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Shokmember
25 posts
Location: San Antonio, Texas


Posted:
Well, finally after about 2 months of work, i have finally finished the sequel to the first Tekno Turtles Compilation, TT2, and I must say it turned out exactly how I had planned and even better. In the time period between this video and the last, I believe that stringing in SA has been taken to a new level, with so many new concepts and so much talent. People take stringing very serious down here, sometimes even TOO serious sadly. But thanks to that I have seen moves and combos performed and even invented my own, that I never would have imagined possible about a year ago. Its incredible what glowstringing has become in such a short period of time. Its like, you can't even go to the mall without running into a stringer, when about a year ago I was amazed to have even known that there were more stringers in SA besides me and my friends. Stringing has changed my life in so many ways i cant even begin to explain. I've met people I would have never have imagined I would meet and have made so many friends its insane not only here in SA but in the world!!

So anyways, about the video. Its about 18 minutes long, with a 1 minute intro and a 1 minute outro roughly. It features 12 different members from TT icluding ALL the originals. It also includes a few other stringers from TT in the credits. This video is by far my best yet, and even though I had said this would be my last compilation project, who knows? Although its EXTREMELY doubtful there may be a TT3 maybe next year or the next after that.

Anyway These are the things to watch for in this video.

1.Titles - The titles are AWESOME and took me a long while to make using cool 3D. I individual designed each logo to fit each stringer. The product is movie quality as you will see.

2.Wraps - Lots of awesome new combos, MUCH more than TT1.

3.Technical crossers / poi - Some pretty crazy crossers mainly from ditty and leo.

4.Leds - The ones I use in my part were a product of my friend Myron and myself's brainstorming. As well as all the leds used in the vid were mine.

5.Extensions and Hand Mind Games - These moves are basically whats hot right now in SA in glowstringing. Brought in by none other than bomb lol straight outta HOME OF POI!!! Ha

6.Sub-titles - These titles display the name of the move/combo that is being performed, mainly moves which are signature moves of that individual stringer.

7.On Ditty's part, watch closley to his hands AS well as all of the the stringers in the vid. You may think we're doin a move that is simple because you dont noticed where our hands are!!!

Note : Straight Jacket - Where your arms are inter-crossed in a relaxed manner as your mother would have them if you did something wrong and awaited an explanation lol.

With that said, enjoy the vid as much I have making it!!!!

TT2 - The Sequel

fraggleSILVER Member
member
94 posts
Location: denver, colorado, USA


Posted:
OMG

it finally DL and all i have to say is OMG

ive been workin so hard to get to the level U all are at and i just had a 17 minute and 40 second slap in the face says i need a lot more work A LOT more work

the vid is awsome the intro rocks all the clips are awsome and the tricks are intense. some of those moves i cant even fatum for myself now

masd props to all of u

u are truly the top ring

dance your cares away
worries for another day
so let the music play
down in fragle rock


NYCNYC
9,232 posts
Location: NYC, NY, USA


Posted:
Amazing stuff guys. Hot damn.

Firstly, top notch editing and effort. The moves were amazing and the skill level is off the charts. I'm glad and thankful that you guys continue to post here as I really do enjoy seeing what the 'other half' is up to. smile

Props too on incorporating many poi moves into glowmoves and making them work. You guys clearly did your homework and translated many jedi poi moves into your own style. I did see flashes of some fire spinners that I know in there and it's great to see you guys elevate it even higher by melding it with glowsticks.

I had one technical critique which was that it's tough to see what you guys are doing. I know that's sort of the point, but on some occations the high level of skill was missed because I couldn't quite see the move due to filming in a dark place.

And then the critique that I'm almost hesitant to bring up... Being a humble poi spinner at 1/50th of what you guys are, I can still recognise that there are a very few moves that are being pulled off solely because you're using glowsticks.

