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Classic 90's Fire Dancer... Poi, Staff, Doubles, and Breathing
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Location: South Lake Tahoe, USA
Posted:
A Spinn-off bucket is a way to concerve oil, as well as protect the ground.
It's basicly a paint can with a chain on the wire handle.
After you have douced your poi or staffs, you put them in the spinn-off bucket, an inch or two from the bottom. Holding the bucket chain with your poi/staff, spinn the hell out of them, and the bucket catches all of the oil. This keeps the grownd from getting oiled, and saves you oil for the next show.
You will be surprized at how much oil you save... 
Save the Earth one step at a time.
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PS. With Staffs douce one side, spin off, then douce the other. This keeps oil from dripping down onto your staff wrap/ handle... But you probably already know this
A Spinn-off bucket is a way to concerve oil, as well as protect the ground.
It's basicly a paint can with a chain on the wire handle.
After you have douced your poi or staffs, you put them in the spinn-off bucket, an inch or two from the bottom. Holding the bucket chain with your poi/staff, spinn the hell out of them, and the bucket catches all of the oil. This keeps the grownd from getting oiled, and saves you oil for the next show.
You will be surprized at how much oil you save... Save the Earth one step at a time.
Peace and Blessings,
Fire Spirit
PS. With Staffs douce one side, spin off, then douce the other. This keeps oil from dripping down onto your staff wrap/ handle... But you probably already know this
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Posted:
i saw this in austria
using big rubber gloves you squeeeeze the extra oil out of your equipment. but this way you wont get all the extra off them so you still need to spin them a bit to get them dry before performing. but it works if you don't have a bucket or the time to prepare huge amounts of double staves or... something.
i saw this in austria
using big rubber gloves you squeeeeze the extra oil out of your equipment. but this way you wont get all the extra off them so you still need to spin them a bit to get them dry before performing. but it works if you don't have a bucket or the time to prepare huge amounts of double staves or... something.
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That guy from Reno
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Location: Reno, Nevada USA
That guy from Reno
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Location: Reno, Nevada USA
Posted:
I have a picture of mine but no room to post it in my gallery. Let me know and I'll e-mail it to you. Mine has a rope connected to the handel so you can spin the whole thing like one poi instead of tearing your shoulder off with a bucket handle.
Spin off buckets (or bottle in my case) work great, especially with my 4" loose wrap cathedrals. They soak up more fuel than they are meant to hold.
I have a picture of mine but no room to post it in my gallery. Let me know and I'll e-mail it to you. Mine has a rope connected to the handel so you can spin the whole thing like one poi instead of tearing your shoulder off with a bucket handle.
Spin off buckets (or bottle in my case) work great, especially with my 4" loose wrap cathedrals. They soak up more fuel than they are meant to hold.
Cody Canon
Controlled Burn, Reno Nevada
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Beach bum
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Location: Singapore
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Location: Singapore
Posted:
We use a large powdered juice screw top container. Just cut a hole on top large enough for the handles to get through. Put the poi in, screw it closed and spin until you think it's ready.
We use a large powdered juice screw top container. Just cut a hole on top large enough for the handles to get through. Put the poi in, screw it closed and spin until you think it's ready.
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Posted:
I'll be using one when I get to burning man,
Zero Impact and makes the fuel last longer
I'll be using one when I get to burning man,
Zero Impact and makes the fuel last longer
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Location: Bristol, UK
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Location: Bristol, UK
Posted:
I've used one of these a couple of times, and they're great! You save a lot of fuel and have a lot less mess. Very useful for everyone, essential for any professional, especially for indoor work.
NYC had one at the EJC which was a water bottle with a hole cut in the side for the wicks to go in, then a cut all the way to the neck for the chains to push through so they go through the neck. Dead simple. He's a clever bunny that NYC
I've used one of these a couple of times, and they're great! You save a lot of fuel and have a lot less mess. Very useful for everyone, essential for any professional, especially for indoor work.
NYC had one at the EJC which was a water bottle with a hole cut in the side for the wicks to go in, then a cut all the way to the neck for the chains to push through so they go through the neck. Dead simple. He's a clever bunny that NYC
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Posted:
now thats pimp!
dont pois in the hood have a vid out on the net, in fact soem wee threaed on hop about spin off buckets, and how to use one,a nd how to save fuel?
yes i think they do
now thats pimp!
dont pois in the hood have a vid out on the net, in fact soem wee threaed on hop about spin off buckets, and how to use one,a nd how to save fuel?
yes i think they do
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Posted:
Nick @ the venue.org has some clips poi and staff spin off buckets
Found by clicking right here
Nick @ the venue.org has some clips poi and staff spin off buckets
Found by clicking right here
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stranger
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Location: Arizona, USA
stranger
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Location: Arizona, USA
Posted:
Hmm after about tearing my shoulder with the spinnoff bucket I am looking for alternatives.
