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Posted: 29th Nov 2001
uve just confirmed so many stereotypes attached to california and californians. Poi illegal? Im very sorry if this is true. whats happening to the world......------------------Flame on!

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Posted: 29th Nov 2001
I dont think so....i have a friend who was twirling near a mall down near Sac.....a police came by and thought it was cool...wondered how long it took him and how much training he went thru.....i guess he figured he knew what he was doing....

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Posted: 29th Nov 2001
I know that here in Texas, they are cracking down on us using glowstings and poi at parties. Recently a friend of mine went to a party after being invited to spin fire there. He showed up at the party, was told to leave his stuff at the gate, and the cops confiscated it, saying that it was against the new crack house law. Now most of the local clubs won't even let us use glowsticks, let alone spin fire.

Posted: 29th Nov 2001
the only concern that i have had with the police was the actual fire. i have police come by my place at least 20 times a day, and have only had them say to stop one time. as a matter of fact, one night we had four cop cars stopped right in front of us and all they said was cool...BTW where is cardiff?

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Posted: 29th Nov 2001
Near a mall in Sac? I 'm guessing you mean Sacramento. Who? Where and When? It would be nice to know of ther other people around and in Sacramento who do fire..

Posted: 29th Nov 2001
ha ha - "Cardiff is near a mall in Sacramento"!! Cardiff is the capital city of Wales if I'm not wrong.With the glowsticks being confiscated, they are considered to be drug paraphernalia in some US states (as are pacifiers and probably Chupa-Chups!). Silly law to say the least.

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Posted: 29th Nov 2001
Pozee....you are a retard...cardiff is on your way to work everyday..haha....its like just past encinitas. like 10 mins away..

Posted: 29th Nov 2001
"one night we had four cop cars stopped right in front of us and all they said was cool..."hahahah rofl! thats cool dude =)

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Posted: 29th Nov 2001
I had a bit of a problem with a cop at Fiesta Island last month. He saw me spinning and drove up with his lights on so I spun them out really quick. People were giving him a hard time for enforcing the beach alcohol curfew and he was in a bad mood. He got out and asked me what I had. As I started to walk up to show him he said "PUT THOSE DOWN NOW! THOSE ARE WEAPONS!". I was more than happy to comply as I noticed his hand on his gun. He looked to be training a rookie cop and I think that had something to do with why he was being a hard ass. He had a look at my chains and told me it is illegal to have a fire outside a fire ring in the San Diego city limits and that I could either pack up or he could write me a ticket. He didn't seem to have an issue with the chains as weapons once they were on the ground. I haven't bothered to check on what is considered a weapon under the letter of the law but in my experience, things like this are up to the disgression of the officer or in the event of an arrest, the quality of your lawyer.

Posted: 29th Nov 2001
Fire ring?

Meh

Posted: 29th Nov 2001
Well they're actually square. At the beaches in San Diego they put concrete fire pits in the sand but they're called fire rings for some strange reason. Hadn't thought about that till now. It's the only legal public place in the city to have a fire.

Posted: 29th Nov 2001
Can you not simply obey the letter of the law and stand in one to spin. At least when the police are patrolling
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*note to others* This was not a serious suggestion. When did you know me to be serious?

Meh

Posted: 29th Nov 2001
Although quite pointless (since sand is not all that flammable!!) I quite like the idea of those fire rings. When you consider that it is illegal to have a fire on the beach here - it's not too bad as a compromise.There's no fooling us Cantus - that was quite a sensible suggestion. I'm starting to wonder if you are the happy-go-lucky/slightly insane freak (meant in a good way ) that you want us to think you are!!Is there anything stopping you from covering the fire ring in sand and just pretending that it is not a pit, when in actual fact it is??

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Posted: 29th Nov 2001
Is that how I'm seen? Happy go lucky/ slightly insane?I was aiming for well respected, fairly knowledgable free spirit with a wry sense of humour.I'm genuinely quite .....no, I can't think of a word. I think you've rendered me speechless. Or is that typeless?

Meh

Posted: 30th Nov 2001
Bendy,I was talking to Demonthesys "a mall near SAC",Sac is short for Sacramento and he is from Walnut Creek, CA which is about an hour away. I'm not sure where you found your quote - "Cardiff is near a mall in Sacramento"!!Of all things I might be, I'm not an idiot."Ha Ha"Christina

Posted: 30th Nov 2001
Hi.. i live in Chetumal, Quintana Roo, México and here itsn't the poi illegal. The people said was cool.

Posted: 30th Nov 2001
Sorry Nokomis - it was the way I read the posts: pozee's PS says "where is cardiff" then the next bit was yours "near a mall in Sac". I liked it - but I have an odd sense of humour.

