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how is it that humans being the supposedly highly evolved creatures that we are cant even photosynthesize our own food? we have to run around continually searching for food, whats up with that? i mean really trees can do it why cant we? hehe in case your wondering why the topic im hungry and have run out of snacks
how is it that humans being the supposedly highly evolved creatures that we are cant even photosynthesize our own food? we have to run around continually searching for food, whats up with that? i mean really trees can do it why cant we? hehe in case your wondering why the topic im hungry and have run out of snacks
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if we did photosynthesis we'd all be green
not that green is a bad colour mind you
if we did photosynthesis we'd all be green
not that green is a bad colour mind you
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Well we do photosynthesize a bit - we turn chlorestol in to vitamin D in sunshine.
Anyway, I'd have died from lack of food the way the weather is over here at the moment, so it's a good job we don't.
Well we do photosynthesize a bit - we turn chlorestol in to vitamin D in sunshine.
Anyway, I'd have died from lack of food the way the weather is over here at the moment, so it's a good job we don't.
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In Europe, we can already synthesize photos of the queen's face into pre-forraged food.
its awesome.
Jo
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In Europe, we can already synthesize photos of the queen's face into pre-forraged food.
its awesome.
Jo
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hehe surely its got to be very un british to eat the queen ....
hehe surely its got to be very un british to eat the queen ....
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not if you synthesize her into something more... palletable.
Jo.
not if you synthesize her into something more... palletable.
Jo.
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I think that we're in the middle stages of evolving at the moment.
We've already evolved to have opposable thumbs, which lets us build and use tools - I reckon our next stage of evolution is to use those thumbs and tools to build robots that'll do all our foraging and cooking for us 
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I think that we're in the middle stages of evolving at the moment.
We've already evolved to have opposable thumbs, which lets us build and use tools - I reckon our next stage of evolution is to use those thumbs and tools to build robots that'll do all our foraging and cooking for us
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Chorlophyll comes in green or purple.
Plants don't have to green, it's just the most efficient colour? (I can't quite remember A-Level biology, but it has to be something to do with the sky being blue.)
Chorlophyll comes in green or purple.
Plants don't have to green, it's just the most efficient colour? (I can't quite remember A-Level biology, but it has to be something to do with the sky being blue.)
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They made George W Bush pretzels after he choked on 'em. Unamerican?
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hehe surely its got to be very un british to eat the queen ....
They made George W Bush pretzels after he choked on 'em. Unamerican?
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Screw photosynthesis, how come we didn't get any of the cool evolutionary things. I mean I guess apposable thumbs and large brains are nice, but why can't we have like, acidy spit, or usable tails, I mean come on, can you IMAGINE all the possibilities with a tail that you could spin staff or a third poi with? And why not apposable thumbs on our feet? We gotscrewed man...
Screw photosynthesis, how come we didn't get any of the cool evolutionary things. I mean I guess apposable thumbs and large brains are nice, but why can't we have like, acidy spit, or usable tails, I mean come on, can you IMAGINE all the possibilities with a tail that you could spin staff or a third poi with? And why not apposable thumbs on our feet? We gotscrewed man...
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I would prefer it if humans evolved to look the way we are but have the agility and jumping height of a cat, and that wierd thing they do to squish through bars. Or the coolness of a polar bear - but then wed all be left handed. AOr maybe striped tails liek raccooons?
I would prefer it if humans evolved to look the way we are but have the agility and jumping height of a cat, and that wierd thing they do to squish through bars. Or the coolness of a polar bear - but then wed all be left handed. AOr maybe striped tails liek raccooons?
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Supposedly. The way in which our skeletal structure is lain out between people with a larger muscule bulk than others is a form of evolution from Neanderthal man, which is still on-going. Anyone heare about people who don't get wisdom teeth. Not that they don't get them, but there was no way that they could ever have them?
Supposedly. The way in which our skeletal structure is lain out between people with a larger muscule bulk than others is a form of evolution from Neanderthal man, which is still on-going. Anyone heare about people who don't get wisdom teeth. Not that they don't get them, but there was no way that they could ever have them?
