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Josette
BRONZE Member since Mar 2017

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Location: Saint-Mary's Bay, Nova Scotia

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Posted:I believe that if I am to be a true poi fire spinner, I need to learn the language. Could anybody out there give a few pointers and history on your New Zealand culture? Is poi part of growing up in New Zealand?

Extremely excited to learn more....


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Valura
SILVER Member since Apr 2002

Valura

Mumma Hen
Location: Brisbane, Australia

Total posts: 6391
Posted:You dont need to learn the language to be a true spinner hunny... You just have to have the hunger to learn and the dedication to make it happen...
Poi AND staff are part of growing up in NZ, although the staff is called the taiaha and is spun in a very different manner.
Poi is generally used during Waiata a Ringa (dancing with hands) and is a preformance art and is not as showy as our form of poi but is also lovely to watch, as it all in unision and all the girls in the kapahaka (maori preformance group) keep the beat with their feet... loads of hip swinging and the like...
Girls are the only ones that use Poi... boys are the only ones that use the taiaha.The taiaha is used during a maori welcome on to the ground of the meeting house in a challanging way...
I learnt Poi at the age of five years old and have expanded on that as I grew. I knew the very basics of poi and that has helped me grow with the art... If you have any questions dont hesitate to ask me Ill see what I can do to help you out e hoa (my friend)

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TAJ "boat mummy." VALURA "yes sweetie you went on a boat, was daddy there with you?" TAJ "no, but monkey on boat" VALURA "well then sweetie, Daddy WAS there with you"

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Eera


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Location: In a test pit, Mackay

Total posts: 1107
Posted:It's easy to speak East Island Australian: just substitute an "uh" sound for every vowel sound, as in "fruhsh fuhsh" for fresh fish. Get a New Zealander to say "fifty six ball point pens" for a laugh.

(ducks, hides and cringes)

Sorry guys.


There is a slight possibility that I am not actually right all of the time.

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Dom
BRONZE Member since Dec 2001

Dom

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Bristol, UK

Total posts: 3009
Posted:"East Island Australian"
Just affix 'eh' on to the end of every sentence. It took me ages to stop doing that and I was only there for a couple of months!

Seriously, it's what you call poi is not what the Maoris call poi.

Maori poi are used as tools for a dance and accompanying song which tells a story and from what I've seen the poi moves themselves tend to be smaller set of moves than we do, and they are uised represent features of a story.

Nobody really knows the specifics of how our style of poi started - it was probably concurrent evolution with several different origins merging over times. I wrote this post whilst in NZ.

So, browse around this site for information, and do searches about Maori poi, India club swinging and glow-sticking. And then fly out to where so many people first pick up poi - Thailand. And go via NZ while you're at it. It's a fine excuse for a holiday!


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Valura
SILVER Member since Apr 2002

Valura

Mumma Hen
Location: Brisbane, Australia

Total posts: 6391
Posted:"east island australian"

You'll all be eating your words when we win the ruggers on saturday


TAJ "boat mummy." VALURA "yes sweetie you went on a boat, was daddy there with you?" TAJ "no, but monkey on boat" VALURA "well then sweetie, Daddy WAS there with you"

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zwitterion
SILVER Member since Jul 2003

zwitterion

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Location: Iowa

Total posts: 52
Posted:eh

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joe_sixsteps


joe_sixsteps

mULti-torTOISe
Location: Kent currently, Cornwall soon,...

Total posts: 310
Posted:No wukkin furries mate, eh?

If you really want to join the extensive community of plastic maoris on this site Josette, the key phrases are:

Kia ora: hello
Kia ora koe: wishing you health
Kia koa koe: wishing you joy
Ka au rtau i te riri i te hneatanga o ta rtau poaka i a rtau: the neighbours are howling because their pig has escaped

Just dab those into your posts every which way, and Jonah Lomu's your uncle!



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Josette
BRONZE Member since Mar 2017

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Location: Saint-Mary's Bay, Nova Scotia

Total posts: 23
Posted:Thank you soooo much for the input. But one thing I am not getting is the "East Island Australian" thing. Is it in quotations for a reason? Pardon my naivete...it sounds like it is a bit of suttle jab.

