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Well, there were developed just few new techniques of new way of spinning. Its right time to put the moves into new dimensions.
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Well, there were developed just few new techniques of new way of spinning. Its right time to put the moves into new dimensions.
- [Old link]
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Stay tuned, more to come, binary division.
enjoys the ride,
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everything has alllways been in 3d, im starting to realise that. the 2d appearance of things is down to spinning in wall plane and looking striaght at the wall.
everything has alllways been in 3d, im starting to realise that. the 2d appearance of things is down to spinning in wall plane and looking striaght at the wall.
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oli, i think you'll find everything has always been 4d.
the 3d appearance of things is due to the amount of photos we see but meeting other spinners and watching videos opens our eyes to the possibilities the 4th dimension brings us
there is a very small bit of discussion on what oli is referring to (why spinning looks a bit 2d) in the last few posts of the 'planes' thread (in the help forum).
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oli, i think you'll find everything has always been 4d.
the 3d appearance of things is due to the amount of photos we see but meeting other spinners and watching videos opens our eyes to the possibilities the 4th dimension brings us
there is a very small bit of discussion on what oli is referring to (why spinning looks a bit 2d) in the last few posts of the 'planes' thread (in the help forum).
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*fails to point out that the 4th dimension is, in fact, time*
*fails to point out that the 4th dimension is, in fact, time*
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That's one theory.
Wouldn't it be impossible to percieve the 4th deminsion, seeing as we're all 3rd dimensional creatures?
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*fails to point out that the 4th dimension is, in fact, time*
That's one theory.
Wouldn't it be impossible to percieve the 4th deminsion, seeing as we're all 3rd dimensional creatures?
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actually.. to be fair.. you percieve things in 2d.. like a computer screen.. you just interprete it as being 3d.. same way the dicrepency in the 'snapshots' you percieve lets you interpret things being 4d.. .
but aside from that.. I think its a nice illusion..
just like richee's gathering all this stuff here is a very nice post.. whatever the post title..
actually.. to be fair.. you percieve things in 2d.. like a computer screen.. you just interprete it as being 3d.. same way the dicrepency in the 'snapshots' you percieve lets you interpret things being 4d.. .
but aside from that.. I think its a nice illusion..
just like richee's gathering all this stuff here is a very nice post.. whatever the post title..
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um... I'm confused...
Up/Down(height) Left/Right(Width) Forward/Back(depth) that's 3d right? Your poi burn for X minutes, so that's 4d...
if you spin in one plane and one plane only and never ever change sides of your body or anything, then you spinning in 3 deminsions (up/down left/right and time), change sides and you've entered 4 demensions by moving forward/backward, so yeah, wth are you guys goin on about?
um... I'm confused...
Up/Down(height) Left/Right(Width) Forward/Back(depth) that's 3d right? Your poi burn for X minutes, so that's 4d...
if you spin in one plane and one plane only and never ever change sides of your body or anything, then you spinning in 3 deminsions (up/down left/right and time), change sides and you've entered 4 demensions by moving forward/backward, so yeah, wth are you guys goin on about?
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to help clear some of this up..
what I meant - your eyes acan only percieve 2d.. (3 and 4d are intuited by your brain from the 2d images you percieve)
what others meant- poi has been spun 2d.. flat planes like wall and wheel.. and even though you mvoe between layers in that.. its really just like moving an icon over something on your desktop.. 3d spinning (for me at least) involves your hand moving in a different plane from the poi.. think of it like doing an isolation.. (your hands follows the poi.. they spin in the same plane..) now move your hand circle a little to the right.. so that the poi circle spins a plane flat like ->| |<-is the plane that your hand spin in..
we are all aware of what 3d is.. and this make your moves more 3 dimensional (in their component pattern parts) than the 2d style spinning that most people do..
to help clear some of this up..
what I meant - your eyes acan only percieve 2d.. (3 and 4d are intuited by your brain from the 2d images you percieve)
what others meant- poi has been spun 2d.. flat planes like wall and wheel.. and even though you mvoe between layers in that.. its really just like moving an icon over something on your desktop.. 3d spinning (for me at least) involves your hand moving in a different plane from the poi.. think of it like doing an isolation.. (your hands follows the poi.. they spin in the same plane..) now move your hand circle a little to the right.. so that the poi circle spins a plane flat like ->| |<-is the plane that your hand spin in..
we are all aware of what 3d is.. and this make your moves more 3 dimensional (in their component pattern parts) than the 2d style spinning that most people do..