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*Breathes a sigh of relief that this thread is not a right wing religious attack on evolution.*
I like eating. I'm glad I don't have to have my feet stuck in the ground 24 hours a day to have my nitrogen fixed.
*Off to have a biscut.*
*Breathes a sigh of relief that this thread is not a right wing religious attack on evolution.*
I like eating. I'm glad I don't have to have my feet stuck in the ground 24 hours a day to have my nitrogen fixed.
*Off to have a biscut.*
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I have a (very contraversial) theory that humankind is heading for another evolutionart split over the next few centuries.
EDIT - oh yeah this is chat - sorry ignore me if you're here for a chat or are easily offended
IMHO the seeds of an evolutionary split of 'un-natural selection' have been (and are being) sewn.
Seen the film gattaca?
this could occur concurrently on several levels, leading to a global sub-human and 'master' race. Two that stand out are (over simplified for the point):
1. Natural health/wealth selection.
The brightest and best looking tend (ON AVERAGE!) to become the wealthiest and then make babies with other similars. Visa versa (ON AVERAGE)
2. Un-natural 'sperm/egg' selection or genetic intervention
This will happen no matter how much it gets banned.
The wealthiest will be able to garuantee 'excellent' genetics for their offspring somewhere in the world. The un-wealthiest won't be able to afford a tettanus jab or an education.
Long, long term implications:
One race destined to be 'inbred' to extinsion.
One race to be super-intelligent and good looking, with infinite positive and negative associated issues (including no more natural birth - babies head bigger than mummy's pelvis).
One (vastly larger) race of 'mongrels' which will live healthiest.
Jo.
Hope it don't happen.
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I have a (very contraversial) theory that humankind is heading for another evolutionart split over the next few centuries.
EDIT - oh yeah this is chat - sorry ignore me if you're here for a chat or are easily offended
IMHO the seeds of an evolutionary split of 'un-natural selection' have been (and are being) sewn.
Seen the film gattaca?
this could occur concurrently on several levels, leading to a global sub-human and 'master' race. Two that stand out are (over simplified for the point):
1. Natural health/wealth selection.
The brightest and best looking tend (ON AVERAGE!) to become the wealthiest and then make babies with other similars. Visa versa (ON AVERAGE)
2. Un-natural 'sperm/egg' selection or genetic intervention
This will happen no matter how much it gets banned.
The wealthiest will be able to garuantee 'excellent' genetics for their offspring somewhere in the world. The un-wealthiest won't be able to afford a tettanus jab or an education.
Long, long term implications:
One race destined to be 'inbred' to extinsion.
One race to be super-intelligent and good looking, with infinite positive and negative associated issues (including no more natural birth - babies head bigger than mummy's pelvis).
One (vastly larger) race of 'mongrels' which will live healthiest.
Jo.
Hope it don't happen.
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Like the Belgan Blue Cow that has a pelvis too small for its calf to be born without saeserian. Thats mass inbreeding.
Like the Belgan Blue Cow that has a pelvis too small for its calf to be born without saeserian. Thats mass inbreeding.
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Jo, if this were social discussion I would reply to your interesting idea in full...but it's not.
mcp, chlorophyll absorbs blue and red and not green. The light from the sun is mostly red and blue, meaning that the plant can take in most of the energy using the chlorophyll. Something like that anyway, I'll have to look it up again.
Jo, if this were social discussion I would reply to your interesting idea in full...but it's not.
mcp, chlorophyll absorbs blue and red and not green. The light from the sun is mostly red and blue, meaning that the plant can take in most of the energy using the chlorophyll. Something like that anyway, I'll have to look it up again.
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Hmm...
I want to be like wolverine.
Does that count? Can we get metal parts growing out of us?
Jo.
Hmm...
I want to be like wolverine.
Does that count? Can we get metal parts growing out of us?
Jo.
