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Location: London/Bristol, United Kingdom
Posted:
Right the basic idea behind this is to tie one poi to a staff and spin them together so the poi stays at a right angle to the staff. I think this would look abit odd done with only one staff+poi but with doubles it looks really nice.
I’ve posting this in the poi moves and the staff moves section cos it’d be nice to get both perspectives on it. Personally am more natural with staffs so the moves I’ve made up are based on staff moves.
Anyhow first move to get is a figure of 8 with one staff and one poi for this the just spin the staff as you would normally and have the poi between your finger after abit of practice you should find that you can get the poi to keep at right angles, as with most things you can go in both direction with both hands. Once you've got that try adding few turns, passing the staff+poi thing from one hand to the other, pin wheels (leaving out 1/4 of a turn before and after the passes) and throws (which aren't half as hard as i expected them to be).
With double staff all the basic figure of 8 moves can be done probably the easiest one is both hands doing forwards fig on 8 with the staffs, one in front while the other’s behind and the poi are spinning in opposite direction one in front and one behind. Also turn 180 and 360 and… turns can be done.
That’s basically as far as i've got but I think the double staff move where you throw one up and do 1/2 or a full pin wheel under it should be achievable, might have to it my project for the next week.
Has anyone else played about with this and has anyone come up with anything interesting?
Tim
Right the basic idea behind this is to tie one poi to a staff and spin them together so the poi stays at a right angle to the staff. I think this would look abit odd done with only one staff+poi but with doubles it looks really nice.
I’ve posting this in the poi moves and the staff moves section cos it’d be nice to get both perspectives on it. Personally am more natural with staffs so the moves I’ve made up are based on staff moves.
Anyhow first move to get is a figure of 8 with one staff and one poi for this the just spin the staff as you would normally and have the poi between your finger after abit of practice you should find that you can get the poi to keep at right angles, as with most things you can go in both direction with both hands. Once you've got that try adding few turns, passing the staff+poi thing from one hand to the other, pin wheels (leaving out 1/4 of a turn before and after the passes) and throws (which aren't half as hard as i expected them to be).
With double staff all the basic figure of 8 moves can be done probably the easiest one is both hands doing forwards fig on 8 with the staffs, one in front while the other’s behind and the poi are spinning in opposite direction one in front and one behind. Also turn 180 and 360 and… turns can be done.
That’s basically as far as i've got but I think the double staff move where you throw one up and do 1/2 or a full pin wheel under it should be achievable, might have to it my project for the next week.
Has anyone else played about with this and has anyone come up with anything interesting?
Tim
Maybe I should change this too something abit nicer, humm no I still think your all C
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Location: Brisbane/Berlin, Australia
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Location: Brisbane/Berlin, Australia
Posted:
Sounds like good fun Trees & Beatles... :-)
I had mucked around with some of this stuff a while back, but had not gone past basic figure 8s and turns. After reading your post I leapt out of my stasis tank and went off to try these fun & wacky things of which you spoke. However I only have big heavy sticks & fluffy light poi to play with just now, and this is murder on the wrists, more so with trying to keep doubles going. Wow those throws sound great though, I was holding both rather then knoting them before, which makes doing these impossible (unless you were VERY VERY spot on I suppose). Doing it this way with one staff + poi lets you go back and forth from this style to having one in each hand (don't know if there has already been a thread about this here, but lots of weird weaves & stuff to do)
PS
This might be too silly & OT for you but an honest idea:
My old roomate in OZ liked bouncing about doing a poi butterfly in his mouth. I just had a look and 'tis a small hop away from doing this to having a couple sticks weaving about as well. Not sure how to get from right angles to this though (any 'mouth transition threads out there?).
Sounds like good fun Trees & Beatles... :-)
I had mucked around with some of this stuff a while back, but had not gone past basic figure 8s and turns. After reading your post I leapt out of my stasis tank and went off to try these fun & wacky things of which you spoke. However I only have big heavy sticks & fluffy light poi to play with just now, and this is murder on the wrists, more so with trying to keep doubles going. Wow those throws sound great though, I was holding both rather then knoting them before, which makes doing these impossible (unless you were VERY VERY spot on I suppose). Doing it this way with one staff + poi lets you go back and forth from this style to having one in each hand (don't know if there has already been a thread about this here, but lots of weird weaves & stuff to do)
PS
This might be too silly & OT for you but an honest idea:
My old roomate in OZ liked bouncing about doing a poi butterfly in his mouth. I just had a look and 'tis a small hop away from doing this to having a couple sticks weaving about as well. Not sure how to get from right angles to this though (any 'mouth transition threads out there?).
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Sounds intruiging; Will have to try that one.. Been working on staff and sword (inspired by Gandalf in LOTR
; bit geeky but looks sooooo cool when done smoothly). The aim is to get fire sword and staff going but rate limiting factor is the lack of the former (well, technically a drill to put bits together, poor excuse i know)
Sounds intruiging; Will have to try that one.. Been working on staff and sword (inspired by Gandalf in LOTR
; bit geeky but looks sooooo cool when done smoothly). The aim is to get fire sword and staff going but rate limiting factor is the lack of the former (well, technically a drill to put bits together, poor excuse i know) taco taco taco taco taco taco taco taco taco taco taco taco taco taco taco taco taco taco taco taco taco Damn those MexICan BANdits taco taco taco taco TACOFICATION taco taco taco taco taco taco
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Location: NZ
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Location: NZ
Posted:
Had a go at this under my own steam - just goes to show that old adage about spontaneous wide-spread genius (or lunacy) - look under "flaming morning star" in the other toys section
I made a toy basically a short staff (~18"), and fastened a fire poi with an 18" chain onto one end - it can then be swung poi-like, or with a poi in the opposite hand...lwhen i make another morning star will be able to spin with two! Can do lots of poi moves with it no worries, as well as figure eight and pinwheel staff moves - my favourite moe is to go between the legs by sticking the stick past me groin (poi move) then jump over it as it swings back to the front........
Currently it is broken due to an unravelled wick (damn fire poi, no wonder it was surplus) but whn i fix it and upgrade it to "Skullsplitter Mk II" i will for sure be trying to figure out some new tricks
Had a go at this under my own steam - just goes to show that old adage about spontaneous wide-spread genius (or lunacy) - look under "flaming morning star" in the other toys section
I made a toy basically a short staff (~18"), and fastened a fire poi with an 18" chain onto one end - it can then be swung poi-like, or with a poi in the opposite hand...lwhen i make another morning star will be able to spin with two! Can do lots of poi moves with it no worries, as well as figure eight and pinwheel staff moves - my favourite moe is to go between the legs by sticking the stick past me groin (poi move) then jump over it as it swings back to the front........
Currently it is broken due to an unravelled wick (damn fire poi, no wonder it was surplus) but whn i fix it and upgrade it to "Skullsplitter Mk II" i will for sure be trying to figure out some new tricks
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Location: London
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Posted:
i don't want to sound like a stuck record but why not post in [Old link]?
i don't want to sound like a stuck record but why not post in [Old link]?
"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."
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