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so if the 4th dimension is time, this presumably means variation in timing/seperation of the poi is the way to make use of it? (i.e, one poi fast, one poi slow) Sorry, everytime I talk to Karen about this she just tells me I'm being stoopid
so if the 4th dimension is time, this presumably means variation in timing/seperation of the poi is the way to make use of it? (i.e, one poi fast, one poi slow) Sorry, everytime I talk to Karen about this she just tells me I'm being stoopid Because ActiveAngel sounds like a feminine deodorant
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try doing poi without using the 4th dimension - here is an example of what you might look like.
but yes lazyangel, speed variation and polyrhythms are great areas of poi spinning that i love.
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try doing poi without using the 4th dimension - here is an example of what you might look like.
but yes lazyangel, speed variation and polyrhythms are great areas of poi spinning that i love.
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I think I disagree with your eyes only being able to percieve 2d...
but thanks for the clarification
I think I disagree with your eyes only being able to percieve 2d...
but thanks for the clarification
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What I ment to make this thread was to make tention on moves that are not only in parallel planar system. You know like you are spinning in corridor.
There is nice Frame theory from Dom, that bypass it, inna way you imagine many corridors side by side.
I want to expand this theory. This is cause most of the time I was spinning I just move my body to make propper circles for listeneres.
To make a tention, that moves look different from different point of view.
Well, I discussed dimensions with Rev and I agree that 3D spinning can meen that hand is doing circlein different plane than Poi head circle plane. In that case only Helix is 3D for sure.
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What I ment to make this thread was to make tention on moves that are not only in parallel planar system. You know like you are spinning in corridor.
There is nice Frame theory from Dom, that bypass it, inna way you imagine many corridors side by side.
I want to expand this theory. This is cause most of the time I was spinning I just move my body to make propper circles for listeneres.
To make a tention, that moves look different from different point of view.
Well, I discussed dimensions with Rev and I agree that 3D spinning can meen that hand is doing circlein different plane than Poi head circle plane. In that case only Helix is 3D for sure.
For more open and space spinning.
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by all means disagree... if we all agreed then this world would be boring...
I was just pointing to the vast amount of psych literature on vision and perception.. we learn to intuit the 3rd dimension much the same as learning the 4th dimension... we learn the 4th by filling in the gap between spaces.. like a flipbook... we learn 3d by interpreting visual cues like lines and such..
there's an awesome (and cruel) study where they raised cats in an environment without one type of lines (i can't remember if it was vertical or horizontal) but the cats later couldn't see edges made from those lines or anything...
point is we learn to see things in 3d the same way our tv or monitor appears 3d... kinda like how we live in a 10d universe but only percieve 4..
by all means disagree... if we all agreed then this world would be boring...
I was just pointing to the vast amount of psych literature on vision and perception.. we learn to intuit the 3rd dimension much the same as learning the 4th dimension... we learn the 4th by filling in the gap between spaces.. like a flipbook... we learn 3d by interpreting visual cues like lines and such..
there's an awesome (and cruel) study where they raised cats in an environment without one type of lines (i can't remember if it was vertical or horizontal) but the cats later couldn't see edges made from those lines or anything...
point is we learn to see things in 3d the same way our tv or monitor appears 3d... kinda like how we live in a 10d universe but only percieve 4..
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Rev is wrong, Rev is wrong!
Throws one wrench into the system:
I'd agree that EACH eye only percieves in two dimentions. But you have two AND they're offset. AND they have movable focal points (blurring things in front of and behind the focused object).
And wrench #2:
Dyslexia. I'd argue that ANY perception (including what you're calling 2D) is interpreted by the brain. It's all just pixelated rods and cones. The 'image', even 2d, is an interpretation.
I have a student that can't tell the difference between a 'b' and a 'd' on a 2D piece of paper... and his eyes are fine.
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your eyes acan only percieve 2d.. (3 and 4d are intuited by your brain from the 2d images you percieve)
Throws one wrench into the system:
I'd agree that EACH eye only percieves in two dimentions. But you have two AND they're offset. AND they have movable focal points (blurring things in front of and behind the focused object).
And wrench #2:
Dyslexia. I'd argue that ANY perception (including what you're calling 2D) is interpreted by the brain. It's all just pixelated rods and cones. The 'image', even 2d, is an interpretation.
I have a student that can't tell the difference between a 'b' and a 'd' on a 2D piece of paper... and his eyes are fine.
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NYC makes a good point, the eyes are offset to allow for a false render of the 3D nature of the world. It's sort of like a demultiplexer.
