 1/3 1/2 or 3/4 of the way through the move.

3. Do stupid silly things, try to (gently) wrap around individual fingers, grab the string halways down with opposing hands, try a mouth wrap, grabbing the string and then doing poi with one hand and one with your mouth etc etc. The sillier the new thing, the faster it is to reak out of established patterns.

4. Get a non-poi friend to watch and suggest new things.

5. Shorten the strings.

6. Lengthen the strings.

At the end of the day, it's all about changing the comofrt zone your physical memory has settled into, and let the conscious mind start dictating what to do again.

hope this helps...

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Bender_the_OffenderGOLD Member
still can't believe it's not butter
6,978 posts
Location: Melbourne, Australia


Posted:
creativity is the fire that burns down the barn of monotony.

Many times, awesome, inspiring music is the matchstick that lights said fire.

no barn animals were hurt in the rating of this post.

(now sing after me, zum zum zum, capoeira mata um!)

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NYCNYC
9,232 posts
Location: NYC, NY, USA


Posted:
My first suggestion is obvious. Don't let yourself. I sometimes make rules when I practice to keep myself fresh like "I'm not doing any butterflies" or "I'm doing only butterflies" etc...

My second suggestion is to drive down to New York City and play with us. Every time you repeat a move I'll beat you with a stick.

Trust me, you will learn.

Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]


Kinudin (Soul Fyre)veteran
1,325 posts
Location: San Diego, California, USA


Posted:
NYC, it's obvious you're a high school teacher

Bender_the_OffenderGOLD Member
still can't believe it's not butter
6,978 posts
Location: Melbourne, Australia


Posted:
yeah, it's because he's left handed.
:scampers:

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Kinudin (Soul Fyre)veteran
1,325 posts
Location: San Diego, California, USA


Posted:
I'm left handed

Bender_the_OffenderGOLD Member
still can't believe it's not butter
6,978 posts
Location: Melbourne, Australia


Posted:
um, but like they say, the rule does not apply to people whose name starts with 'k', silly!

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Girl From Marsmember
168 posts
Location: Liverpool, NY, USA


Posted:
thanks a ton guys. and nyc i would love to come down and meet you all. as for the beating with a stick, it think i'll pass . i will be sure to take your advice and try some new things. i'll update you at a later time. love to all

the music feeds my soul that glows and grows with every spin i take.


GlåssDIAMOND Member
The Ministry of Manipulation
2,523 posts
Location: Bristol, United Kingdom


Posted:
wow.
Its so cool, all the old names are comming back out of the woodwork.
Hiya Girl for mars.

Have you tried putting on headphones and loosing yourself in poi??
Does it for me, irght up until I smack myself in the nads, which at least is a different move.

yea, and I'm left handed too.

Drew
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Girl From Marsmember
168 posts
Location: Liverpool, NY, USA


Posted:
that's the only way i love to spin, i have a hard time doing it without music to guide me. i very good and just closing my eyes and going on and on and on without hitting myself

the music feeds my soul that glows and grows with every spin i take.


GlåssDIAMOND Member
The Ministry of Manipulation
2,523 posts
Location: Bristol, United Kingdom


Posted:
Ok, GFM, I see that its a real problem this one.
1 spin and testicle pain later.

I looked out at the stars while I was spinning and I got these answers to the stuck in a rut problem.

If you're slightly one sided then spin everything in your goofy direction.
If you usually play with one set of poi. then borrow some with completely different character, If you usually play a certain length, play the others, like short/or extremely long.
try to Spin with bad time, just for fun, so that the poi are not parallel, or are not opposite.
work on 2 to 1 and 3 to 2 rhythms, (but I think you might have done aready) and not just in simple at the side circles, but in moves also.

but my best suggestion. is do contact staff.

Glass
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Whiffle Squeekaddict
416 posts
Location: Hartford, CT USA


Posted:
heh, try contact staff for a while, and never again will you complain about old familiar moves...

usually after i try, i get so frustrated that the staff wont stick to my body like it does to Nix's in COL3, that i cant wait to pick up my poi again...

:walks off wondering why the staff sticks to Nix:

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TheBovrilMonkeySILVER Member
Liquid Cow
2,629 posts
Location: High Wycombe, England


Posted:
I think it's an intricate system of subdermal magnets

But there's no sense crying over every mistake. You just keep on trying till you run out of cake.


