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Posted: 24th Jun 2008
but if not, theres always someone with spare space/tent

"the geeks have got you" - Gayle

Posted: 14th Jul 2008
minor update with current state of production
(*shh.. early teaser coming in two weeks time )

Posted: 15th Jul 2008
two forward ; three backward

LENIN TANGO

cheers TT

Posted: 24th Jul 2008
It's teaser-time

Posted: 24th Jul 2008
EJC?

the best smiles are the ones you lead to

Posted: 24th Jul 2008
hell yeah

Posted: 31st Jul 2008
Duvan, pleasure to meet you and I see youn again the day after tomorow, EJC! :P

//Thomas

"I don´t like shoes, definitely not spinning with shoes, they make my feet feel flat, my feet are not flat...."

Posted: 5th Aug 2008
please dont take this the wrong way, but I think it would be interesting if you told the story that we didn't all know already - that of what was influencing and happening in the fire spinning world before HOP brought us together?

In that whole list of recommendations I think there was only 2 or 3 people I havent seen a video of or met IRT. and of those only one I've not heard of before.

While its easy for many people to forget, there were people doing poi and staff years before 90% of the gods listed here started. I'd be really interested in the story of the people in the generation before the one I'm already familiar with...or even before that.

Eg Robert Heart etc etc. (yeah I'm serious!)

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Posted: 5th Aug 2008
PS and I think PrickyLeaf has some awesome points that could be investigated about gender, and the influence of fashion in spinning style over participation / inspiration / dedication by gender. Cuz I've certainly noticed that the shift to high tech spinning in the last ...oh 5 to 7 years has certainly left more than a few oldsckool girl spinners sitting on the bench feeling uninspired.

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Posted: 10th Aug 2008
hey all,

thanks for the EJC and stuff; although I didn't really "enjoy" it as much as I would have wanted to I really loved it. I just realized the past few days that shooting a documentary doesnt go very well with partying/spinning/relaxing all day long
but I got soooo much of nice footage and I really wanna thank you all for the amazing time.

@pyro
thanks for your input. I have to say though that it comes very late. since I am currently shooting it is almost impossible to change the concept. all I can promise you though is that what you will see from the more recent "gods" will differ completely from what you know so far. no more words about that, be surprised as soon as the film is finished
as for prickyleaf's comment: she has definitiely got a point with what she said and I will investigate this issue in a more detailed manner.

PS: Buy drew's book! It really is [censored] amazing

Posted: 12th Aug 2008
RE Drews book: yeah I bought it already!

RE surprises - that's a big call Duvan, I'll wait in anticipation I guess!

Josh

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Posted: 12th Aug 2008
ya welcome back from EJC, Duvan I believe they didn't plan for an 'official' dvd filming there so it's excellent you've got some poi footage. And footage of other stuff too perhaps. From reading the EJC thread 's been tons of amazing stuff eh.

Where are you going between now and UberOz3? Bornfire?

.....Can't juggle balls but I sure as hell can juggle details....

Posted: 12th Aug 2008

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Pyrolific: I've certainly noticed that the shift to high tech spinning in the last ...oh 5 to 7 years has certainly left more than a few oldsckool girl spinners sitting on the bench feeling uninspired.

I think there is comming a time that will be interesting for both sides.



I believe,



:R

POI THEO(R)IST

Posted: 13th Aug 2008
@gabe: I got lots of poi & fireshow footage but hardly any other stuff. I thought about filming all the amazing things but if I would have done that I wouldn't even had the time for a proper lunch each day
right now I am not going anywhere but I need to capture the footage I shot and look for a flat in Berlin.

@josh: quote by alexander pope
'Blessed is the man who expects nothing, for he shall never be disappointed'
be blessed, my friend

Posted: 13th Aug 2008
Can't wait to see the footages of the first fire open stage dude!!!!

Posted: 19th Aug 2008
Hey guys,

added a poll about how poi spread around the world.
As far as I know it was something like this.