I mean, maybe that's all showmanship and it's all good, but some of the moves didn't seem clean and only seemed to work because it's so easy to restart glowsticks. Some of the wraps seemed to die and then get restarted by a quick yank rather than like the vast majority of clean ones you all did.

Maybe I should start my own thread about moves that only work in certain media with certain poi.

Maybe I'm a purist and want to believe that all tricks should be able to be done with any set of poi if you're good enough.

For example, the common glowstick trick of (I don't know what it's called) doing a buzzsaw with the strings tangled and just letting them spin for as long as you want and then yanking them apart... It's sort of just a glowstick trick. It only works because you can yank apart the glowsticks so easily and just start spinning again.

Am I making any sense? Or should I just shut up? smile

Again, though, that thought only crossed my mind on 1% of the tricks. You guys continually do the most amazing stuff and continually push the envelope of glowsticking and poi.

Props and Respect.

Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
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musashiistarring Skippy the green llama
1,148 posts
Location: Seattle, WA


Posted:
nah, I totally agree..I see alot of moves done by glo stikkers that are only possible because of glo stixx, or by people that use socks for that matter. Guess that makes me a purist too, because I think it's poor form, or a shortcut to the real move. Flame away, but I'm not downing anyones skills, I just don't think it's a 'clean' move.

First intention, then enlightenment..
Ars Pyronomica

" Life is programmed. Whether death is programmed or not is yet to be determined."


MikeIconGOLD Member
Pooh-Bah
2,109 posts
Location: Philadelphia, PA - USA


Posted:
Just because something cant be done with fire doesnt make it any less "clean". When the toys are different, the styles and techniques are different. Its like comparing a katana to a greatsword. Sure, you can use greatsword techniques with a katana but that doesnt mean youre using the katana to its full potential.

As I see it, sock poi, fire poi, and glow poi are all in the same family but each one has their own characteristics that make them quite different. Most moves can be translated between all three but each one has a few moves that can only be done with that kind of poi.

Let's turn those old bridges we crossed into ashes.
We'll blaze a new trail,
and torch the rough patches.

-Me


musashiistarring Skippy the green llama
1,148 posts
Location: Seattle, WA


Posted:
good point, I guess I'm just being elitist eh. It's not really fire per se that I think is the determining factor of whether or not a move is clean, just things like hyperloops, for example, that I see are so much easier with glo stixx, that I see alot(not all) of ppl that spin with glo stixx that learn bad habits, or learn how to 'pull' off a move that isn't clean or without full understanding of the dynamics of a move, yet still present it as the original move. And it still looks reasonably good..Or mebbe I'm just jealous, hmm wink

First intention, then enlightenment..
Ars Pyronomica

" Life is programmed. Whether death is programmed or not is yet to be determined."


KaelGotRiceGOLD Member
Basu gasu bakuhatsu - because sometimes buses explode
1,584 posts
Location: Angels Landing, USA


Posted:
Hmmmm, can I say I HAD respect for these guys until I saw their raver crew battle vid SP vs DC on their site stringeppl.com?

To do: More Firedrums 08 video?

Wildfire/US East coast fire footage

LA/EDC glow/fire footage

Fresno fire


musashiistarring Skippy the green llama
1,148 posts
Location: Seattle, WA


Posted:
wha happened?

First intention, then enlightenment..
Ars Pyronomica

" Life is programmed. Whether death is programmed or not is yet to be determined."


MillenniuMPLATINUM Member
Hyperloops suck
595 posts
Location: USA


Posted:
For example, the common glowstick trick of (I don't know what it's called) doing a buzzsaw with the strings tangled and just letting them spin for as long as you want and then yanking them apart... It's sort of just a glowstick trick. It only works because you can yank apart the glowsticks so easily and just start spinning again.

If you're referring to orbitals, I can pull those off with fire any day of the week smile While I agree with your statements about keeping moves clean is important, I don't agree that they should stick with moves that you can do with any poi. I think you should do whatever you can do and whatever makes you happy when you spin, but yes, it is a great habit to get in to do spin cleanly, with or without glowsticks.