Question: When you atttach a rope to the spinoff bucket do you stop the spin with your foot or something. Basically when I did this I stopped spinning off .. the bucket arced up and the fuel came spilling out. So how do you stop that??
Question: What kind of powdered juice container?? I need something big enough for 2.5 inch monkey fist.
Thanks
BooM
Hmm after about tearing my shoulder with the spinnoff bucket I am looking for alternatives.
Question: When you atttach a rope to the spinoff bucket do you stop the spin with your foot or something. Basically when I did this I stopped spinning off .. the bucket arced up and the fuel came spilling out. So how do you stop that??
Question: What kind of powdered juice container?? I need something big enough for 2.5 inch monkey fist.
Thanks
BooM
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That guy from Reno
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Location: Reno, Nevada USA
That guy from Reno
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Location: Reno, Nevada USA
Posted:
Boomer I'll email you pictures when I get home. When you stop the spinning bucket you want to stall it, (stretch your arm out at the bottom of the swing) that way it doesn't hit anything or tip upsidedown. It's a bit of a trick in itself. The container in the picture is big enough for my 4" by 4" cathedrals so they should do the trick.
Boomer I'll email you pictures when I get home. When you stop the spinning bucket you want to stall it, (stretch your arm out at the bottom of the swing) that way it doesn't hit anything or tip upsidedown. It's a bit of a trick in itself. The container in the picture is big enough for my 4" by 4" cathedrals so they should do the trick.
Cody Canon
Controlled Burn, Reno Nevada
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stranger
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Location: Arizona, USA
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Posted:
Sweet..
Look forward to those..
I didn't think I was doing any damage with the bucket.. so I spun off about 5 times with them.... but ohhh the next day.. I could barley spin at all
Duhh stall them. it will take some practice... but hell I have 2 weeks before Burning Man.
the pict will help Im sure. Thanks
BooM
Sweet..
Look forward to those..
I didn't think I was doing any damage with the bucket.. so I spun off about 5 times with them.... but ohhh the next day.. I could barley spin at all
Duhh stall them. it will take some practice... but hell I have 2 weeks before Burning Man.
the pict will help Im sure. Thanks
BooM
Spin cause ya' gotta!!
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That guy from Reno
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Location: Reno, Nevada USA
That guy from Reno
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Location: Reno, Nevada USA
Posted:
I'd email you but I can't find your email address in your profile
If your going to burningman come by the Fire Conclave Convergence camp and ask for me and I'll work with you on your stall if you'd like. Then you can see my spin off bucket in person to get a better idea.
I'd email you but I can't find your email address in your profile
If your going to burningman come by the Fire Conclave Convergence camp and ask for me and I'll work with you on your stall if you'd like. Then you can see my spin off bucket in person to get a better idea.
Cody Canon
Controlled Burn, Reno Nevada
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stranger
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Location: Arizona, USA
stranger
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Location: Arizona, USA
Posted:
Ok.. added the email addy.. sorry about that.
Ill try to look U up at conclave.. but you know how that goes
BòóM
Ok.. added the email addy.. sorry about that.
Ill try to look U up at conclave.. but you know how that goes
BòóM
Spin cause ya' gotta!!
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That guy from Reno
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Location: Reno, Nevada USA
That guy from Reno
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Location: Reno, Nevada USA
Posted:
I just sent it to you Boomer235. If anyone else wants a picture of my spinoff bucket (watter bottle) let me know, I don't have enough room in my gallery for it.
I just sent it to you Boomer235. If anyone else wants a picture of my spinoff bucket (watter bottle) let me know, I don't have enough room in my gallery for it.
