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HoP mage and keeper of the fireballs
1,965 posts
Location: Palmerston North, New Zealand
Posted:
Q. What is an Internal / External move?
A. Link your fingers together and then push your hands away from your chest, this is your personal space. An internal move goes through this space while an external move goes around it.
Obvious examples
1 - the weave (external)
2 - the buzzsaw (internal)
Not so clear examples
1 - Hyperloops
2 - Butterfloop (butterfly hyperloop)
3 - Isolation weaves
Just to clarify with a hyperloop I can perform the trick and move it through the internal space or i can move it around the external space either way the trick works but the visual of it can be quite different.
With the butterfloop the trick is usualy seen as an external move and just looks like a butterfly to the untrained eye but if you move the trick into internal space it takes a double helix or infinity like shape.
With isolation weaves the trick apears to share both aspects, external for the weave but internal for the extra isolation beat. This however is probably the weakest exemple since it is both but neither.
My general obsevations about duel moves are that internal varients tend to be more complex to control but visualy stunning.
This is something that I have been experimenting with and I was wondering if anybody else has worked on this kind of stuff. Also if you have found other moves that can be both internal or external let me know.
Q. What is an Internal / External move?
A. Link your fingers together and then push your hands away from your chest, this is your personal space. An internal move goes through this space while an external move goes around it.
Obvious examples
1 - the weave (external)
2 - the buzzsaw (internal)
Not so clear examples
1 - Hyperloops
2 - Butterfloop (butterfly hyperloop)
3 - Isolation weaves
Just to clarify with a hyperloop I can perform the trick and move it through the internal space or i can move it around the external space either way the trick works but the visual of it can be quite different.
With the butterfloop the trick is usualy seen as an external move and just looks like a butterfly to the untrained eye but if you move the trick into internal space it takes a double helix or infinity like shape.
With isolation weaves the trick apears to share both aspects, external for the weave but internal for the extra isolation beat. This however is probably the weakest exemple since it is both but neither.
My general obsevations about duel moves are that internal varients tend to be more complex to control but visualy stunning.
This is something that I have been experimenting with and I was wondering if anybody else has worked on this kind of stuff. Also if you have found other moves that can be both internal or external let me know.
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1 + 1 = 3
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Location: Bristol UK
1 + 1 = 3
3,540 posts
Location: Bristol UK
Posted:
See thread entitled: Inversions, insides, atomics, oh my!!
See thread entitled: Inversions, insides, atomics, oh my!!
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Location: Prague, Czech. Republic
Posted:
One more: [Old link]
lightning,
:R
One more: [Old link]
lightning,
:R
POI THEO(R)IST
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Location: Prague, Czech. Republic
HOP librarian
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Location: Prague, Czech. Republic
Posted:
Well, you will find that inversion, inswing, reversing
and in certain situation hyperloop uses both external
/internal or better inside/outside.
You can find, that with buzzsaw it will cover whole
one hand and one Poi space, known as frame.
lightning,
:R
Well, you will find that inversion, inswing, reversing
and in certain situation hyperloop uses both external
/internal or better inside/outside.
You can find, that with buzzsaw it will cover whole
one hand and one Poi space, known as frame.
lightning,
:R
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Location: Europe,Scotland,Both
Carpal \'Tunnel
3,750 posts
Location: Europe,Scotland,Both
Posted:
my iso weav is fully outsiide... ???
my iso weav is fully outsiide... ???
This is a post by tom, all spelling is deleberate
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HoP mage and keeper of the fireballs
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Location: Palmerston North, New Zealand
HoP mage and keeper of the fireballs
1,965 posts
Location: Palmerston North, New Zealand
Posted:
and so it should be
Inversions and Insides huh?
I had no real idea of what they where be called but those two sound about right
Thanx for the directions
and so it should be
Inversions and Insides huh?
I had no real idea of what they where be called but those two sound about right
Thanx for the directions
May my balls of fire set your balls on fire
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HOP librarian
1,841 posts
Location: Prague, Czech. Republic
HOP librarian
1,841 posts
Location: Prague, Czech. Republic
Posted:
Find a thread mentioned by Limit to Contest.
Yes [Nx?], all right, weave in hands of mine
is fully outside.
lightning,
:R
Find a thread mentioned by Limit to Contest.
Yes [Nx?], all right, weave in hands of mine
is fully outside.
lightning,
:R
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5,300 posts
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Location: everywhere
Posted:
mmm negative space and framing thread is quite tasty too
R
mmm negative space and framing thread is quite tasty too
R
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