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30 posts
Location: Tennessee (U.S.)
30 posts
Location: Tennessee (U.S.)
Posted:
Well, my dad's a carpenter, therefore i have access to LOADS of powertools. I make all my fire equipment and have been trying to come up with new ideas for fire toys. If anyone has any ideas, please do NOT hesitate to tell me. i cant promise you i'll be able to make everything you suggest, but i'll do what i can. feel free to be creative, and/or send me links to exhisting fire toys that i might be able to make.
Well, my dad's a carpenter, therefore i have access to LOADS of powertools. I make all my fire equipment and have been trying to come up with new ideas for fire toys. If anyone has any ideas, please do NOT hesitate to tell me. i cant promise you i'll be able to make everything you suggest, but i'll do what i can. feel free to be creative, and/or send me links to exhisting fire toys that i might be able to make.
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Elusive and Bearded
3,597 posts
Location: Scottsdale, AZ, USA
Elusive and Bearded
3,597 posts
Location: Scottsdale, AZ, USA
Posted:
I saw this cool thing, it was 3 rods coming off of a central hub and you could spin em on yer fingers...possible had a bearing in the middle. It was pretty cool.
I saw this cool thing, it was 3 rods coming off of a central hub and you could spin em on yer fingers...possible had a bearing in the middle. It was pretty cool.
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your friendly neighborhood crack head?
30 posts
Location: Tennessee (U.S.)
30 posts
Location: Tennessee (U.S.)
Posted:
you got a picture or anything?
you got a picture or anything?
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sanguine
382 posts
Location: sur, USA
sanguine
382 posts
Location: sur, USA
Posted:
I think a fully functioning folding fire fan would be excellent. I dont have any pictures, but I'll try to explain my vision:
5 spokes. The center spoke would have the wick straight . The spoke to the left would have an a 1" offset before the wick attachment, so that its sitting on an L. The 2nd spoke to the left would have the same thing but the offset would be larger.
Ditto for the right side, but inverse the direction of the offset.
The idea is that when it is closed, you would have the 5 spokes all flush together and the offsets would give just enough space for the Kevlar wickings to also lay side by side, flush. You would get a large single ball of flame on the end of what appears to be a rectangle of steel rods. Then whip it open to reveal 5 smaller flames all spread out on the fan. Because of the offsets, you would also get a much broader arc base.
The other option would be to offset the spokes entirely from the swivel base. Imagine holding the fan in open position so that you see 5 spokes. When you close it, the two outermost spokes would collapse BEHIND the center spoke and the median spokes would collapse IN FRONT of the center spoke. all 5 wicks when seen from above would be touching, creating a square with 1 in the middle.
this would create a bulkier kind of fan with a kind of alternating spoke pattern rather than all being in-line. On the other hand, it could potentially be a more 3D tool rather than simply being viewed from one ideal vantage point.
As for the handle end, where the pivot point would be, I haven't thought on it well enough to have any good idea about that. The real trick would be creating something that doesnt weigh a ton.
I think a fully functioning folding fire fan would be excellent. I dont have any pictures, but I'll try to explain my vision:
5 spokes. The center spoke would have the wick straight . The spoke to the left would have an a 1" offset before the wick attachment, so that its sitting on an L. The 2nd spoke to the left would have the same thing but the offset would be larger.
Ditto for the right side, but inverse the direction of the offset.
The idea is that when it is closed, you would have the 5 spokes all flush together and the offsets would give just enough space for the Kevlar wickings to also lay side by side, flush. You would get a large single ball of flame on the end of what appears to be a rectangle of steel rods. Then whip it open to reveal 5 smaller flames all spread out on the fan. Because of the offsets, you would also get a much broader arc base.
The other option would be to offset the spokes entirely from the swivel base. Imagine holding the fan in open position so that you see 5 spokes. When you close it, the two outermost spokes would collapse BEHIND the center spoke and the median spokes would collapse IN FRONT of the center spoke. all 5 wicks when seen from above would be touching, creating a square with 1 in the middle.
this would create a bulkier kind of fan with a kind of alternating spoke pattern rather than all being in-line. On the other hand, it could potentially be a more 3D tool rather than simply being viewed from one ideal vantage point.
As for the handle end, where the pivot point would be, I haven't thought on it well enough to have any good idea about that. The real trick would be creating something that doesnt weigh a ton.
"to a man whose only tool is a hammer, the whole world looks like a nail." Abraham Maslow
your friendly neighborhood crack head?
30 posts
Location: Tennessee (U.S.)
30 posts
Location: Tennessee (U.S.)
Posted:
i'll see what i can do. no promises though.
i'll see what i can do. no promises though.
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Location: South Africa
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Poje: You are thinking of the Cerberus. I think it was DarkFyre working on that one.
Anyway, he got the idea from Devil May Cry 3.
Poje: You are thinking of the Cerberus. I think it was DarkFyre working on that one.