Whilst the 4th dimension is time, it has ONE direction that cannot be altered, or changed in velocity. Whilst I appreciate that without time, there would be no spinning, there would also be nothing else going on; and furthermore, whilst you can move poi through all 3 Dimensions, there is no way to move back and forth in the 4th dimension. Doing so would mean exceeding the speed of light, which, as we all know; is impossible as it requires breaking fundamental laws of Thermodynamics.
NYC makes a good point, the eyes are offset to allow for a false render of the 3D nature of the world. It's sort of like a demultiplexer.
Whilst the 4th dimension is time, it has ONE direction that cannot be altered, or changed in velocity. Whilst I appreciate that without time, there would be no spinning, there would also be nothing else going on; and furthermore, whilst you can move poi through all 3 Dimensions, there is no way to move back and forth in the 4th dimension. Doing so would mean exceeding the speed of light, which, as we all know; is impossible as it requires breaking fundamental laws of Thermodynamics.
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nyc is wrong... because having 2 eyes doesnt make you see 3d.. it just makes you see clearer.. each eye still encodes things in 2d ONLY.. whether you have 1 2d image or 2 2d images doesnt make them 3d.. the process byw whihc you intuit 3d is the same for one or both..
dyslexia has nothing to do with 2d vs 3d.. it has nothing to do with his eyes either.. so I'm confused as why that even comes up.. problems with interpretation have nothing to do with sensation.. ie the impression left upon the eye.. the impression as percieved by the eye is 2d.. and its not an interpretation its an impression..
sorry nyc.. if the eyes see 2d.. we see 2d.. because that is the only 'direct; sense we have in vision.. so everything after 2d is interpretation..
nyc is wrong... because having 2 eyes doesnt make you see 3d.. it just makes you see clearer.. each eye still encodes things in 2d ONLY.. whether you have 1 2d image or 2 2d images doesnt make them 3d.. the process byw whihc you intuit 3d is the same for one or both..
dyslexia has nothing to do with 2d vs 3d.. it has nothing to do with his eyes either.. so I'm confused as why that even comes up.. problems with interpretation have nothing to do with sensation.. ie the impression left upon the eye.. the impression as percieved by the eye is 2d.. and its not an interpretation its an impression..
sorry nyc.. if the eyes see 2d.. we see 2d.. because that is the only 'direct; sense we have in vision.. so everything after 2d is interpretation..
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But the very nature of the eyes being offset by that crucial angle allows for that false impression of 3D. The reason that things appear 3D is merely because each eye sees a very slithly different image that the brain can interpret as a depth (different distances between elements in each image, therefore different distances away).
This merely creates a false 3D image to be made, but is rather more like a vector quantity; a 2D image with another attribute which gives more information, but not enough to actually be 3D.
But the very nature of the eyes being offset by that crucial angle allows for that false impression of 3D. The reason that things appear 3D is merely because each eye sees a very slithly different image that the brain can interpret as a depth (different distances between elements in each image, therefore different distances away).
This merely creates a false 3D image to be made, but is rather more like a vector quantity; a 2D image with another attribute which gives more information, but not enough to actually be 3D.
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Rev, you made 2 implications.
1) "2D is not intuited" which is wrong as evidenced by the concept of dyslexia.
2) "We do not see in 3D" which is wrong. Since we have two eyes that are offset from each other AND have eyes which focus at distinct distances we are able to establish X, Y and Z position of a particle.
Rev, you made 2 implications.
1) "2D is not intuited" which is wrong as evidenced by the concept of dyslexia.
2) "We do not see in 3D" which is wrong. Since we have two eyes that are offset from each other AND have eyes which focus at distinct distances we are able to establish X, Y and Z position of a particle.
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If you're gonna argue that the Z plane is a false created image, I'll agree. As long as you agree that the X and Y planes are false created images as well.
There is nothing more "true" about the X and Y perception than the Z perception. It all goes through the brain and is therefore subjective. (That was my point about dyslexia)
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This merely creates a false 3D image to
If you're gonna argue that the Z plane is a false created image, I'll agree. As long as you agree that the X and Y planes are false created images as well.
