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 I don't concider it a style of dance at all, I concider it a skill which can be combined with dance, much the way tumbling, swords, snakes, bells, hats, etc are all individual skills but combined with dance they move onto a new level.Here is my reasoning, poi can be done without dancing. In fact, I can do poi while hardly moving my body at all, and it is still pretty damn cool to see. I can have my snake go all over my body without dancing, it looks neat. I can make rhythms with my bells. I can tumble. I can do a sword kada. Each one of these things is impressive on it's own and cool to watch for even a short time but none of them require dancing to feel the effect. Mix these with dance and the effect is then heightened.To me to determine something as a dance is like...Ballet, can you do it without dancing? Each move in and of itself can be recognised as Ballet moves. If I move my hips a certain way then you know I learned it Bellydancing change the motions and it is Salsa. If I step in a certain way it's Tap, but if I change it and it is Irish Step or Flamenco. Certain ways of movement are defined in each dance style from the classical to the modern hip-hop and re-defined breakdancing. I can watch someone dancing and know what style it cme from, even if they are doing a two step in sneakers and shoulder shimmies in sweaters. I can dance any of these (some not well) without the shoes or whatever is commonly associated with it and still have it be known what style I am doing. I can not "poi dance"  without the poi and have someone go "Oh yeah, she's poi dancing." It looks like a strange and personal form of whatever dance I am moving from. And all moves we do in a club are derrived or influenced from some style of dance, so even those without traditional training will still be doing established moves, they simply don't know it.  That is what defines and seperates the skills to me. Just like with dance styles there are common traits in poi styles as well. Speed, distance, movement, etc.... help to define these. If you watch a group of people who are together alot they tend to adapt similar (not the same) styles, just like with dance. Watch COL and you can tell who has had martial arts training, who has learned from videos and who is pushing it on their own. It is really interesting to see.I think you can combine poi with physical skills other than dance as well such as tumbling, precision walking (like tightrope/slack rope), stilts and unicycle. While not impossible, it is not dancing then either per se, but a different and wonderful combination of skills. I think mixing and matching skills is what allows us to each explore and develope our own styles and create individual visages of these arts.Just my humble opinion.
I don't concider it a style of dance at all, I concider it a skill which can be combined with dance, much the way tumbling, swords, snakes, bells, hats, etc are all individual skills but combined with dance they move onto a new level.Here is my reasoning, poi can be done without dancing. In fact, I can do poi while hardly moving my body at all, and it is still pretty damn cool to see. I can have my snake go all over my body without dancing, it looks neat. I can make rhythms with my bells. I can tumble. I can do a sword kada. Each one of these things is impressive on it's own and cool to watch for even a short time but none of them require dancing to feel the effect. Mix these with dance and the effect is then heightened.To me to determine something as a dance is like...Ballet, can you do it without dancing? Each move in and of itself can be recognised as Ballet moves. If I move my hips a certain way then you know I learned it Bellydancing change the motions and it is Salsa. If I step in a certain way it's Tap, but if I change it and it is Irish Step or Flamenco. Certain ways of movement are defined in each dance style from the classical to the modern hip-hop and re-defined breakdancing. I can watch someone dancing and know what style it cme from, even if they are doing a two step in sneakers and shoulder shimmies in sweaters. I can dance any of these (some not well) without the shoes or whatever is commonly associated with it and still have it be known what style I am doing. I can not "poi dance"  without the poi and have someone go "Oh yeah, she's poi dancing." It looks like a strange and personal form of whatever dance I am moving from. And all moves we do in a club are derrived or influenced from some style of dance, so even those without traditional training will still be doing established moves, they simply don't know it.  That is what defines and seperates the skills to me. Just like with dance styles there are common traits in poi styles as well. Speed, distance, movement, etc.... help to define these. If you watch a group of people who are together alot they tend to adapt similar (not the same) styles, just like with dance. Watch COL and you can tell who has had martial arts training, who has learned from videos and who is pushing it on their own. It is really interesting to see.I think you can combine poi with physical skills other than dance as well such as tumbling, precision walking (like tightrope/slack rope), stilts and unicycle. While not impossible, it is not dancing then either per se, but a different and wonderful combination of skills. I think mixing and matching skills is what allows us to each explore and develope our own styles and create individual visages of these arts.Just my humble opinion.  ------------------Pele  Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir...https://www.pyromorph.com
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 oi = dance: is incorrect    however:somepoi styles = dance:  is correct.This amy be where some people are getting confused, they are translating the way that they do poi, to mean the way that everyone else does poi.  And if they are poi-dancers (more common than otherwise), then they will automatically disagree with the poi-spinners.When someone says poi, they mean anything to do with using poi, not necessarily just the style you are comparing it too.does this make sense to people??Or not???(All IMHO of course...)------------------Charles (INFERNO)newdolbel@hotmail.comhttps://juggling.co.nz
oi = dance: is incorrect    however:somepoi styles = dance:  is correct.This amy be where some people are getting confused, they are translating the way that they do poi, to mean the way that everyone else does poi.  And if they are poi-dancers (more common than otherwise), then they will automatically disagree with the poi-spinners.When someone says poi, they mean anything to do with using poi, not necessarily just the style you are comparing it too.does this make sense to people??Or not???(All IMHO of course...)------------------Charles (INFERNO)newdolbel@hotmail.comhttps://juggling.co.nz HoP Posting Guidelines
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 I agree Josh, it's all about the fun. ------------------Pele  Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir...https://www.pyromorph.com
I agree Josh, it's all about the fun. ------------------Pele  Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir...https://www.pyromorph.com Pele  
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 I mean.. at least to me it definitely is. I guess there are people who dont move their feet much, and only spin. But me.. the flow of the body in a flowing pattern is what makes it so enjoyable. <-- A dance is the same. Thats my theory anyways
I mean.. at least to me it definitely is. I guess there are people who dont move their feet much, and only spin. But me.. the flow of the body in a flowing pattern is what makes it so enjoyable. <-- A dance is the same. Thats my theory anyways May the fire of God burn its impression on your heart.
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