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Posted: 30th Nov 2001
dunno about on ur side of the water, but here in the UK (which, btw, is where cardiff is) the law doesnt seem to care much about fire spinning. I was out buking in trafalgar square, which is a big tourist spot int he middle of london, and I was asked to move on, nothing more. I moved on to Leicester square, again, a big tourist spot, and i span there for about an hour with no incident.As far as parks are concerned, ur not allowed to use any fire whatsoever in the royal parks, but u r in commons or normal old parks, dependent upon whether any police or wardens see u as a hazard to others. This has come rom the horses mouth - the policewoman which moved me on from St. James park------------------Flame on!

May your staff spin fast and your poi always miss your balls.

Posted: 30th Nov 2001
The official line for Leicester Square seemed to be "no performance arts on the grass" and at the time I was quite honoured to be considered a performance artist I spun for about an hour *on Nelson's Column* (not as dodgy as it sounds) but no fire, natch.Hyde Park was another matter altogether, we did loads of fire stuff, then the Fire Police (no joke, a red cop car with "Fire Patrol") turned up and watched menacingly so we all got self-concious and spun out.As long as you don't incinerate any of the Queen's Swans, oyu should be able to aviod any long-termm jail sentance, IMO.J------------------'Only ever use the pink kind...'[This message has been edited by Drakien (edited 01 December 2001).]

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Posted: 1st Dec 2001
ok just to let everyone know. pooze read my profile and it says I live in cardiff. Cardiff is a small ass town about one mile away from encintes which is in northcounty sandiego. in california. back to the subject. the cops give us shit for the chain part which is why I posted the post. it could partly be because my boyfriend is a "forth waver" and their looking for a reason to lock him up. but I was just woundering if there was a law that anyone knew of. of course the law that I heard also made wallet chains a fellony too. the cop very well could have been bullshitting us, but I just wanted to make sure.

A beautyschool dropout that spins fire...who would have thought?

Posted: 30th Nov 2001
probably me being stoopid,but what a "forth waver?"------------------Flame on!

May your staff spin fast and your poi always miss your balls.

Posted: 30th Nov 2001
probably me being stoopid, but whats a "forth waver"?------------------Flame on!

May your staff spin fast and your poi always miss your balls.

Posted: 1st Dec 2001
Fourth waiver refers to the fourth amendment to the U.S. constitution. It has to do with your rights against being searched. It can be a condition of parole for felony convictions where you must waive your fourth amendment rights. Many times cops abuse it and search people who aren't doing anything wrong just because they can.

Posted: 1st Dec 2001
poi swinging is kind of illegal here in munich. you are not allowed to use fire in street shows, you are not allowed to use it anywhere! they stopped us from swinging when we were standing next to a lake! it was not even dangerous, nobody was around. the police also takes chains and pois and stuff like that away from the punks on demos and stuff like that. to swing here is not that easy, you see?

Posted: 1st Dec 2001
The big problem with weapons laws or just laws in general is that any numb-nuts moron can sue anyone and win if he has a good lawyer, creating case law. Any "concerned parent" orginization can put pressure on local politicians to get laws passed to support their little fascist agendas, but it takes like an act of congress or God to repeal a law. It adds up. I don't know the legalities of poi in California as I don't live there, but if it's like Colorado you have state laws saying one thing, county laws saying something else and then city laws saying a third thing. It's bloody confusing if you ask me. Just recently here in Denver some one decided you can no longer wear spikes. Many of my friends got posession of deadly weapons tickets for those little pyramid spikes that don't even hurt when you step on them barefoot at 3:00 am, but yet "Smiley's" (a pad lock on a chain for those who don't know) are perfectly legal. So far as I know there are NO laws relating directly to poi, only laws that sort of apply, fire, weapons, ect. I have a friend who practices in his back yard wich is in plain view of the fire department, and so far he has had no problems. I live further north in the suburbs and I get harassed constantly weather my staff is on fire or not. Pretty goddamned stupid if you ask me.

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Posted: 1st Dec 2001
HARSH!!!
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Posted: 2nd Dec 2001
Sorry, Bendy but you upset my beautiful friend and that's no good. Nope, nope, nope!

Meh

Posted: 2nd Dec 2001
yey keep poi illegal!

Posted: 2nd Dec 2001
Outlaw Kanadians (sic).

Meh

Posted: 3rd Dec 2001
Oh my, late in response, but thats quite chivalrous of you Cantus. What would I do without you?Bendy, Seems you've taken quite the beating. Just please, read posts a little more carefully. Suppose we should shake hands on this one. =P