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XD
Do you think mutations, anything like that whether they be Psychicly or physicaly could happen?
XD
Do you think mutations, anything like that whether they be Psychicly or physicaly could happen?
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chloropyll is green
anthocyanins are purple
ratios of the two in the leaf change the colour of the plant
purple bacteria have wierd bacteriochlorophylls that seem to be a law unto themselves (they can do it in the dark I think
)
chlorophyll absorbs red and blue light and so it looks green
so, in conclusion, the grass is not greener on the other side, but it might be purple, and the sky is undoubtedly overcast with a chance of sleet later in the day
Ben - are you sure you haven't just chosen not to photosynthesise?
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Chorlophyll comes in green or purple.
Plants don't have to green, it's just the most efficient colour? (I can't quite remember A-Level biology, but it has to be something to do with the sky being blue.)
chloropyll is green
anthocyanins are purple
ratios of the two in the leaf change the colour of the plant
purple bacteria have wierd bacteriochlorophylls that seem to be a law unto themselves (they can do it in the dark I think
)chlorophyll absorbs red and blue light and so it looks green
so, in conclusion, the grass is not greener on the other side, but it might be purple, and the sky is undoubtedly overcast with a chance of sleet later in the day
Ben - are you sure you haven't just chosen not to photosynthesise?
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They have, can and will, Seraphire.
They have always formed a vital, vital part of the evolutionary process and will continue to do so forever (in fact they will increase imho - see my long post above)
Jo.
PS could definitely plausably include photosynthesis - think of the military aplications - that is where scientists do battle at the forefront of technologies like genetics.
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They have, can and will, Seraphire.
They have always formed a vital, vital part of the evolutionary process and will continue to do so forever (in fact they will increase imho - see my long post above)
Jo.
PS could definitely plausably include photosynthesis - think of the military aplications - that is where scientists do battle at the forefront of technologies like genetics.
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i don't know what you guys are talking about, but i photosynthisize all the time. give me water and turn me towards the sun periodically, will you?
i don't know what you guys are talking about, but i photosynthisize all the time. give me water and turn me towards the sun periodically, will you?
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Photosynthesis is not very efficient if we did photosynthesize all our food we wouldn’t be doing much running around. So we are lazy and let the plants do all the hard work for us. Some of us are even lazier and let other animals convert that stuff into more energy efficient stuff and then eat them
Photosynthesis is not very efficient if we did photosynthesize all our food we wouldn’t be doing much running around. So we are lazy and let the plants do all the hard work for us. Some of us are even lazier and let other animals convert that stuff into more energy efficient stuff and then eat them
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Yeah i agree with Mint
We would be lazy. And green - which isnt so bad.
Yeah i agree with Mint
We would be lazy. And green - which isnt so bad.
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i think that the split will happen as well, i also think that it is going to be enhanced by neural enhancements creating a vast intellectual split whereby if u cant afford the enhancements you simply wont be able to compete. berkley uni have had an interface between neurons and machines for several years now last time i look (hehe back in the undergrad days) it was viable it just needed some minaturisation. professor kevin warwick at reading university has had a direct neural connection made in his median (if memory servers) nerve and has been able to activate devices with his mind and percieve different senses (used infrared to deterect distance while blind folded) its only a matter of time before memory upgrades and other brain augmentations are available. resulting in a vast difference between the haves and have nots
omg your right i actually need to be awake for a substancial amount of time when the sun is up to photosynthesise damn this hard university sleeping till 2 lifestyle
Written by: Jo
IMHO the seeds of an evolutionary split of 'un-natural selection' have been (and are being) sewn.
Seen the film gattaca?
this could occur concurrently on several levels, leading to a global sub-human and 'master' race. Two that stand out are (over simplified for the point):
1. Natural health/wealth selection.
The brightest and best looking tend (ON AVERAGE!) to become the wealthiest and then make babies with other similars. Visa versa (ON AVERAGE)
2. Un-natural 'sperm/egg' selection or genetic intervention
This will happen no matter how much it gets banned.