KaelGotRiceGOLD Member
Basu gasu bakuhatsu - because sometimes buses explode
1,584 posts
Location: Angels Landing, USA


Posted:
Rev explains it better than I could.



Written by:


OMFG.... now I see not only has mtv censored up music but anything that comes into contact with it.. despite the horrid comments I downloaded this anyway.. with hopes that perhaps some of these people might display the skill that they possess... and though I saw some skill, I could have condensed the shots worht having down to about a minute and a half.. I do say that the shitty cam pickup is to blame for some of that I'm sure... but please...



hard strings.. you must be joking right.. there's this thing called an upward stall.. it works just as well..





whatever happened to timing? control? precision? PATTERNS?





for people that know how to spin poi... that was 30 minutes of mindless flailing and beating... I have to say... it was worth it for amusements sake.,.. I mean I've seen people do censored like that before.. they were drunk rednecks that have never done poi.. so I handed them my sticks and that's kinda what ahppened..





just goes to show how even something so trivial like an extension can be used so horribly... I'd say that vid was all flash... but... I didn't see any flash.. just stupid..



I guess at some point people decided screw looking good.. lets just see how dumb we can look.. ie the overhead wraps that shok is unfortunately soooo proud of..





thx for hosting/posting this... I've been losing a lot of respect lately for some people I used to look up to (for various reasons) in poi.. this kinda keeps with that trend..





I guess I should remember that when spinning in a "battle" I should just try and slap the poi about franticaly(or fanatcially whcihever you prefer) and as fast as humanly possible.. I mean.. that's what they were "judged" on right... number of hits and number of places..



oh yeah... and brightness of sticks..








But you don't need to believe any of us. Go ahead and watch it.

I believe it's a huge waste of talent.



:EDIT- But yeah SP vs. DC crew battle video... If you want to see it, search it out.



I knew once I saw it that the crew are selective about what videos make it to HoP...
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To do: More Firedrums 08 video?

Wildfire/US East coast fire footage

LA/EDC glow/fire footage

Fresno fire


NYCNYC
9,232 posts
Location: NYC, NY, USA


Posted:
Oh crap.

Withdraw my comments, withdraw my sentiments.

I don't want to get into a glowstick bitchfight.

I think the TT guys are awesome and I'm thankful that they posted here.

I did want to bring up the concept of doing moves cleanly. On that note, I wanted to add, that I do think that any move can be done with any equiptment IF it's done right. I think you can 'cheat' with such things as sock poi (like I do) or glowsticks to make an unclean move work simply because the equiptment makes it possible. I always prefer to see the move cleanly if possible. I'm all for using the equiptment to it's fullest (color changing wraps can't be done with fire, nor can most of Dom's stalls where he grabs the 'head' of his sock poi unless done quickly or with some kind of gloves... it doesn't make them any less cool.)

That was all I was saying.

I'm absolutely not bashing any video and am uncomfortable being on a thread that does.

Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]


MikeIconGOLD Member
Pooh-Bah
2,109 posts
Location: Philadelphia, PA - USA


Posted:
Just wanted to add that you can always cheat with fire also... smile

Let's turn those old bridges we crossed into ashes.
We'll blaze a new trail,
and torch the rough patches.

-Me


musashiistarring Skippy the green llama
1,148 posts
Location: Seattle, WA


Posted:
true dat, you can have bad form using any tool.

First intention, then enlightenment..
Ars Pyronomica

" Life is programmed. Whether death is programmed or not is yet to be determined."


NYCNYC
9,232 posts
Location: NYC, NY, USA


Posted:
Hey, bad form is MY style.

