Forums > Beginner Poi Moves > Thread the needle? a peace of crap.... please read

Posted: 2nd Feb 2002
I use it in a reverse/forward butterfly combo all the time, and it you do it from the side people can see the difference. Plus it adds variety...------------------www.ahh-thepooh.net <>

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Posted: 2nd Feb 2002
I agree the TTN does suck as a move itself. But the concept is quite an important one actually. Anyone with an advanced butterfly will tell you turning butterflys, with whatever hand leading you need to have a full concept of the TTN because the TTN doesn't involve having one hand as a lead. Also, horizontal thread the needles do look good. Gawd, just reread my post... doesn't make sence... someone will understand it out there...------------------[]Dhuong-Vu Truong==== []Dhunky ====

Posted: 2nd Feb 2002
that sounds cool.. how do you do a horizontal TTN?------------------www.ahh-thepooh.net <>

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Posted: 2nd Feb 2002
i get it totaly phunky,well obviously raversurge has a pretty wank oppinion of poi full stop judging by previous threads she has made this evening.well what about a 5 point thread the needle? raver? i take it you have that one dialed to a tee huh? like to eitherside of you, infront, behind your head ,and then behind your back. think that looks crap too? no thats some pretty hard stuff and then to learn it spinning in the opposite direction! go back to your wraps cos you have no interest in poi do you, you just do it to make yourself look good at raves.And if you look at it from different points of view ie: the people you are spinning infront of, are they advanced spinners or general people haveing a good time? if some one is more advanced then certain moves they will distinguish as what looks crap, to me its how you make the TTN look if its smooth and flowing then it isnt a carp move there are so many variations so if you just think a normal TTN is boreing try doing it 5 points!ta for the pointer phunkyPK

Posted: 2nd Feb 2002
and for the fact you have made only 14 posts on this board i dont think you are off to a good start.there is a guy here called malcolm, he is a nice man but dont upset him will you, as some one did only last week.PK

Posted: 2nd Feb 2002
I like thread the needle. I have seen it used in combinations that make it look more impressive than a butterfly. Katinca does a horizontal TTN when lying back on the ground. That looks awesome. [image]https://www.homeofpoi.com/ubb/images/icons/smile.gif">[/image] I don't see how anything can "deserve" to be a move or not.Personally I twirl because I enjoy doing it, not because I want to entertain/impress people with how it looks. If that is what you are after, well TTN looks more interesting from a profile view than a butterfly.

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Posted: 3rd Feb 2002
phunky pretty much said it when he was talking about turning with butterflies, threading the needle can open up some pretty cool things.perhaps raver hasnt learnt to walk yet???plus i think we need to bear in mind that ravern uses glo sticks in clubs, now not wanting to stereotype to much, but it sounds like raver and the exit crew get wickedly hi, go to the club and swing frantically, buzzing hard all the way and tangling themselves up in their strings *just kidding raver*i dont know 'bout anyone else, but i wouldnt feel o.k. poiing in a club, and full credit to the clan who has made it their speciality, but im gonna say it one more time (with feeling too!!) if you dont walk with the poi, you wont discover all those sneaky little twists we all develop and love to claim for our own. and theres not a hell of a lot of room for walking(or poiing) in clubs, maybe thats why raver is focussed on wraps.........boy oh boy raver, your sure not shy about posting your colours to the wall aye? its all good though (i thrive on scandel lol he he TTN useless!!??? the cheek of it lol)

Posted: 3rd Feb 2002
RaverSurge. Just chill out a little bit, please?This board is not a place for calling everything you don't think is worthwhile "a piece of crap".This is a place for socialising in a PLEASANT MANNER, discussing moves and techniques and other fire and spinnig reated topics.If you don't see the relevance of something, then no-one is forcing you to do it. If you want suggestions, like the end of your post asked for, it's just common courtesy and manners to not make jokes like "anybody who likes it should die"Please stop making such whiney annoying posts, as most people will find it hard to actually find your genuine questions hidden amongst all that angst.I'd also like to applaud all the other HoP people for dealing with you in a pleasant and constructive manner, and hopefully showing you the way to be a positive element of this community.(and now, back to the poi talk...0

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Posted: 4th Feb 2002
ahh Thread the Needle but it feels sooo nice to do.and it has so many varients I could play all night.Cousin Louie__________________________________________What i desire is mans red fire to make my dream come true...