There is nothing more "true" about the X and Y perception than the Z perception. It all goes through the brain and is therefore subjective. (That was my point about dyslexia)
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nyc-
my point is this.. the psychological literature.. (sense and perception books, research, etc.. ) says that the brian creates 3 and 4 d.. the brain does not create 2d because the eyes can geta snapshot much in the same way the camera does..
think of your vision like a really rich and detailed painting.. a painting set on a pair of glasses in front of your face.. you would see the 2d painting just as you see your 3d world now...
dysliexia is a malfunction in the brain.. it ahs nothing to do with how you percieve.. because its after interpretation.. the same as 3d.. and thus already flawed.. the 2d image that they take in is NOT flawed.. its the brain processes between the 2d picture and the 3d perception that cause the problems.. not the image itself..
the eyes function with a 'frame rate'... in fact most of the world you see.. you dont see.. they can trace peoples eye movements... there's an experiment they did where they used lasers to follow a persons eyemovements.. they move all over.. so even when you 'focus' on one thing.. you are really still looking all around.. this way the brain gets enough data to keep a constant 'background' image...
I'm sorry.. I'd love to admit that you make a valid point and move on.. but there is nothing to back up the claims you make.. the only valid point you made was that the eyes can percieve 3d using the disjuncted eyes.. and that's only half right.. you can percieve 3d fine with only one eye.. the eyes just help you to perceive changes in objects.. its 2 2d images that are stuck together.. kinda like a panoramic shot, or google earth.. the only thing 3d about any of this.. is the interpretation that goes on between you seeing something.. and you percieveing it..
I'm going to end this now, because we are horribly off topic.. I dont even know why I carried this out other than I hate for people to spread misinformation..
nyc-
my point is this.. the psychological literature.. (sense and perception books, research, etc.. ) says that the brian creates 3 and 4 d.. the brain does not create 2d because the eyes can geta snapshot much in the same way the camera does..
think of your vision like a really rich and detailed painting.. a painting set on a pair of glasses in front of your face.. you would see the 2d painting just as you see your 3d world now...
dysliexia is a malfunction in the brain.. it ahs nothing to do with how you percieve.. because its after interpretation.. the same as 3d.. and thus already flawed.. the 2d image that they take in is NOT flawed.. its the brain processes between the 2d picture and the 3d perception that cause the problems.. not the image itself..
the eyes function with a 'frame rate'... in fact most of the world you see.. you dont see.. they can trace peoples eye movements... there's an experiment they did where they used lasers to follow a persons eyemovements.. they move all over.. so even when you 'focus' on one thing.. you are really still looking all around.. this way the brain gets enough data to keep a constant 'background' image...
I'm sorry.. I'd love to admit that you make a valid point and move on.. but there is nothing to back up the claims you make.. the only valid point you made was that the eyes can percieve 3d using the disjuncted eyes.. and that's only half right.. you can percieve 3d fine with only one eye.. the eyes just help you to perceive changes in objects.. its 2 2d images that are stuck together.. kinda like a panoramic shot, or google earth.. the only thing 3d about any of this.. is the interpretation that goes on between you seeing something.. and you percieveing it..
I'm going to end this now, because we are horribly off topic.. I dont even know why I carried this out other than I hate for people to spread misinformation..
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brains shmains, perception blah blah, how your body makes it happen or precieves it happening is a bit irrelavent imho. Fact is, I'm still spinning my poi in 4d. height/width/depth/time. when i do i corkscrew i'm hitting all 4 dimensions in one move. The physiology of how we percieve the move has no effect on the performance of the move...
I don't wanna feed the flame, i was just trying to figure out what the OP was trying to convey by 3d spinning... I understand now that the op is simply talking about crossing dimensions in a single move. ie. one poi traveling in height/width/time the other in depth/width/time, preferably crossing each other so as to bring the moves into better contrast. Physically there are no added dimensions here, just added contrast.
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brains shmains, perception blah blah, how your body makes it happen or precieves it happening is a bit irrelavent imho. Fact is, I'm still spinning my poi in 4d. height/width/depth/time. when i do i corkscrew i'm hitting all 4 dimensions in one move. The physiology of how we percieve the move has no effect on the performance of the move...
I don't wanna feed the flame, i was just trying to figure out what the OP was trying to convey by 3d spinning... I understand now that the op is simply talking about crossing dimensions in a single move. ie. one poi traveling in height/width/time the other in depth/width/time, preferably crossing each other so as to bring the moves into better contrast. Physically there are no added dimensions here, just added contrast.
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this thread is full of half truths.
but it is in poi moves so i guess its to be expected
eyes and brains are funny.
anyway rev, you were bang on when you said this is all
richee blatently was talking about spinning in more than one parallel plane set and this discussion is nowt to do with that now.
but i don't do 3d spinning so i can't really contribute
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so even when you 'focus' on one thing.. you are really still looking all around.. this way the brain gets enough data to keep a constant 'background' image...
