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quote:Current scientific understanding of the Universe is based upon two theories - Einstein's General Relativity and the Standard Model of quantum field theory. Each theory works outstandingly well in its own domain... it's just in the (very) few areas where they need to be combined (black holes, at the Planck scale and the Big Bang) that they fail. In much the same way as Newton's laws have been superceded so will they by a better theory.
Originally posted by Rev:
again I'm not fully up to date speed on some of this stuff.. I took all my math/sci course early since they were easiest.. lol.. but I thought that Einsteins theory of relativity falls short of explaining anything.. I mean don't get me wrong; it's good text book stuff, but it relies on the theory that all energy in the universe has been discovered.. We just haven't put all the peices together.. Hence everything being relative.. This is why Einstien laughed at anyone that brought up quantum mechanics.. "God does not play chance" to quote him.. He also had problems with the probablistic framework that we now use in science... So pardon my ignorance, but since the leaders of the scientific world have now adopted these latter two theories, and since these latter to theories contradict a lot of what Mr. E. said, aren't we backtracking a bit to try an put things in perspective?
quote:How does relativity imply a wave form?
Everything cannot be relative, if there are no absolutes.. This is kinda hard to put in persepctive since relativity, one would think, implies circular, when it doesn't.. It implies a wave form, which is still linear..
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quote:this one hit me like a rock. 2+2= (putting 2 and two together)... the hindus called the expansion, contraction, the universal breathing of i think Brahma or whoever the big kahuna diety is. way before the big bang.
If disorder is constantly increasing, then the universe started as a relatively ordered sphere which popped into existence, expands, and then pulls back out of existence...
Now this kind of sounds like something manifesting in the third dimension from tetraspace doesn't it? Anyway, just a thought.
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quote:No it isn't. Or at least, it can be but it all depends on what parameters you put into it.
Originally posted by Rev:
About the wave form.. Relativity is a cycling over time..
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quote:It's called the Cosmic Microwave Background... here's a picture of it from the COBE satellite:
Originally posted by i8beefy2:
In theory because we are traveling outward we would still be able to see the light from the big bang... which we can, only because we are moving so fast, the wavelength is increased, thus red-shifting it until you get whatever-radiation-is-below-red
quote:Actually one of the biggest problems with theories of a circular universe is that entropy always increases... so each cycle you end up with more entropy than before unless you can come up with some magical way to break the Second Law of Thermodynamics and get rid of all the entropy.
Now this kind of sounds like something manifesting in the third dimension from tetraspace doesn't it? Anyway, just a thought. This kinda should ring true to circular time theory too...
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quote:so electrons don't really exist? then how do tv's work again...? and neutrons? ever seen a nuclear power station?
Originally posted by Rev:
Actually when Einstein discussed quatum mechanics in reference to relativity, he stated that there was no need to beleive in invisible particles smaller then the atom.. He said that everything ahd been discovered and we hadn't put the pieces together yet.. We just need to see everything relative to each other..
Now quantum particles are sub atomic particles.. they are the very things that einstein said does not exist.. and for all intents and purposes don't.. but because we conceive of them, and they work, we tend to accept it and move on..
quote:sorry to be another hole picker but this is a quite bit off dude (he's a confusing fella that mr hawking).
Originally posted by i8beefy2:
Alright, sorry for being away fro so many days, but I had to brush up on my quantum mechanics with a few layman books by Steven Hawking. Anywho, Einstein had a problem with his general theory of relativity. Namely, it failed under certain conditions, known as singularities, like black holes, the big bang, etc. While his theory worked good for explaining forces such as gravity on a large scale, as you shrunk down to atomic levels some of the theory fell apart, especially with singularities where you have infinite space/time with infinite density: an impossibility for general relativity. Now in understanding the big bang, think of it like a balloon, expanding out until the gravitational forces between the particles (which later formed planets, etc.) clumped together and began collapsing back in on itself. Like a black hole. In theory because we are traveling outward we would still be able to see the light from the big bang... which we can, only because we are moving so fast, the wavelength is increased, thus red-shifting it until you get whatever-radiation-is-below-red
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"Moo," said the happy cow.
-Such a price the gods exact for song: to become what we sing
-Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty.
-When the center of the storm does not move, you are in its path.
-Such a price the gods exact for song: to become what we sing
-Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty.
-When the center of the storm does not move, you are in its path.
-As angels debate chance and fate-
i was riding through melbourne on a midget giraffe, things were peachy.
-Such a price the gods exact for song: to become what we sing
-Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty.
-When the center of the storm does not move, you are in its path.
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Very interesting stuff. Self-replicating nano-bots sound both great and slightly scary at the same time - i never understood in chemistry why they labelled the alchemists as 'fools' thinking they could convert lead to gold or anything else. It's all fundamentally the same stuff right.. if you go small enough.
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If disorder is constantly increasing, then the universe started as a relatively ordered sphere which popped into existence, expands, and then pulls back out of existence...
Now this kind of sounds like something manifesting in the third dimension from tetraspace doesn't it? Anyway, just a thought. This kinda should ring true to circular time theory too...
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I just got my crowley books too... Looks like a good few months of reading to comprehend some of this stuff. Reiki: works through time and space right? Now if that was a direct link to tetraspace, this would make sense, as both of these would be infinitely curved back on themselves in tetraspace. Just another thought...
So to make a long story short, I have always thought that there was a link between the forces acting upon this universe (like gravity), the dual nature of light, fusion, etc. Like perhaps light exists in a dual nature because it is the border between our perceived world and tetraspace.
-Such a price the gods exact for song: to become what we sing
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