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RicheeBRONZE Member
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Posted:
Well, I'd like to explain how to get from Butterfly to Weave and vice
versa.

This is basic spinnig problem, becase Poi keep it's dirrection.
It meen, when you start spinnig both Poi same dirrection, there is
normaly no way to let them spin opposite direction.

Well, we have some fundamental move families, that can help to
bypass it, to change the direction?
Wrap - When you wrap Poi around part of body and recoil, Poi change the direction.
Still - When you stop your Poi there is nothing that can stop you to change the direction of it, different from that you start with.
Pendulum - When you do basic pendulum movement and stay
pendulumin, you have two ways to choose how continue.

light,

:R

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spiralxveteran
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Location: London, UK


Posted:
Two 90 degree plane breaks can do it as well smile

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RicheeBRONZE Member
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Posted:

Yup, wrist wrap from TTN works good smile,
with the wraps you can see that if you do single wrap you can switch
between Weave and BF, but when you do a double wrap whereever,
you change both directions, only forward is now backward.

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RevBRONZE Member
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Location: Apparently lost in my ego, USA


Posted:
you can go straight from one to the other....
pretty smooth to I might add..

just go from a ttn to a cork and a cork to a ttn.. you should be able to take half a ttn into the bottom half of a cork into the other half of the ttn into the bottom of the cork the other way..

what's crazy (imo) is when you kinda merge them.. I can do a butterfly that twists like a corkscrew (and no I don't mean a butterfly corkscrew..) I mean it does the butterfly part wheel plane while doing the corkscrew part... so you end up with the poi spinning up and down (wheel plane) but you rotate your hands doing the floor plane part of the corkscrew twist.. mmmmm yummmy..

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wildgirlnewbie
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Location: Europe


Posted:
Here is another idea which I like to do at times if I dont feel like doing wraps:
Okay if its just from butterfly to weave try this, do butterfly and get with one move a few inch between your wrists. Then pull back STRONG (Its no huge move, just fast and strong, takes no more than 1/2 second). Here you can go into weave immediately. You do not really change direction into opposite its just from in front of you to the side. Depending on which way you did the butterfly you go to forward or backward wave. But watch out for backwards, your wrists have to be further apart before you pull, the poi will come right for your head! Better try with tennis balls or sth soft first wink This move is easier for forward stuff.
Or direct them between your legs from butterfly and start backwards weave from there.

mtbeerGOLD Member
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Location: Charlotte, NC, USA


Posted:
I usually do stall\tap or grab combos. My favorite is an isolated TTN that stalls at 90 degrees in wall plane and I tap one of the heads to change it into an isolated weave. If you do it just right people watching will not see the tap and think you are using sticks. Then you do a few hyperloops to convince them you are actually defying gravity. smile

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DutSILVER Member
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Location: Nashville, TN, USA


Posted:
i made this for another site just now. if it makes sense, you probably already know the move. lol. :




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this is way exxagerated to show the path of the hands. blue is leading over from a 5-beat forward weave but goes up behind the shoulder (wrists stay pressed together) instead of unwrapping around the outside. then as the red trailing hand comes free, carry it up to come down in behind the head/windmill plane while the blue hand passes over your head to come down in the windmill plane behind the opposite shoulder. at this point you've just threaded your body inside and through the poi planes after inverting one hand. if you can keep your wrists together the whole time and snap it quickly to the top (crossed bth forward butterfly) and keep the butterfly from becoming mostly an atomic, it looks uber hott. wink well, not as hott as doing it backwards from OTH butterfly to 5-beat windmill instantly, but this family is about the hottest transition i know...



also any buzzsaw can be pulled straight into a split time butterfly or inverse split time butterfly within the length of a few circles. that should definitely count.



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RicheeBRONZE Member
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Posted:
The pic look crazy smile :R

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mtbeerGOLD Member
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Location: Charlotte, NC, USA


Posted:
Written by: Dut


i made this for another site just now. if it makes sense, you probably already know the move. lol. :




Lol! Watching you spin hurts my brian but your descriptions and diagrams are about to give me an aneurism. ubblol

I think I'll steal that diagram and use it as my avatar. biggrin

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