Forums > Beginner Poi Moves > backwards 5-beat weave help!

Posted: 10th Sep 2005
practice practice pracitce.
really try to send the leading poi over to the other side as soon as possible.
that's all the advice i can give.

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Posted: 10th Sep 2005
Don't worry, I've been able to do forwards 5-beat and backwards 4-beat for months and months but for some reason I can't get that extra beat backwards. I know exactly whats going wrong- I can't get my lead poi to move back over to my right side, I know the moment its meant to do it, my wrist just refuses to do it.

Solution=practice more.

(if not dislocate wrist)

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Posted: 10th Sep 2005
is it perhaps that you are wary of getting the poi in your head that makes you hesitate.
that can easily happen on backward moves:P

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Posted: 10th Sep 2005
i wish it were that simple. i know for a fact that this is not the case seeing as i went through a stage where i hit myself in the face EVERY TIME i tried to do the move. ffs thank god that's over hehe. like i said, now the problem is with split timing and i can't seem to make an improvement.
oh well. i guess i'll just need to "practice practice practice" prob the best advice i can get anyways!

bleh i'll get it sooner or later

was just wondering if someone had the same prob and came up with an approach or something that worked for them!

Posted: 11th Sep 2005
yeah like i said about the split timing itself.
try to send the leading poi to the other side as soon as possible and try to send the other one as late as possible:P
its not a very good explanation but i suck at teaching

i dont really remember how i o the split timing but my 5beats are clean and split nowadays:P

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Posted: 11th Sep 2005
i find i can never tell very well how good my split timing is until i see a vid of my fire poi or some vid. i dont practise at all, my 5's a really smooth now, which i am stoked about. it really is just practise practise pratise. maybe do it infront of mirror. if you get into the habit of doing it infront of mirror it can help with alot of other tricks, like iso's.

my cords dont get wrapped around my wrists when im doin 5's, maybe you need to wrap your wrists more around each other, if that makes any sense. sounds like you have diagnosed the prob already. maybe its just practise to more flexibilize your wrists (yes, i just made up a word, but you know what i mean).

its not esential, but both palms should be facing inwards as much as possible for rev-5-beat weave...atleast in my experience.

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Posted: 11th Sep 2005
You might find it easier with a thru-wrap...

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Posted: 11th Sep 2005
I think a thru-wrap was what he was trying to avoid.

So you've got the hand motions down for the forwards five beat, and you've figured out the not going too fast thing, and you find yourself doing the cheaters version of the move. ok

All I can suggest is to pick a side you want to work on, I'm right handed and I find it easier to learn things on my left first, but I could just be a freak do the three beat on that side, add the extra beat, then just let the whole thing collapse.

It's sort of like doing the three beat, then adding the extra beat then it's "over" just go into reverse spinning. Try it again, three beat weave on your right side, then five beat on your left,,,,collapse. Once you've got the hang of not wrapping your chain around your wrist, learn the other side.

Once you've got the hand motions sorted out, then it's time to work on timing. I've noticed most people have the same timing issues when they first learn this move. The poi always seem to catch up and they end up pulling them across to their other side in same time,,I sure did.

Then it's just a matter of time practicing, counting, and thinking about a nice even split time....... Hope that helps

Posted: 11th Sep 2005
hmm. i just came to a realisation... maybe i'm finding it so difficult because i'm using sock poi? if i was using normal poi, i would have a little more room to use before the chain (or socks) get tangled on my wrist. i don't know if i'm making any sense or being clear, but perhaps having my sock-poi starting from my closed fist instead of having a chain that starts from my fingers makes a difference? any thoughts? maybe i should buy some of those beginner poi

thx for all the help so far btw... been trying but not too much progress tbh. the only way i get results is if i completely stop spinning the left poi (this being on my right side) and let my right-wrist carry it around and over to the other side as i cross over with my right poi. this looks kind of sloppy and forces me to go WAAAAYYY too slow for my liking though . oh well