Don't you punks go bitin' my style. I know you wanna all be all like me and my badform self but there can be only one.

wink

Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]


MikeIconGOLD Member
Pooh-Bah
2,109 posts
Location: Philadelphia, PA - USA


Posted:
Purist indeed... rolleyes

Let's turn those old bridges we crossed into ashes.
We'll blaze a new trail,
and torch the rough patches.

-Me


Paradox EquationBRONZE Member
newbie
7 posts
Location: Knoxville, Tennessee and Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania,...


Posted:
Some of the comments on here are shockingly disrespectful.

Come on, these people made a video to show what they're capable of, and to let other people have a sense of their style. Some of us HoP'ers live in areas where there is no poi or glowstringing community at all, and exposure to new ideas and different styles comes solely from videos like this. I am personally grateful that Shok put this online for others to see, because aside from being an interesting insight into style that is completely different from my own, it was very entertaining.

Opinions are like ass-holes. Everyone has one, and not all of them are pretty.

-p.e.

MikeIconGOLD Member
Pooh-Bah
2,109 posts
Location: Philadelphia, PA - USA


Posted:
I dunno bout you but my ass-hole is damn pretty. umm

Let's turn those old bridges we crossed into ashes.
We'll blaze a new trail,
and torch the rough patches.

-Me


StarRizernewbie
4 posts

Posted:
Written by:


what do i need to get this to work help me ahh



the first link wouldnt DL

the second link DL but the compressed file wont play on my windows player do i need something else or am i doing something wrong?






If you haven't seen 'TT2' or the 'SP vs. DC' Battleyet, here's a link to both productions:



Shok2004

KaelGotRiceGOLD Member
Basu gasu bakuhatsu - because sometimes buses explode
1,584 posts
Location: Angels Landing, USA


Posted:
Written by: Paradox Equation


Some of the comments on here are shockingly disrespectful.

Come on, these people made a video to show what they're capable of, and to let other people have a sense of their style. Some of us HoP'ers live in areas where there is no poi or glowstringing community at all, and exposure to new ideas and different styles comes solely from videos like this. I am personally grateful that Shok put this online for others to see, because aside from being an interesting insight into style that is completely different from my own, it was very entertaining.

Opinions are like ass-holes. Everyone has one, and not all of them are pretty.

-p.e.




Have you seen the crew battle video?

It was a bunch of guys trying to one up each other in a club, mainly by how bright their sticks were and gimmicks like slamming the glowsticks into themselves at high speeds.

There's good technical poi, then there's bastardizing it for the masses.

Sure they're good/can be good. I'll admit that. But that doesn't stop me from thinking most of them are idiots who are misusing their talents.

I'm just posting my opinion. You're by all means welcome to think I'm a jackass, but it's people like them who make the rest of us glowstringers look like "drugged up ravers who just swing glowsticks at high speeds".

Look at my own glowstringing vid - Everyone commented on how nice it was to see a glowstringer go that slow for once. That means most glowstringers just spin as fast as possible without caring if they hit themselves.

Please watch the video before you form an opinion.

To do: More Firedrums 08 video?

Wildfire/US East coast fire footage

LA/EDC glow/fire footage

Fresno fire


PyrolificBRONZE Member
Returning to a unique state of Equilibrium
3,289 posts
Location: Adelaide, South Australia


Posted:
I thought the TT2 video was some of the best glowsitcking I've seen and certainly impressed the hell out of me. Sure some of the moves were a bit 'wobbly' but most of them seemed pretty damn good and pretty bloody hard. Stringing isnt the same as fire, it certainly can have more of an element of speed to it than fire can, and the tracers formed through the pace are also part of it. sticks are a different medium and should be used as such. 1/2 the stuff that dudes are doing with poi (eg whipcatches) cant be done with fire, that certainly doesnt mean they shouldnt be done. These guys are all just investigating the medium they are working with and for that I applaud em. I'm gonna download your vid next Kael, I'll let you know what I think once i've seen it.



Top work TT crew, I hope you keep pushing what you can do cuz thats what its all about.



