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Um, Hello there!
Is this your intro?
If so, can you please give yourself a title so we can recognise it, and also tell us a bit about yourself?
Um, Hello there!
Is this your intro?
If so, can you please give yourself a title so we can recognise it, and also tell us a bit about yourself?
i would have changed ***** to phallus, and claire to petey Petey
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Well, I'm from Murmansk (it's a town on Kola Peninsula, It's North) I'm doing poi for two years... What Else? My name is Nastya or Anastasia... )))
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Well, I'm from Murmansk (it's a town on Kola Peninsula, It's North) I'm doing poi for two years... What Else? My name is Nastya or Anastasia... )))
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Hello Nastya!
I was reading about the Kola Peninsula yesterday! About dialects spoken there!
Hello Nastya!
I was reading about the Kola Peninsula yesterday! About dialects spoken there!
i would have changed ***** to phallus, and claire to petey Petey
Rougie: but that's what I'm doing here
Arnwyn: what letting me adjust myself in your room?..don't you dare quote that on HoP...
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))) Lovely ))) So? what did u learn about it?...if u learnt enything... did u like the information?
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))) Lovely ))) So? what did u learn about it?...if u learnt enything... did u like the information?
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It said how the dialects spoken there are at risk of becoming extinct because people are not learning them as a first language. it is a common problem in a lot of countries. I think it is sad that languages die.
It said how the dialects spoken there are at risk of becoming extinct because people are not learning them as a first language. it is a common problem in a lot of countries. I think it is sad that languages die.
i would have changed ***** to phallus, and claire to petey Petey
Rougie: but that's what I'm doing here
Arnwyn: what letting me adjust myself in your room?..don't you dare quote that on HoP...
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Yes, It's sad. But in fact they are not dying they just coming into something new. Sometimes thiere's no need for an old language to stay alife and there's more reason to make it more modern
Yes, It's sad. But in fact they are not dying they just coming into something new. Sometimes thiere's no need for an old language to stay alife and there's more reason to make it more modern
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I think it's sad that they die, because usually, a lot of culture dies with it. There is a lot to be learnt about a culture from its language.
(sorry, I am a linguistics student so I learn about this all the time!)
I think it's sad that they die, because usually, a lot of culture dies with it. There is a lot to be learnt about a culture from its language.
(sorry, I am a linguistics student so I learn about this all the time!)
i would have changed ***** to phallus, and claire to petey Petey
Rougie: but that's what I'm doing here
Arnwyn: what letting me adjust myself in your room?..don't you dare quote that on HoP...
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But the culture can be saved )
But the culture can be saved )
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In books! But books do not preserve the essence of life; merely the memory of it!
In books! But books do not preserve the essence of life; merely the memory of it!
i would have changed ***** to phallus, and claire to petey Petey
Rougie: but that's what I'm doing here
Arnwyn: what letting me adjust myself in your room?..don't you dare quote that on HoP...
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only in books?
only in books?
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How else can a culture be preserved if not through oral tradition or books?
How else can a culture be preserved if not through oral tradition or books?
i would have changed ***** to phallus, and claire to petey Petey
Rougie: but that's what I'm doing here
Arnwyn: what letting me adjust myself in your room?..don't you dare quote that on HoP...
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music, art, dance, crafts...
music, art, dance, crafts...
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Posted:
but these elements do not preserve the elements of a culture which are unique to language.
Language tells us so much about a culture which other aspects, such as art cannot portray.
Even the differences between Australian English and American English portray the cultural values we place on things; an explanation which without language loses a lot of its basis. Without the language it's like saying "this culture believes in X as shown by their many idioms relating to it..." only we don't know what X is because we don't know what the language is because it's dead.
but these elements do not preserve the elements of a culture which are unique to language.
Language tells us so much about a culture which other aspects, such as art cannot portray.
Even the differences between Australian English and American English portray the cultural values we place on things; an explanation which without language loses a lot of its basis. Without the language it's like saying "this culture believes in X as shown by their many idioms relating to it..." only we don't know what X is because we don't know what the language is because it's dead.
i would have changed ***** to phallus, and claire to petey Petey
Rougie: but that's what I'm doing here
Arnwyn: what letting me adjust myself in your room?..don't you dare quote that on HoP...
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but language just gives us the name of the phenomenon we sow and felt. Ofcourse It gives the full picture but It's not the only way of understanding. It's one of the aspects of culture
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but language just gives us the name of the phenomenon we sow and felt. Ofcourse It gives the full picture but It's not the only way of understanding. It's one of the aspects of culture
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It does much more than give us just a name!