The wealthiest will be able to garuantee 'excellent' genetics for their offspring somewhere in the world. The un-wealthiest won't be able to afford a tettanus jab or an education.
Long, long term implications:
One race destined to be 'inbred' to extinsion.
One race to be super-intelligent and good looking, with infinite positive and negative associated issues (including no more natural birth - babies head bigger than mummy's pelvis).
One (vastly larger) race of 'mongrels' which will live healthiest.
Jo.
Hope it don't happen.
i think that the split will happen as well, i also think that it is going to be enhanced by neural enhancements creating a vast intellectual split whereby if u cant afford the enhancements you simply wont be able to compete. berkley uni have had an interface between neurons and machines for several years now last time i look (hehe back in the undergrad days) it was viable it just needed some minaturisation. professor kevin warwick at reading university has had a direct neural connection made in his median (if memory servers) nerve and has been able to activate devices with his mind and percieve different senses (used infrared to deterect distance while blind folded) its only a matter of time before memory upgrades and other brain augmentations are available. resulting in a vast difference between the haves and have nots
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Ben - are you sure you haven't just chosen not to photosynthesise?
omg your right i actually need to be awake for a substancial amount of time when the sun is up to photosynthesise damn this hard university sleeping till 2 lifestyle
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oh go on you know you want to im sure the mods will move it once its discussiony enough
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Jo, if this were social discussion I would reply to your interesting idea in full...but it's not.
oh go on you know you want to im sure the mods will move it once its discussiony enough
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I'll chat, Ben. Great topic.
Another thought or two on inncreasing levels of mutation:
We are now exposed to more chemicals, radiation, and genetic tinkering than any species (including human) at any time before.
We can keep almost everyone alive and fertile now with medical technology (partial elimination of 'survival of the fittest')
Different qualities are looked for now in a sexual partner (intelligence/charm/wealth over physical/health genetic strengths)
Jo.
PS. I think the first potentially huge mutation that could - just - about - survive, will be full conscious body control / understanding... there are cases like that cropping up and surviving all the time.
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I'll chat, Ben. Great topic.
Another thought or two on inncreasing levels of mutation:
We are now exposed to more chemicals, radiation, and genetic tinkering than any species (including human) at any time before.
We can keep almost everyone alive and fertile now with medical technology (partial elimination of 'survival of the fittest')
Different qualities are looked for now in a sexual partner (intelligence/charm/wealth over physical/health genetic strengths)
Jo.
PS. I think the first potentially huge mutation that could - just - about - survive, will be full conscious body control / understanding... there are cases like that cropping up and surviving all the time.
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The reason that plants are immotile is because they don't need to move. In order to photosynthesize, you need a large surface area and a rather low caloric requirement. Humans would kind of suck at it. We need to be able to move around to find what we need to eat. Plants don't because they get it by sitting in one spot.
Jo, I am also concerned about the effect of modern medicine on human genes. That said, as we alter our own environment, we will adapt so that we are no longer capable of living "in a state of nature." It's already happened. Our species, since its dawn (and even our ancestors) have relied on tools and fire. Much of our adaptations are not genetic, but cultural. Parents not only pass on the genes required to physically make a human, but also a set of skills required to maintain one. These skills are in no way encoded in our DNA. There is no "fire" gene, although we probably have genes that damp our natural animal fear of fire. There also isn't a "bow-and-arrow" or "plow" gene. As we evolved and advanced, we adapted ourselves to our modified environment.
However, my hope is that somatic gene therapy, while a Pandora's Box, will also solve many of these issues.
The reason that plants are immotile is because they don't need to move. In order to photosynthesize, you need a large surface area and a rather low caloric requirement. Humans would kind of suck at it. We need to be able to move around to find what we need to eat. Plants don't because they get it by sitting in one spot.