[...]
I hate for people to spread misinformation..
this thread is full of half truths.but it is in poi moves so i guess its to be expected
eyes and brains are funny.
anyway rev, you were bang on when you said this is all
richee blatently was talking about spinning in more than one parallel plane set and this discussion is nowt to do with that now.
but i don't do 3d spinning so i can't really contribute
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Ever anxious to add to the massive amount of redundant and confusing poi terminology, i offer these succulent morsels:
EDIT:: Atomic Spin
Plane of poi spin is at right angles (perpendicular) to plane of hand circles.
Slantspin
Plane of poi spin is at 45 degrees (or 135 degrees) to plane of hand circles.
you like? or are they rubbish for some reason? Or are there already terms for these that i missed?
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Well, I discussed dimensions with Rev and I agree that 3D spinning can meen that hand is doing circlein different plane than Poi head circle plane. In that case only Helix is 3D for sure.
Ever anxious to add to the massive amount of redundant and confusing poi terminology, i offer these succulent morsels:
EDIT:: Atomic Spin
Plane of poi spin is at right angles (perpendicular) to plane of hand circles.
Slantspin
Plane of poi spin is at 45 degrees (or 135 degrees) to plane of hand circles.
you like? or are they rubbish for some reason? Or are there already terms for these that i missed?
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cole, that illusion makes my eyes want to bleed! too wierd!
I'm still trying to get my head around 3D spinning. i realise that all moves are 3d, I just tend to think about most moves in the wall plane and floor plane. I can think about them in one or the other, I just have trouble thinking about them in both at the same time. lately i've been attempting a negative space ttn. Is that a 3d move
cole, that illusion makes my eyes want to bleed! too wierd!
I'm still trying to get my head around 3D spinning. i realise that all moves are 3d, I just tend to think about most moves in the wall plane and floor plane. I can think about them in one or the other, I just have trouble thinking about them in both at the same time. lately i've been attempting a negative space ttn. Is that a 3d move
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simian - atomic spin is the term you are searching for. rev wrote a post about it a while ago. but i think that only covers the perpendicular possiblitys...
and lazy- they are all 3d, it just depends how much you want to try and hide that from the audience/yourslef or emphasise that fact.
simian - atomic spin is the term you are searching for. rev wrote a post about it a while ago. but i think that only covers the perpendicular possiblitys...
and lazy- they are all 3d, it just depends how much you want to try and hide that from the audience/yourslef or emphasise that fact.
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They push+pull tactics are driving me loco
They shouldn't do that no no no
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Posted:
atomic is a description of poi planes relative to each other, no? (of the same order as same direction\opposite direction)
as opposed to poi plane relative to hand circle (of the same order as antispin)
atomic is a description of poi planes relative to each other, no? (of the same order as same direction\opposite direction)
as opposed to poi plane relative to hand circle (of the same order as antispin)
"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."
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atomic planes is the planes at right angles, each poi spinning with normal or antispin. atomic spin is like you say poi plane (as made by the poi head) at 90 degrees to the hand circle.
atomic planes is the planes at right angles, each poi spinning with normal or antispin. atomic spin is like you say poi plane (as made by the poi head) at 90 degrees to the hand circle.
Me train running low on soul coal
They push+pull tactics are driving me loco
They shouldn't do that no no no
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Posted:
cheers oli
ok so...
Atomic Spin
Plane of poi spin is at right angles (perpendicular) to plane of hand circles.
Slantspin
Plane of poi spin is at 45 degrees (or 135 degrees) to plane of hand circles.
cheers oliok so...
Atomic Spin
Plane of poi spin is at right angles (perpendicular) to plane of hand circles.
Slantspin
Plane of poi spin is at 45 degrees (or 135 degrees) to plane of hand circles.
"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."
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You're making baby Jeebus cry
Written by: simian
Ever anxious to add to the massive amount of redundant and confusing poi terminology, i offer these succulent morsels:
PerpendiculoSpin
Plane of poi spin is at right angles (perpendicular) to plane of hand circles.
Slantspin
Plane of poi spin is at 45 degrees (or 135 degrees) to plane of hand circles.
you like? or are they rubbish for some reason? Or are there already terms for these that i missed?
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Posted:
hehe slantspin 
hehe slantspin Me train running low on soul coal
They push+pull tactics are driving me loco
They shouldn't do that no no no
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