Cody Canon
Controlled Burn, Reno Nevada
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Posted:
Hey - I'll put up a picture of my spin off bucket in my gallery tonight. I'm very proud of my bucket(s). We used the plastic jars from teh two gallon bottles of tiki torch fuel, cut the tops, tied string to the handle and voila. We made four, and always bring them to every practice ... I think we've even got other NYers doing it now (see the post re. NYC's spin off bucket above. He stole that from me
Hey - I'll put up a picture of my spin off bucket in my gallery tonight. I'm very proud of my bucket(s). We used the plastic jars from teh two gallon bottles of tiki torch fuel, cut the tops, tied string to the handle and voila. We made four, and always bring them to every practice ... I think we've even got other NYers doing it now (see the post re. NYC's spin off bucket above. He stole that from me
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*bump*
not even remotely as often as I should 
*bump*
not even remotely as often as I should the best smiles are the ones you lead to 
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Posted:
good thing you bumped this tom
I myself do use a spinner offa (coke bottle with the top cut off and rope)
good thing you bumped this tom
I myself do use a spinner offa (coke bottle with the top cut off and rope)
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journeyman
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Location: Wisconsin, USA
journeyman
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Location: Wisconsin, USA
Posted:
I always use a spinoff bucket, not only do you save all that fuel, you also dont get it on the ground, good for the environment and someone wont walk by with a smoke and set the ground on fire.
Very easy way to make one that wont kill your arms when using it:
1. Go to the local hardware store, Home Depot is best if you have one, and buy a small bucket, like a 1/2 to 1 gallon, preferably metal.
2. Buy a dogchain or use some leftover chain from making poi if you do so, some rope can work just as well.
3. Attach bucket handle to chain/rope with a quick link or some key rings (tie it when using rope
).
4. To spin off just hold the chain and your poi at the same time with the poi just inside the bucket, spin spin spin, viola.
I used to just grab a bucket and spin it around while holding my poi but it kills your shoulders..
EDITED_BY: ubersmack (1202265068)
I always use a spinoff bucket, not only do you save all that fuel, you also dont get it on the ground, good for the environment and someone wont walk by with a smoke and set the ground on fire.
Very easy way to make one that wont kill your arms when using it:
1. Go to the local hardware store, Home Depot is best if you have one, and buy a small bucket, like a 1/2 to 1 gallon, preferably metal.
2. Buy a dogchain or use some leftover chain from making poi if you do so, some rope can work just as well.
3. Attach bucket handle to chain/rope with a quick link or some key rings (tie it when using rope
). 4. To spin off just hold the chain and your poi at the same time with the poi just inside the bucket, spin spin spin, viola.
I used to just grab a bucket and spin it around while holding my poi but it kills your shoulders..
EDITED_BY: ubersmack (1202265068)
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Posted:
why is the spin off can always getting mistaken for a dipping can? Anyone having suggestions of "how to clearly mark a spin off can as such"?
why is the spin off can always getting mistaken for a dipping can? Anyone having suggestions of "how to clearly mark a spin off can as such"? the best smiles are the ones you lead to
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journeyman
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Location: Wisconsin, USA
journeyman
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Posted:
sure, clearly paint "spin off can" on the side of it
or get creative and paint some flames on the dip can and say.. water on the spin off can.. people dont wanna dip there wicks in water after all!
*edit* 2 seconds after i read that.. dont put water graphics on the spin off can.. someone starts on fire and sees that can, and throws it on them
just paint spin can on it..
EDITED_BY: ubersmack (1202521866)
Written by: FireTom
sure, clearly paint "spin off can" on the side of it
or get creative and paint some flames on the dip can and say.. water on the spin off can.. people dont wanna dip there wicks in water after all!
*edit* 2 seconds after i read that.. dont put water graphics on the spin off can.. someone starts on fire and sees that can, and throws it on them
just paint spin can on it..
EDITED_BY: ubersmack (1202521866)
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Posted:
firespinners don't read while dipping...
firespinners don't read while dipping...
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Posted:
Okay, isn't the spin of bucket empty, and the dipping can full? So surely that would distinguish the two?
I've never seen a problem there...
Okay, isn't the spin of bucket empty, and the dipping can full? So surely that would distinguish the two?
I've never seen a problem there...
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Posted:
yep - when you use the spin off can, surely you put the fuel back into the dipping bucket....?
a good way to spin off staffs is simply to hold the end that has just been dipped inside the dipping bucket; above the level of the fuel but below the edge, and spin it. (ha! easy misinterpretation - i mean roll it quickly between your hands, like you do to make a burn off, but remaining vertical, in your hands, and inside the bucket!) this gets off as much fuel as a burn off uses, so its pretty considerable....
yep - when you use the spin off can, surely you put the fuel back into the dipping bucket....?
a good way to spin off staffs is simply to hold the end that has just been dipped inside the dipping bucket; above the level of the fuel but below the edge, and spin it. (ha! easy misinterpretation - i mean roll it quickly between your hands, like you do to make a burn off, but remaining vertical, in your hands, and inside the bucket!) this gets off as much fuel as a burn off uses, so its pretty considerable....