Jo, I am also concerned about the effect of modern medicine on human genes. That said, as we alter our own environment, we will adapt so that we are no longer capable of living "in a state of nature." It's already happened. Our species, since its dawn (and even our ancestors) have relied on tools and fire. Much of our adaptations are not genetic, but cultural. Parents not only pass on the genes required to physically make a human, but also a set of skills required to maintain one. These skills are in no way encoded in our DNA. There is no "fire" gene, although we probably have genes that damp our natural animal fear of fire. There also isn't a "bow-and-arrow" or "plow" gene. As we evolved and advanced, we adapted ourselves to our modified environment.
However, my hope is that somatic gene therapy, while a Pandora's Box, will also solve many of these issues.
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Who cares about photosynthesizing... what I wanna know is, WHY the hell do we EAT and BREATHE through the same tubes?? Whose big idea was THAT?! I mean honestly-- we've got these tubes you need to get air through constantly in order to survive, and what do we do with them? We shove GOO in them! And why do we use the same tubes for waste disposal AND reproduction, may I ask you that? Not even just the straight reproduction stuff even, but the sex stuff-- why on earth would males have a G-spot up the back end?? WHY?? Honestly, who comes UP with this stuff? It's BS! All those random genes recombining at random for millions of years landing us with stuff that doesn't even make any damn sense. What the hell are hiccups for anyway? Or how about yawning? Or sneezing? Why do we PUKE when we have viruses, when obviously nothing at all is wrong with our food? Why is it that humans have one of the longest and most dangerous gestation/childrearing processes in the animal kingdom, and yet for some sick reason we're fertile almost all the time? And what's with menstruation anyway? Since when does it make sense for survival to go around dribbling blood all over the place for a week straight? Other animals don't do that! Except maybe horses and dogs, and THEY only do it for a few days a year!! Most animals don't even ovulate again until their current young have grown to a certain size-- but humans can have babies so often it kills them because their body just plain hasn't recovered. Not to mention, an awful lot of animals out there have a built-in option to re-absorb fetuses if their environment is too high-stress or unsuitable for offspring. Humans sure don't get that now do they?!!
We have to cook our food because our digestive system is too weak to protect us from diseases and parasites. We have to put on clothes because we've got no fur to keep us warm or protect us from abrasive surfaces or the sun. We have to build all sorts of crazy things just for shelter and tools to get anything done. As a friend of mine said when we were watching AvP: "...Sometimes it sucks to be soft and pink."
Why were we not built with some kind of automatic overpopulation safety measure? Many animals will eat each other or even throw themselves off cliffs when their populations become too dense. We don't slow down even with all our vaunted intelligence that ought to mean we'd KNOW better. We're about as well-engineered as a virus that always kills its host. It's ridiculous.
Of course the only thing to do is to get off our asses, quit whining and gibbering, and take responsibility for our existence and hit the books for genetic engineering. We've been playing god for a long time, we may as well try to do some GOOD with it. Somebody fix these stupid dual-purpose tubes, for a start!!
Who cares about photosynthesizing... what I wanna know is, WHY the hell do we EAT and BREATHE through the same tubes?? Whose big idea was THAT?! I mean honestly-- we've got these tubes you need to get air through constantly in order to survive, and what do we do with them? We shove GOO in them! And why do we use the same tubes for waste disposal AND reproduction, may I ask you that? Not even just the straight reproduction stuff even, but the sex stuff-- why on earth would males have a G-spot up the back end?? WHY?? Honestly, who comes UP with this stuff? It's BS! All those random genes recombining at random for millions of years landing us with stuff that doesn't even make any damn sense. What the hell are hiccups for anyway? Or how about yawning? Or sneezing? Why do we PUKE when we have viruses, when obviously nothing at all is wrong with our food? Why is it that humans have one of the longest and most dangerous gestation/childrearing processes in the animal kingdom, and yet for some sick reason we're fertile almost all the time? And what's with menstruation anyway? Since when does it make sense for survival to go around dribbling blood all over the place for a week straight? Other animals don't do that! Except maybe horses and dogs, and THEY only do it for a few days a year!! Most animals don't even ovulate again until their current young have grown to a certain size-- but humans can have babies so often it kills them because their body just plain hasn't recovered. Not to mention, an awful lot of animals out there have a built-in option to re-absorb fetuses if their environment is too high-stress or unsuitable for offspring. Humans sure don't get that now do they?!!