1) New Zealand
2) Thailand
3) Australia
4) England
5) France/Germany/SouthEastAsia
6) USA / Japan
7) East Europe
8) South Africa?

I am not so sure about that order so maybe we can figure out how it spread at least in a very vague way. Need this information for I will do some animation of the world map for the documentary.

PS: val: you'll get that stuff as soon as I make it to paris

Posted: 19th Aug 2008
..do you have a look in your work, how the evolution of "careocas" from south america was-is ???

it-s also of an old culture in south america (mayas- or incas, forgot)
and similar to poi
whats about this line

do you or somebody know more about ??

josh

Posted: 19th Aug 2008
wow nice,
never heard of that?

Posted: 19th Aug 2008
yeah and then you need to consider if you are going to include the influence of club swinging (Indian / Persian) on poi (cuz until recently poi moves that we do bear a lot more similarity to club swinging that polynesian poi).

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Posted: 19th Aug 2008
I seen some performance about it, and in italy a lot of people believe that poi are an evolution of cariocas . The are used like a music instrument

on youtube i found this https://it.youtube.com/watch?v=_guOCI5WUP8

Posted: 20th Aug 2008
@pyro: yeah, I wasn't aware of club spinning either until a few people told me on the EJC about the connection of club&poi manipulation. this will definitely be mentioned.



@nulleamai: thank you so much for that video, I liked it very much. hmm will try to get in touch with bola players so maybe I can arrange to get some footage from them. by the way: how's it going over there in Italy? It wasn't until a minute ago that I remembered that you were that awesome guy I met at the EJC

Posted: 20th Aug 2008
awesome is too much! :-)

Here in italy the community is growing, i'm meeting more and more guys that are learning advanced tricks and maybe that in a few years we will have some good spinners!

3 years ago there was less that 10 guys that try to learn advanced skills and now there are 50 i think, and the "culture" of poi is growing.

Posted: 20th Aug 2008
@Nulleamai> well 6/7 years ago there was plenty of club-swinger & poi player in Italy .. some of them taught me my first BTB stuff
I even remember a guy that was playing 5/6 poi at the same time ..
I guess that - as most of the talented spinner I've been hanging with - .. they've stopped, or moved onto smoething else

Max, don't forget the Hungarian community .. Gora & many professional troupe have been around for way longer than you think

Posted: 20th Aug 2008
Olive it's true what you say, i am the "second generation", you are talking of the "first"...

I did't meet steel people of the first generation, only people that starded to spin some yars ago and said me that "once upon a time" thare was amazing spinners but all of them leave italy or stopped to spin...

Posted: 27th Aug 2008
Carioca : is a old game in Spain with one ?poi?
(a forgotten game)
Cariocas:now with s for(plural)two Poi
Gaucho Bolas:like Poi but wiht wooden Ballhead to hit the
ground and making a sound of stepping
(Argentina-Brasil)

1997 I saw first time Poi & Staff , old skool , first generation and i`m still plying...
hug TT
cool

Posted: 27th Aug 2008
@TT so you did it ..fine !!

good yor answer to cariocas..gracias!

@DUVAN: do you have a look how poi is connection with other disciplines like dance or theatre--if not get inspired and meet

hog
josh

Posted: 27th Aug 2008
Max that's a very nice EJC video you have made there.
You win 3 prizes.

https://www.redsarah.com
Ask her nicely and she might give you some useful leads about poi from 10+ years ago, she was already a very good performer in London when I started.

Want Old school? this is old school, and why I think modern poi has more origins in indian club swinging than maori poi:



Mind you this lady really is old school, she is totally the Schatz (eh Coleman :D)

Posted: 27th Aug 2008
ps flag poi in 1933.
https://www.homeofpoi.com/gallery/showpho...=500&page=1

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Posted: 28th Aug 2008
glass:

fantastic vid-s!!
thanxs a lot ..and i hope we can enjoy soon that poi flag one

josh