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not different, just not the same
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Location: Charlotte, NC, USA
Posted:
that staff spinning-off tip is a great thing to do. Only caution I'd give is don't be like me and not QUITE spin off enough from the first end you dip and then when going to spin off the second side end up splattering fuel in your face... mmmm tastey colemans...
that staff spinning-off tip is a great thing to do. Only caution I'd give is don't be like me and not QUITE spin off enough from the first end you dip and then when going to spin off the second side end up splattering fuel in your face... mmmm tastey colemans...
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Posted:
could have happened to me either.
Whenever I put out a spin off can (even if I announce it to BE a spin off can) coming back I find it filled with Kerosene and ppl dip in it...
Funny though as a spin off bucket is easily distinguished from a dipping can by the rope or string attached to the top.
My guess would be that most ppl never heard of it...
could have happened to me either.Whenever I put out a spin off can (even if I announce it to BE a spin off can) coming back I find it filled with Kerosene and ppl dip in it...
Funny though as a spin off bucket is easily distinguished from a dipping can by the rope or string attached to the top.
My guess would be that most ppl never heard of it...
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Posted:
Nice one! I'd not figured that out.. always just used them for poi...
I make mine out of cut down 3litre heavy plastic fruit juice bottles, burn a wee hole in each side with a hot skewer and tie some twine for a handle. Light, easy and looks very different to a metal dipping bucket!
Written by: bluecat
a good way to spin off staffs is simply to .... roll it quickly between your hands, like you do to make a burn off, but remaining vertical, in your hands, and inside the bucket!)
Nice one! I'd not figured that out.. always just used them for poi...
I make mine out of cut down 3litre heavy plastic fruit juice bottles, burn a wee hole in each side with a hot skewer and tie some twine for a handle. Light, easy and looks very different to a metal dipping bucket!
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Posted:
hmn, if people kept filling my spinning bucket I think I would just abscond with their fuel!
hmn, if people kept filling my spinning bucket I think I would just abscond with their fuel!
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Posted:
haven't thought of that yet... but in this case the problem is that they usually are using MY fuel in MY bucket
Andrea .... who?
But Gabe, ppl pour all available fuel in all available buckets here, no matter whether you paint flowers on them or crossbones... Size doesn't matter either... Damn Hippies and their firetoys....
Even if I explicitly explain and demonstrate what this can is for, they don't keep it in mind... goldfish-memory I call it...
*have to spin fire, h a v e t o s p i n f i r e, *h*a*v*e*t*o*s*p*i*n*F*I*R*E*SO*I*D*I*P*P*O*I*I*N*K*E*R*O*S*E*N*E*P*U*T*K*E*R*O*S*E*N*E*I*N*C*A*N*
some (to me/ remotely) appear like firezombies
*THRILLEEEEER theme*
but maybe that's just because only recently I'm trying to make a spin off can paramount and it doesn't get much response (at all)...
EDITED_BY: FireTom (1202741491)
haven't thought of that yet... but in this case the problem is that they usually are using MY fuel in MY bucket Andrea .... who?
But Gabe, ppl pour all available fuel in all available buckets here, no matter whether you paint flowers on them or crossbones... Size doesn't matter either... Damn Hippies and their firetoys....
Even if I explicitly explain and demonstrate what this can is for, they don't keep it in mind... goldfish-memory I call it...
*have to spin fire, h a v e t o s p i n f i r e, *h*a*v*e*t*o*s*p*i*n*F*I*R*E*SO*I*D*I*P*P*O*I*I*N*K*E*R*O*S*E*N*E*P*U*T*K*E*R*O*S*E*N*E*I*N*C*A*N*
some (to me/ remotely) appear like firezombies
*THRILLEEEEER theme*
but maybe that's just because only recently I'm trying to make a spin off can paramount and it doesn't get much response (at all)...
EDITED_BY: FireTom (1202741491)
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Posted:
I don't know how many times people have complained about me bringing kero to practice and them accidently dipping in kero. Even though the top of my kero gas SAYS what's inside....and i put the lid on after i dip.....spinners dont read while dipping lol.
I liek the staff spin off idea bluecat.
I don't know how many times people have complained about me bringing kero to practice and them accidently dipping in kero. Even though the top of my kero gas SAYS what's inside....and i put the lid on after i dip.....spinners dont read while dipping lol.
I liek the staff spin off idea bluecat.
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Posted:
It says "Kero Gas" on your spin off can?
No wonder....
It says "Kero Gas" on your spin off can?
No wonder.... the best smiles are the ones you lead to
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