Anyway, he got the idea from Devil May Cry 3.
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"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
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Elusive and Bearded
3,597 posts
Location: Scottsdale, AZ, USA
Elusive and Bearded
3,597 posts
Location: Scottsdale, AZ, USA
Posted:
I thought about the cerberus after i posted. But no this is much smaller and more spinny
I thought about the cerberus after i posted. But no this is much smaller and more spinny
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sanguine
382 posts
Location: sur, USA
sanguine
382 posts
Location: sur, USA
Posted:
Originally Posted By: Rayani'll see what i can do. no promises though.
hehe, No worries. Its just an idea and I thought it would be an interesting challenge.
Originally Posted By: Rayani'll see what i can do. no promises though.
hehe, No worries. Its just an idea and I thought it would be an interesting challenge.
"to a man whose only tool is a hammer, the whole world looks like a nail." Abraham Maslow
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Corporate Circus Arts Entertainer
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Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posted:
How about a poi set that can slide down the middle of two interlocking tubes, and lock together, making a single staff or, as a midway point, two flails made by the two half tubes as handles and the poi as the chain ends?
Whatever you do, though, make sure to overengineer it to keep it safe...
How about a poi set that can slide down the middle of two interlocking tubes, and lock together, making a single staff or, as a midway point, two flails made by the two half tubes as handles and the poi as the chain ends?
Whatever you do, though, make sure to overengineer it to keep it safe...
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your friendly neighborhood crack head?
30 posts
Location: Tennessee (U.S.)
30 posts
Location: Tennessee (U.S.)
Posted:
definetly going to have to try this. great idea!
definetly going to have to try this. great idea!
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journeyman
65 posts
Location: USA
journeyman
65 posts
Location: USA
Posted:
Well one of the coolest things I have ever seen was someone took a fly fishing rod and turned it into a fire toy. Basically it worked like a rope dart. A new toy im planning out right now is a Kusarigama or in english a chain sickle. Im going to take the "blade" and wrap it in kevlar and the weight will be a poi head. It should be very similar to rope dart.
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Well one of the coolest things I have ever seen was someone took a fly fishing rod and turned it into a fire toy. Basically it worked like a rope dart. A new toy im planning out right now is a Kusarigama or in english a chain sickle. Im going to take the "blade" and wrap it in kevlar and the weight will be a poi head. It should be very similar to rope dart.
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Location: South Africa
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Location: South Africa
Posted:
I can see some interesting wraps coming out of that.
Good luck!
I can see some interesting wraps coming out of that.
Good luck!
'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland
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Unofficial Chairperson of Squirrel Defense League
4,061 posts
Location: South Africa
Unofficial Chairperson of Squirrel Defense League
4,061 posts
Location: South Africa
Posted:
I can see some interesting wraps coming out of that.
Good luck!
I can see some interesting wraps coming out of that.
Good luck!
'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland
poi and staff teacher south africa
5 posts
Location: margate kzn south africa
5 posts
Location: margate kzn south africa
Posted:
hi ryan we are from south african and have really limited fire equipment
may be you can help ......
we are trying to design the buugeng any tips
love aunty yo poifun and staffun south africa
hi ryan we are from south african and have really limited fire equipment
may be you can help ......
we are trying to design the buugeng any tips
love aunty yo poifun and staffun south africa
aunty yo of the poifun and staffun academy sa.poifun does staff and poi exhibitions in kzn team aged 4 to adult i also manufacture thousands of poi and staff a year as south africa sets alight.but buugeng or s staff that my new personal project.
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Hunting robot foxes
1,046 posts
Location: Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, England (UK)
Hunting robot foxes
1,046 posts
Location: Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, England (UK)
Posted:
Hi aunty_yo.
I have a set of buugeng made by Dai and they really are top quality bits of equipment. In all seriousness it will be much much easier and more cost effective for you to buy from him. He is based in south africa himself so the postage shouldn't even be that steep. It will take you many attempts to create something anywhere near as good. Also, Dai has spent a long time perfecting his design and to have people straight copying it seems a little off.
On the other hand if what you are after is just curved staffs then all you really need is a pipe bender. Get your metal pole, exactly what you would use for a firestaff, draw the curve you want on a big sheet of paper and use the bender to work the pipe into shape. You can then finish the ends however you like.
Good luck with your toy-making adventures!
Hi aunty_yo.
I have a set of buugeng made by Dai and they really are top quality bits of equipment. In all seriousness it will be much much easier and more cost effective for you to buy from him. He is based in south africa himself so the postage shouldn't even be that steep. It will take you many attempts to create something anywhere near as good. Also, Dai has spent a long time perfecting his design and to have people straight copying it seems a little off.
On the other hand if what you are after is just curved staffs then all you really need is a pipe bender. Get your metal pole, exactly what you would use for a firestaff, draw the curve you want on a big sheet of paper and use the bender to work the pipe into shape. You can then finish the ends however you like.
Good luck with your toy-making adventures!
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