Dom and Valura thank you so much for the details. The more I read the more I feel like I should be there with you. If financial planning goes as planned I should be there in year. I promised a friend I would be in Aus around that time. To be among so many fire spinners would be amazing.

It is true what you said about spinning though. It is truly orginated from the individual. There is no set pattern because the motions follow the spirit of the person performing.
Dom I will definatly be checking out Indian Club Swinging (sounds like fun...almost erotic )
I am so excited to be part of this learning experience.

HOP Kia koa koe. Thanks Joe for the teachings. Trs appreci = very appreciated


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Wizz


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Location: UK

Total posts: 206
Posted:Kiwi word
Bogan = rude boy, car racer

Maori word
Poku = Tummy

Thats about all I can add to this topic.


Poi... it's an obsession.

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Josette
BRONZE Member since Mar 2017

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Location: Saint-Mary's Bay, Nova Scotia

Total posts: 23
Posted:Merci beaucoup for the input. Keep em coming...

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Valura
SILVER Member since Apr 2002

Valura

Mumma Hen
Location: Brisbane, Australia

Total posts: 6391
Posted:PUKU is tummy
UPUKU is head
TURI is knees
WAI WAI is feet
PAKAHEWI is shoulders


sooooo.... UPUKU, PAKAHEWI, PUKU, TURI, WAI WAI.... is
HEAD, SHOULDERS, TUMMY, KNEES AND TOES, KNEES AND TOES...



TAJ "boat mummy." VALURA "yes sweetie you went on a boat, was daddy there with you?" TAJ "no, but monkey on boat" VALURA "well then sweetie, Daddy WAS there with you"

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Charles
BRONZE Member since Jun 2001

Charles

Corporate Circus Arts Entertainer
Location: Auckland

Total posts: 3989
Posted:And Taniwha = Female prime minister



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the_seal


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Location: Oz

Total posts: 51
Posted:quote:Originally posted by Wizz:
Kiwi word
Bogan = rude boy, car racer
Oh no, no, no!!! Bogan is an Australian word and we're taking it back for all the mullet having, blue singlet and stubbies shorts wearing, Winfield Red smoking, goon bag drinking, old Holden driving, beer gutted men in this country!



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-Guerilla Television, 1971

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Josette
BRONZE Member since Mar 2017

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Location: Saint-Mary's Bay, Nova Scotia

Total posts: 23
Posted:There seems to be friendly opposition between Australians and New Zealanders. Why is this?

And thanks again for all the language tips. Do Aussie's have their own language also, or is it the same aboriginal based language?


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pounce
SILVER Member since Jan 2003

pounce

All the neurotic makings of America's lesser known sweetheart
Location: body in Las Vegas, heart all a...

Total posts: 9831
Posted:i just have one question, cause i've heard this a lot, and i've guessed what it means, but i'd just like some confirmation....

uni? means school or something, yes?


I was always scared with my mother's obsession with the good scissors. It made me wonder if there were evil scissors lurking in the house somewhere.

Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons for you are crunchy and good with ketchup.

**giggles**

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vanize
SILVER Member since Aug 2001

vanize

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Austin, Texas

Total posts: 3899
Posted:

are you being sarcastic? I thought every body in the world besides americans knew "uni" means "university".

Have you been in the states too long, or do they not say that in England?


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pounce
SILVER Member since Jan 2003

pounce

All the neurotic makings of America's lesser known sweetheart
Location: body in Las Vegas, heart all a...

Total posts: 9831
Posted:no i was being serious. i assumed it meant university. and i only lived in london for a lil while, never heard that term while i was there. i'm originally from the states.

I was always scared with my mother's obsession with the good scissors. It made me wonder if there were evil scissors lurking in the house somewhere.

Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons for you are crunchy and good with ketchup.

**giggles**

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woodnymph


woodnymph

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Location: london,uk

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Posted:i think the first time i heard uni was on neighbours.. it is definetely not an english term unless the influx of aussie and kiwi teachers into uk has started to leave its mark...

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Matthew B-M


Matthew B-M

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Location: East London Wilds

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Posted:It's left its mark. I hear "uni" quite a lot as a contraction of "University". (also as a contraction of "unicycle", but who cares about those, eh? )

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