Kael, I dont think this is the right place for you to post links to vids that the TT guys have made in an attempt to discredit them. Thats a thread hijack of the worst kind. How can you say these guys are wasting their talents??! Its not up to you to judge, I've seen your vid and I think that these guys could just as easily dis you as you do them.



Josh
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KaelGotRiceGOLD Member
Basu gasu bakuhatsu - because sometimes buses explode
1,584 posts
Location: Angels Landing, USA


Posted:
Written by: Josh

Kael, I dont think this is the right place for you to post links to vids that the TT guys have made in an attempt to discredit them. Thats a thread hijack of the worst kind. How can you say these guys are wasting their talents??! Its not up to you to judge, I've seen your vid and I think that these guys could just as easily dis you as you do them.



Josh






I wasn't "discrediting them". There's no doubt they are good. I'm just let HoP know about other videos of them so that they can form their own opinions, I wasn't even the one who posted the links to them.



Either way, in terms of dissing, that's fine... Shok already watched my video and mentioned TT was moving towards "longer strings" so I can call the whole bunch of them 'biting wankers' if I wanted to. Gs.c, where I admit I post/mod, and their crew website practically shuns each other on arguments of whether battling fits into glowsticking.



But the rave/glowstick scene from which they are supposedly from is about having fun and sharing the knowledge, which is why I am glad to say this battling crap is utterly retarded.



If you don't want me to publically post my opinions about that, PM me. It's fine, I'll stay quiet and keep it personal. I know you don't want a flame war on HoP.



biggrin cheers

To do: More Firedrums 08 video?

Wildfire/US East coast fire footage

LA/EDC glow/fire footage

Fresno fire


NYCNYC
9,232 posts
Location: NYC, NY, USA


Posted:
Indeed. Keep the flame wars on the Glowstick sites where they belong. wink

Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]


KaelGotRiceGOLD Member
Basu gasu bakuhatsu - because sometimes buses explode
1,584 posts
Location: Angels Landing, USA


Posted:
Yeah, welcome to gs.c old man biggrin ... feel out of place yet? wink

I'm glad for the most part gs.c is drama free and that HoP is almost completely drama free (at least from what I've seen)

To do: More Firedrums 08 video?

Wildfire/US East coast fire footage

LA/EDC glow/fire footage

Fresno fire


Sensuosamember
25 posts
Location: Barrie, Ontario


Posted:
If you look (you don't have to) at my post whereby I'm seeking poiple in the Barrie area, you'll notice no response. I take it that there are no poiple in my area and so I willingly accept the challenge to bring Poi to Barrie.

This website has been my only real connection to the Poi world. I bought my videos and gear from here and this will always be my Poi home and this is the place I choose to support. I would hope we all choose to respect this house, as I'm sure we all benefited in some form due to the contributions of the many members/creators or siblings/parents.

I find most of the posts very educational and I find the videos to be disgustingly incredibly full of useful information & entertaining & motivating, but hugely intimidating. I thought I was good, but you guys are awesome.

Shok, thank you for taking the time to record your experiences and for sharing it. For all the others, forgive me if I don't recall all the names, you've all been invaluable to lil ol' me, Kael, you stick out in my mind because I enjoyed your video too recently. Whether we play fast or slow, we have a talent that we feel compelled to share with each other, and we deserve to share. We are all we have to appreciate it in the end.

Sorry to be long winded, thanx again for the contributions. I hope one day to share something.

Boo

RevBRONZE Member
Bastard Newbie Messiah
1,269 posts
Location: Apparently lost in my ego, USA


Posted:
ok.. since I've gotten brought into this.. the comments quoted were not posted here by me for the record.. and though I do not retract said comments (because I feel them a perfect explanation of the battle video) it does not knock on the quality of the video in this thread.. ie.. TT2... infact its because of TT2's technical side that I lashed out so much, having, I guess, a false impression of their choice in spinning..