Posted: 3rd Feb 2002
actually I did not realize the true potency of a TTN until recently. It can lead to some wicked moves. Actually it should be considered as basic a move as the weave and the butterfly, because it leads to some increadable new moves if you work with it enough. Case-in-point...I started doing a turning TTN where one arm was ALWAYS crossed over the other during the turns, that is a continueouse TTN while turning. So, once I got good at that, then I started doing it without turning. It is hard to explain the movement, but imagine doing a butterfly and then randomly putting one hand behind your head or under your arm and many variations in between, sometimes both hands go behind the body at the same time, or in split time, all while doing a butterfly. I promise this is very difficult to explain, but I did try. And I will be sending in a video for the competition that has this movement in it. A new level of poi has opened up to me in the last two weeks, based on the TTN. Now, the TTN by it's self doen't look very impressive, but the variations that it can lead up to are VERY impressive. So, that is the value of a TTN, it opens up a whole new world of moves. I hope certain people can see that now, and hopefully lay off the crack befor writing posts , that way all that anger doesn't come out ( like this, "ARRR crack!" ) Smoking crack is bad, it makes people angry..Next time try some "happy weed, good happy weed " instead of "angry crack, bad angry crack "Peace out man...Daniel Tyler[This message has been edited by santanatwo (edited 04 February 2002).]

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Posted: 4th Feb 2002
Could you please not write things like please read, and all read, at the begining of your threads. IMO it's annoying, a long the lines of typing in caps. Plus when I click on the thread all I find are insults, and thats even more annoying. If your that good, enter the competition and win some cool stuff. If you would research some old threads, you will find, most of your pissing competitions have already taken place. You might find what you are looking for there. ------------------Nothing good ever comes from hanging out with "normal" people.[This message has been edited by Maelstrom (edited 04 February 2002).]

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Posted: 4th Feb 2002
i dunno.. i always thought the TTN was a sweet move... still do. the butterfly has been the hardest move for me to learn at this point, and once i 'fully' got that and could move it around i got TTN.... it does a kewl spiraling effect heheh anyways yeah... still having problems with rTTN, it just doesn't feel right wulff

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Posted: 5th Feb 2002
SURGE IS ANGRY!!! hahhaha, go surge. hahhah lol you keep making these forums expressing your anger.!!!! THREAD THE NEEDLE IS GHEY. HAHAHAH. but i guess if someone who likes Ghey variety could use it.

Posted: 7th Feb 2002
hmmm... a move that is used for more than 10 seconds sucks, didn't you knew that?anyways, TTN sucks... really... in front of you, but it really looks shines when you do...Over the head TTN!!! try it, ppl will love you

Posted: 8th Feb 2002
Raver, thread the needle is a great move if you're a curvy feeeemale who moves and writes about sensually as she spins. It's great that way as a combination with that alternating-overhead-butterfly thingy-prote

Posted: 9th Feb 2002
protozoa - ANY move is a "great move if you're a curvy feeeemale who moves and writes about sensually as she spins"

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Posted: 9th Feb 2002
FAO yashiro,TTN's that also rock...1:try doing one pointing at the ground and fliping it up above you in one swift move.2:infront then flip behind for a BTB TTN 3:infront to behind the head TTN4:side to side swaping between forwards and reverse TTN'ssome nice moves there and way nice to perform with.PKhttps://uk.geocities.com/poi_in_the_park_sheffield

Posted: 9th Feb 2002
variety! all the way and + Who Doesnt want to know how to do 2 diffrent ways of spinning one move.*tries not to thing of a Woman with absolutly no Curves*

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Posted: 10th Feb 2002
Or try doing an overhead TTN, very slowly (say, 30 rpm) while turning in a circle on your feet. Not exactly RaVeR style, but I think it looks nice.

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Posted: 10th Feb 2002
r4v0rs r0x0rs!------------------[]Dhuong-Vu Truong==== []Dhunky ====

Posted: 11th Feb 2002
I use ttn alot when splitting my butterfly to a horizontal mexican, also, it looks damned good if you are doing a butterfly, lift only one hand and do one behind the back, bring your left to meet your right behind your head, do it behind your head, then repeat in reverse to get it back to the beginning, also when thrown in with a simple butterfly - it adds a change of course, and yes a horizontal, especially btb while lying face down is damned cool------------------~ Tiger, Tiger, burning bright... ~

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Posted: 11th Feb 2002
Well I have some video footage and some nice pics of woody doing TTN. They are from a horizontal plane above the head and look really cool The video is the second one that is called Woody Poi :https://www.bath.ac.uk/~chpmppand the photos are near the bottom of the following link :https://wood2.woodyland.org/pictures/poi/poi_03022002/page.shtmlEnjoy ------------------Mark P (the mad chemist)