Take Japanese for example;
Japanese language does not use articles, either definite or indefinite (the/a) nor does it use plurals. And this aspect of the language is a reflection of their traditional religion (an animistic religion called Shinto) which believed that everything in nature was a god and gods were in evertyhing. They saw all things as equal and all things as one. Therefore if everything is one - then why do they need plurals to indicate more than one? Or why do they need articles to distinguish?
and sure, you can read about that in a book or see it in a play; but the fact that it has entered the language shows you just how important it is in a way that art cannot. Things that are so intricate to the culture that it entered their form of communication that they use in every day life.
Language is a daily use by everyone in a community. Art is not. Therefore language is a reflection of the population, rather than just the art community's reflection of the population.
It does much more than give us just a name!
Take Japanese for example;
Japanese language does not use articles, either definite or indefinite (the/a) nor does it use plurals. And this aspect of the language is a reflection of their traditional religion (an animistic religion called Shinto) which believed that everything in nature was a god and gods were in evertyhing. They saw all things as equal and all things as one. Therefore if everything is one - then why do they need plurals to indicate more than one? Or why do they need articles to distinguish?
and sure, you can read about that in a book or see it in a play; but the fact that it has entered the language shows you just how important it is in a way that art cannot. Things that are so intricate to the culture that it entered their form of communication that they use in every day life.
Language is a daily use by everyone in a community. Art is not. Therefore language is a reflection of the population, rather than just the art community's reflection of the population.
i would have changed ***** to phallus, and claire to petey Petey
Rougie: but that's what I'm doing here
Arnwyn: what letting me adjust myself in your room?..don't you dare quote that on HoP...
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Seems like language is just a consequence of the true essence of things. Not everybody translate the signs of language. Ususally you just speak without any idea. In fact I agree with you, but think you're quite brutal.
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Seems like language is just a consequence of the true essence of things. Not everybody translate the signs of language. Ususally you just speak without any idea. In fact I agree with you, but think you're quite brutal.
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How am I being brutal? I am supporting the survival of languages! You're the one who says there is "no need" for the small dialects!
How am I being brutal? I am supporting the survival of languages! You're the one who says there is "no need" for the small dialects!
i would have changed ***** to phallus, and claire to petey Petey
Rougie: but that's what I'm doing here
Arnwyn: what letting me adjust myself in your room?..don't you dare quote that on HoP...
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If they are not spoken, then why they need to be saved? Language is a communication service at first. And only then it's a cultural monument. You can save small dialects but just like you save old things in museum
If they are not spoken, then why they need to be saved? Language is a communication service at first. And only then it's a cultural monument. You can save small dialects but just like you save old things in museum
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You still haven't told me why I am brutal for wanting to protect something
I have just been explaining to you why languages should be saved! And why saving language is not like saving things in a museum!
So do you agree with me or not? Because you say you do, but then say something which is the opposite of what I'm saying
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In fact I agree with you, but think you're quite brutal.
You still haven't told me why I am brutal for wanting to protect something
I have just been explaining to you why languages should be saved! And why saving language is not like saving things in a museum!
So do you agree with me or not? Because you say you do, but then say something which is the opposite of what I'm saying
i would have changed ***** to phallus, and claire to petey Petey
Rougie: but that's what I'm doing here
Arnwyn: what letting me adjust myself in your room?..don't you dare quote that on HoP...
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think, that we need to save history and culture, but also think that you pay to much attantion to language.
think, that we need to save history and culture, but also think that you pay to much attantion to language.
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it only sounds like I do because I've been arguing that point for the last 2 nights
Not like I plan on making a career out of language or anything
it only sounds like I do because I've been arguing that point for the last 2 nights
Not like I plan on making a career out of language or anything
i would have changed ***** to phallus, and claire to petey Petey
Rougie: but that's what I'm doing here
Arnwyn: what letting me adjust myself in your room?..don't you dare quote that on HoP...
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))) I've been studying journalistic and languages and i can't tell that i don't like language and don't think about it's destiny
))) I've been studying journalistic and languages and i can't tell that i don't like language and don't think about it's destiny
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You should teach me some Russian sometimes, pretty lady... I'm running into nice people in Goa every year and can hardly communicate more than "Nastrovje", "Doswedanje", "Njet" or "Da"... that's a pretty basic communication... not to speak of my weird accent
However...
to the madhouse 
You should teach me some Russian sometimes, pretty lady... I'm running into nice people in Goa every year and can hardly communicate more than "Nastrovje", "Doswedanje", "Njet" or "Da"... that's a pretty basic communication... not to speak of my weird accent
However...
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)))) think that's not hard to teach u. espesialy if u know the basic material )
)))) think that's not hard to teach u. espesialy if u know the basic material )
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Well apart from what I told you already, my basics don't extend more than: "glasnost", "pravda" and "towarisch"... but thanks for telling me that it wont be hard
giving me hope - I like it...
Well apart from what I told you already, my basics don't extend more than: "glasnost", "pravda" and "towarisch"... but thanks for telling me that it wont be hard
giving me hope - I like it... the best smiles are the ones you lead to