MikeGinnyMikeGinnyGOLD Member
HOP Mad Doctor
13,923 posts
Location: San Francisco, CA, USA


Posted:
So I nailed what I call a "low windmill." It's just like a windmill, but your hands are at your side. You can also do a "middle windmill" with your hands at your shoulders.

Anyone know if these moves are named?

-Mike

Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella



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Locoflymember
62 posts
Location: New York (its not as cool as you think)


Posted:
yup. bill and frank.

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NYCNYCNYC
9,232 posts
Location: NYC, NY, USA


Posted:
Er... describe it more. Is it just an off beat change of direction? Does your hand go above your head at all? I think I know what you're talking about. Though usually I'm clueless.

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Paddyback from the dead...sort of
884 posts
Location: 4341'N 7938'W


Posted:
I think it's this: the poi are going from the front to the back of the body on each beat, in the same direction and in split time, as per a normal windmill. except with this, your hands are not over your head but around the thigh area.

is that it Mike?

NYCNYCNYC
9,232 posts
Location: NYC, NY, USA


Posted:
Like a split time, hip level, follow the sun? I think I do that.

[Kinda like a lime flavored crabcake but harder to dance to? Sort of like summer and discomfort in a flakey tortia crust? Or more like a 3D movie that gives away the ending at the beginning? Yeah, I'm pretty sure I do that.]

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StoneGOLD Member
Stream Entrant
2,829 posts
Location: Melbourne, Australia


Posted:
LOL I'm gunna get in trouble for this. I reckon you probably stumbled across a two-beat fountain.

When I get time, probably on the w/e, I do a bit on 2, 3 and 5 beat-fountains in the club/torch thread in Other Toys. K.

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colemancolemanSILVER Member
big and good and broken
7,330 posts
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay, United Kingdom


Posted:
i've been doing a kind of "low windmill" recently.

its done leaning forwards, spinning the poi in front of your knees - the poi spin outside your arms and then between your arms and your body in the 2 beat fashion of old. i haven't attempted this with fire as i am a chicken and scared of burning off my armpit hairs.

i like to call the move "this one". in fact, most of my moves are called that...

"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood


MikeGinnyMikeGinnyGOLD Member
HOP Mad Doctor
13,923 posts
Location: San Francisco, CA, USA


Posted:
quote:
Originally posted by Paddy:
I think it's this: the poi are going from the front to the back of the body on each beat, in the same direction and in split time, as per a normal windmill. except with this, your hands are not over your head but around the thigh area.

is that it Mike?

Yup. Just like that.

-Mike

Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella



A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura


Paddyback from the dead...sort of
884 posts
Location: 4341'N 7938'W


Posted:
cool. I do it too...I liek to call it "this one" as well.

StoneGOLD Member
Stream Entrant
2,829 posts
Location: Melbourne, Australia


Posted:
In some circles, windmills are also known as follow-circles

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Bram....member
1,551 posts
Location: the arms of the Ganja Goddess


Posted:
hmmmmm... I either call moves by thier names or if I screw up and hit myself, it becomes my dubious specialty moved called, "ow, fuck"

You. Its whats for dinner!

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NYCNYCNYC
9,232 posts
Location: NYC, NY, USA


Posted:
It honestly sounds like an off beat, low turn. Except you're doing it at 90 degrees rather than turning your body each time.

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Paddyback from the dead...sort of
884 posts
Location: 4341'N 7938'W


Posted:
your explanation makes sense too NYC...I think the two would be equivalent. there's always more than one way to describe a move.

NYCNYCNYC
9,232 posts
Location: NYC, NY, USA


Posted:
Upon rereading my post it did sound like I was disagreeing. But I wasn't. I was just trying to confirm that I knew what I was talking about. I probably should have put a few question marks in there... My bad.

I don't think it is a two beat fountain though, as that would require turning and alternating forwards and backwards figure 8s.

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StoneGOLD Member
Stream Entrant
2,829 posts
Location: Melbourne, Australia


Posted:
Too true NYC. I should have said it seems like the start of a 2-beat fountain. Hips, shoulder, then overhead, down the other side and so on.

Anyhow Mike to answer your original question Anyone know if these moves are named?

The moves you describe appear to be 2-beat follow circles, which are club moves. They aren’t discussed much here because most of the poi moves start with the 3-beat weave. With clubs you start with the 2-beat moves and work up from there.

I’m loath to bring up the club names in the poi section because they confuse everyone and I’m not sure that I know them that well anyhows.

The one at the hips is probably called a hip grinder or hip coffee grinder. There are a sequence of these and you go btb and everything, building up into other combinations. The one at the shoulder could be a tangle, but I cant remember if it is a 2-beat move or not.

I like the 2-beat stuff, even though they are considered old fashioned. So, I suggest if you really want to learn more about these great building moves then you could look up one of the club swinging books, like the Jillings or Schatz book. Also keep an eye on the club thread.

coleman, try a search on the buzzsaw or burn the nose (btn).

Hope this helps

[ 11 October 2002, 10:36: Message edited by: Stone ]

If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh


MikeGinnyMikeGinnyGOLD Member
HOP Mad Doctor
13,923 posts
Location: San Francisco, CA, USA


Posted:
Well, fine, if it's not named, I christen it the..

uh...

Gee, this is like coming across wet concrete...

um... a-HA!

The two-beat GRUBLEFLGGER!

-Mike

Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella



A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura


pozeeBRONZE Member
old hand
887 posts
Location: san diego, USA


Posted:
looks really cool, in my opinion, to bring it up and down. 1 beat top right 1 top left, 1 bottom right, one bottom left. or you can do it in reverse o fcourse. but for picture purposes, that is one of my favorites because you get like a four leaf clover effect around your body.

and with glowsticks it is a great one to do a color switch with really quick and really blow some minds. kudos...

anyone got a light?


StoneGOLD Member
Stream Entrant
2,829 posts
Location: Melbourne, Australia


Posted:
I know that them, think I do em sometimes from top right to bottom left etc. But, four-leaf clover sounds good.

I know, I seem to have this thing with fountains

If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh


NYCNYCNYC
9,232 posts
Location: NYC, NY, USA


Posted:
True Poz,

In New York we call the same motion in butterfly "The Jammy." It looks cool when done by hot chicks or muscley guys, sometimes I do it too.

Probably would look cool with a quick arm wrap to alternate between the two (Mikes "weave" version and Poz "butterfly" version)

With the butterfly variant, it's: Top left front, bottom left front, bottom right behind, top right behind (with the left poi) and "Right" everything with the Right poi.

Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
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RicheeRicheeBRONZE Member
HOP librarian
1,841 posts
Location: Prague, Czech. Republic


Posted:
Is it new??

Start wit swinging backward then throw out both poi, turn body 180 around then catch them , swing forward and continue.....?

POI THEO(R)IST


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