Those comments refer specifically to the battle vid.. I have issues with battling that I won't bring up here..

plz be kind to keep me out of the flame war... I get enough drama as it is.. nana

and for the record, I don't agree with either side on this though.. (meaning I don't agree with TT2 being shown but not any of their 'other' work.. nor do I agree with the direction this thread has gone)

More useless information courtesy of Rev...
Confusing the masses, one post at a time...
"Obviously, you're not a golfer.."- The Dude
"Buy the ticket... Take the ride..." -Raoul Duke
"FEMA has never done catastrophe planning..."-Michael Brown


StarRizernewbie
4 posts

Posted:
Written by:

I'm glad for the most part gs.c is drama free




That's bullshit. GSC is full of Drama

Written by:

Look at my own glowstringing vid - Everyone commented on how nice it was to see a glowstringer go that slow for once.




I saw your vid, and it doesn't measure up to what is done in TT2. Sorry dude.

Written by:

Indeed. Keep the flame wars on the Glowstick sites where they belong.




::applauds for 30 secs::

KaelGotRiceGOLD Member
Basu gasu bakuhatsu - because sometimes buses explode
1,584 posts
Location: Angels Landing, USA


Posted:
harharhar, I'll listen to you when you stop getting yourself banned from websites Starjizzer.



ahhh, keep the flamewars on glowsticking sites you say?



Then why are you flaming gs.c, dissing my video... blahblahblahwhinewhineetcetc



Written by:



That's bullshit. GSC is full of Drama






Nice dude, nice.



Seriously if you have issues, PM me.



Or on second thought, just cry me a river. I don't really care.



BTW, If you or any texas people can do what I do, I'll be impressed. Oh wait, I forgot shok was trying to learn longstrings and gave props to my vid. Silly me. biggrin



Once again starjizzer = PWN3D



When will you get it into your head that you just are jealous or people because they can do what you dream of? I hesitate to say think because of the words I've heard your mouth spew.
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To do: More Firedrums 08 video?

Wildfire/US East coast fire footage

LA/EDC glow/fire footage

Fresno fire


dj_retromember
87 posts
Location: Oklahoma, USA


Posted:
NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!

I CANT GET IT TO DL!

man i freaking loved the first one, and really wanna see this one from all the hype im reading.

this coming from a glowstringer/fire spinner

they both have their own style, advantages and disadvantages...i still do both...i love both...anything that i can swing around my body and hit myself in the balls with is always going to be fun.

so if someone can either send me the file or get a working link up i would love you forever...maybe even give you my soul (lord knows im not using it right now)

<( ' ' )>
Fear the Kirby


dj_retromember
87 posts
Location: Oklahoma, USA


Posted:
k...n/m...i got it from a friend....and damn! these guys are good...thats all i can say. some of them even had some really nice non-wrap moves. very technical and very smooth for the most part. a few things where kinda sloppy but no one is perfect. i swear i need to start practicing more, and this was the insentive i needed.

<( ' ' )>
Fear the Kirby


yannicusGOLD Member
member
169 posts
Location: Paris, France, the armpit of europe


Posted:
i dont know if i'm doomed or something, but my pc refuses to connect to that 'krakan' site;
says, first error 404, then says, forbidden, and now says bandwidth limit exeeded...

AAAAAAAAAAHHH!

sorry, but those turtle poi ninjas are like my glowstick apostles, and i could do with some inspiration

-Believing that all has been said and done is like mistaking the horizon for the limits of the world. Voltaire.
-Plus je connais hommes, plus j'aime mon chien. Pascal.


yannicusGOLD Member
member
169 posts
Location: Paris, France, the armpit of europe


Posted:
anywhere else i can find this vid?
other sites?
please...?

-Believing that all has been said and done is like mistaking the horizon for the limits of the world. Voltaire.
-Plus je connais hommes, plus j'aime mon chien. Pascal.


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