We have to cook our food because our digestive system is too weak to protect us from diseases and parasites. We have to put on clothes because we've got no fur to keep us warm or protect us from abrasive surfaces or the sun. We have to build all sorts of crazy things just for shelter and tools to get anything done. As a friend of mine said when we were watching AvP: "...Sometimes it sucks to be soft and pink."
Why were we not built with some kind of automatic overpopulation safety measure? Many animals will eat each other or even throw themselves off cliffs when their populations become too dense. We don't slow down even with all our vaunted intelligence that ought to mean we'd KNOW better. We're about as well-engineered as a virus that always kills its host. It's ridiculous.
Of course the only thing to do is to get off our asses, quit whining and gibbering, and take responsibility for our existence and hit the books for genetic engineering. We've been playing god for a long time, we may as well try to do some GOOD with it. Somebody fix these stupid dual-purpose tubes, for a start!!
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Gnarly, you need to email Lightning for those answes, or go back to College Those questions encompass just about an entire Biology/evolution college course I rekon...
Lightning,
I agree that in the super-super long term Humans will be nigh-on super beings. It is throughout these early and medium term phases that I'm concerned. We're playing with what we don't understand generally in a controled way - but there's always the odd mad scientist or cult...
Jo.
EDIT - answer to your main question is they aren't the same tube, just the same entrance. Do you enjoy your sex life?
EDITED_BY: Jo (1110138007)
Gnarly, you need to email Lightning for those answes, or go back to College
Those questions encompass just about an entire Biology/evolution college course I rekon... Lightning,
I agree that in the super-super long term Humans will be nigh-on super beings. It is throughout these early and medium term phases that I'm concerned. We're playing with what we don't understand generally in a controled way - but there's always the odd mad scientist or cult...
Jo.
EDIT - answer to your main question is they aren't the same tube, just the same entrance. Do you enjoy your sex life?
EDITED_BY: Jo (1110138007)
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I don't care WHAT those nuts try to tell you in school, eating and breathing through the same tubes is plain DUMB, and no number of biology degrees can say otherwise. Tube/entrance, whatever, the same orifice is bad enough, like hell that's anywhere close to sanitary. (and no, I ain't got no sex life, but don't change the subject! )
Oh yeah and then there's the stupid fact that male genitals are all dingly-dangly out the most inconvenient spot ever. Yes yes, I know it's because the sperm have to be kept cool in order to live, but WHY?
Hey, dolphins don't have either of those problems! They don't have to cook their food or build shelters or any of the rest of that crap either-- and they get to spend most of their time just hanging out playing in sunny blue oceans. Who needs photosynthesis?!
I don't care WHAT those nuts try to tell you in school, eating and breathing through the same tubes is plain DUMB, and no number of biology degrees can say otherwise. Tube/entrance, whatever, the same orifice is bad enough, like hell that's anywhere close to sanitary. (and no, I ain't got no sex life, but don't change the subject!
)Oh yeah and then there's the stupid fact that male genitals are all dingly-dangly out the most inconvenient spot ever. Yes yes, I know it's because the sperm have to be kept cool in order to live, but WHY?
Hey, dolphins don't have either of those problems! They don't have to cook their food or build shelters or any of the rest of that crap either-- and they get to spend most of their time just hanging out playing in sunny blue oceans. Who needs photosynthesis?!
"Ours is not to question The Head; it is enough to revel in the ubiquitous inanity of The Head, the unwanted proximity of The Head, the unrelenting HellPresence of The Head, indeed the very UNYIELDING IRRELEVANCE of The Head!" --Revelation X
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The are dingly dangly because otherwise all women would be gay.
Jo.
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The are dingly dangly because otherwise all women would be gay.
Jo.
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