CantusSILVER Member
Tantamount to fatuity
15,965 posts
Location: Down the road, United Kingdom


Posted:
You're on the wrong board Rory. This is the poi one. Not the geeky science one.

That's what you get for net surfing with your eyes shut.

"I'll carry this....It's harder to spill a hat" - Chellybean
"...like a rabbit caught in a lighthouse?" - Chellybean


CantusSILVER Member
Tantamount to fatuity
15,965 posts
Location: Down the road, United Kingdom


Posted:
On topic though (before you start Charles I do do it sometimes) I've been stuck in a poi rut for about 3 months and have finally cracked it by thinking outside the box. Instead of trying to do specific moves etc I've just been letting it all flow and see what comes of it.

Going to London and seeing some of the most awesome spinners in the country (including my lady love) also helped quite a bit.

I'm just rambling with this post but i hope it helps a little.

"I'll carry this....It's harder to spill a hat" - Chellybean
"...like a rabbit caught in a lighthouse?" - Chellybean


MrConfusedBRONZE Member
addict
529 posts
Location: I wish I knew, United Kingdom


Posted:
Kind of what C@ntus said, but try NOT to think of doing individual moves. Instead, think of spinning within a family of moves (of which there are all of two - same direction and opposite direction). As soon as you feel yourself repeating a move, change to something different in the same family. Don't think too much about where they're going.
It's helpful to be able to transition from any move to any other within the same family.

J

If you're not confused, you're not thinking about things hard enough.


CantusSILVER Member
Tantamount to fatuity
15,965 posts
Location: Down the road, United Kingdom


Posted:
I said not doing specific things.

"I'll carry this....It's harder to spill a hat" - Chellybean
"...like a rabbit caught in a lighthouse?" - Chellybean


MrConfusedBRONZE Member
addict
529 posts
Location: I wish I knew, United Kingdom


Posted:
Shit, sounded alright in my head. Sorry, I was just trying to reiterate your point. Damn this inability to communicate emphasis in text form!!

J

If you're not confused, you're not thinking about things hard enough.


Locoflymember
62 posts
Location: New York (its not as cool as you think)


Posted:
when i get stuck doing the same things i try to vary them by maybe swinging my arms out further, or one close and one far, crouching, seeing how low i can get horizontal moves to the ground, transitioning from low to high moves, or seperating moves(i.e. corkscrew but do two circles with each hand on top or bottom and vice versa.) try right, left, right, right, left, right, left, left, etc...or when weaving do two circles on each side with each hand. does any of that make any sense?

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RicheeBRONZE Member
HOP librarian
1,841 posts
Location: Prague, Czech. Republic


Posted:
Locofly-
When weaving do two circles on each side you may do it forward or backward or do one bigger and one small circle(change the beat) or do the same behind your back or change the rhythm or .....

POI THEO(R)IST


GlåssDIAMOND Member
The Ministry of Manipulation
2,523 posts
Location: Bristol, United Kingdom


Posted:
Quote
"...thinking outside the box."

Cantus when did you start spouting management bullsh t.

what next, you gonna show up round here in smart shoes and a flashy suit*.

*You know like aerotech would make.

LOL

Glass

DomBRONZE Member
Carpal \'Tunnel
3,009 posts
Location: Bristol, UK


Posted:
The problem is 'moves'. Like they say above, don't do them. Do random stuff, put the poi everywhere. Last couple of weeks I've been doing random stuff with each hand, not too related, and playing with different speeds in each hand. Just play with different ideas.

Mr Glass, sometime soon shall we do some poi filming? I know you're heavily into that stick thing, but I've got time on me hands and I can actually do poi!

GlåssDIAMOND Member
The Ministry of Manipulation
2,523 posts
Location: Bristol, United Kingdom


Posted:
deal, get your best suit out. I'll walm up the super-8
just pesterme to do it and I'll bunk off work.
The boss wont mind, he likes poi

+ I want to tie my new video camera to the end of a poi, to get a pois eye view
a whole new poispective on tricks.
might be a but dizzy though

sorry mars, totally off topic

glass
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DomBRONZE Member
Carpal \'Tunnel
3,009 posts
Location: Bristol, UK


Posted:
now, where did I put that shiny purple shirt and purple velvet waistcoat...

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