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NucleopoiBRONZE Member
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Location: Ilkeston, Derbyshire, England

Posted: 21st May 2005
could someone please make a vid on how to do a butterfly waistwrap.i would be much obliged...thank you

animatEdBRONZE Member
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Location: Bristol UK

Posted: 21st May 2005
Hey hun!!

Look in Oli's video thread, and look for sending signals to spaceships. It'll be a few pages in, unless Oli decides to do some editing to his original post.

Anyway, In that Vid, Fluffy Napalm Fairy does some waistwraps with fire, but it's ok cos you can still see what she's doing-ish.

I think that's right, but I dunno as I don't have access to the vid at the mo...

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fluffy napalm fairyCarpal \'Tunnel
3,638 posts
Location: Brum / Dorset / Fairy Land

Posted: 21st May 2005
There is a LOT of butterfly waistwrap-age in Strange Things Happen.

The link is [Old link] it's in the first post...........

It's mostly variations though - 3.18-3.24 is quite clear.

On the fire vid, there's a nice variation at 1 minute, and some clear butterfly waistwraps from 1.23-1.30. They are all done in reverse because I find it a lot more fluid. smile

I will have a look through some other videos to see if I can find some clearer examples for you smile

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Puresockaddict
406 posts
Location: Oxford, UK

Posted: 22nd May 2005

Written by: fluffy napalm fairy

There is a LOT of butterfly waistwrap-age in Strange Things Happen.

The link is [Old link] it's in the first post...........

It's mostly variations though - 3.18-3.24 is quite clear.

On the fire vid, there's a nice variation at 1 minute, and some clear butterfly waistwraps from 1.23-1.30. They are all done in reverse because I find it a lot more fluid.

I will have a look through some other videos to see if I can find some clearer examples for you

Whilst your waist wraps are gorgeous, Fairy, you go in and out of it so fast it's a bit hard to see how you actually do it! biggrin

It'd be nice to see a vid where someone just does nothing but a butterfly waistwrap for a while, so it's clear how it works, much like someone did a while back for behind-the-back waistwraps.

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Cute Little Burning BallBRONZE Member
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Location: Here and There... mostly there., Germany

Posted: 22nd May 2005
i got the hang of it after i saw Strange things happen vid. its pretty clear (and gorgeous) how Fluffy does it.
thanx

im off to train it

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fluffy napalm fairyCarpal \'Tunnel
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Location: Brum / Dorset / Fairy Land

Posted: 22nd May 2005
K. I wish I had a camera! Sorry guys ubbrollsmile

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Puresockaddict
406 posts
Location: Oxford, UK

Posted: 22nd May 2005

Written by: Cute Little Burning Ball

i got the hang of it after i saw Strange things happen vid. its pretty clear (and gorgeous) how Fluffy does it.
thanx

im off to train it

*Shakes fist* Daaamn you and your learning! biggrin

I'll figure it out soon enough, I'm sure. It is quite clear in the fire vid but it's just not working for me. I'll hassle people to teach me next time I'm out, I guess smile

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Disc0annoying boy
160 posts
Location: Sweden

Posted: 22nd May 2005
i woul dbe happy if i even understand the defenition of it. and first the term "waistwrap".... and what differ the waistwrap from a full waistwrap. or the BTB waistwrap? :O

have i misunderstood something if i say that a BTB waeve in wall plane with 180 turn and back, without moving feet is a kind of waistwrap. (tradgic description... but it sounded so nice in my head when i thought of it in that way frown

)

ok.. i'll check wikipoidia and see if i understand something...

cheers

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fluffy napalm fairyCarpal \'Tunnel
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Location: Brum / Dorset / Fairy Land

Posted: 22nd May 2005
disc - you almost gottit, but the thing that characterises a waistwrap is the 'carry'. This results in missing beats from your two joined wallplane btb weaves!

there should be plenty of threads about with a good description if you do a search smile

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Puresockaddict
406 posts
Location: Oxford, UK

Posted: 22nd May 2005
I found this thread again:

[Old link]

Look for Orbit's post down the thread a bit with 2 links in - 2 versions of the btb waistwrap tutorial vid, which was so very very helpful in helping me work out what it was. Hope it helps you!

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fluffy napalm fairyCarpal \'Tunnel
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Location: Brum / Dorset / Fairy Land

Posted: 23rd May 2005
OK people - I made a vid tonight.

It shows a simple butterfly waistwrap (with a complete cycle in slow motion).
A turning butterfly waistwrap (in both directions).
A turning butterfly waistwrap variation (in both directions).

It should be uploaded tomorrow night if someone tells me where to put it?

I hope this isn't too late smile

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NucleopoiBRONZE Member
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Location: Ilkeston, Derbyshire, England

Posted: 23rd May 2005
thank you so much!
your fantastic!
will it go on poiinthepark.net?

fluffy napalm fairyCarpal \'Tunnel
3,638 posts
Location: Brum / Dorset / Fairy Land

Posted: 23rd May 2005
Either there or Soton. smile

It depends how big it is (I'm not in charge - a handy juggler came to rescue)

Is Poiinthepark even up at the moment? I can't get it to load...........

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fluffy napalm fairyCarpal \'Tunnel
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Location: Brum / Dorset / Fairy Land

Posted: 23rd May 2005
ok strike that it'll be on Poiinthepark biggrin

But not til tomorrow night.

Hope that's ok.

smile

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NucleopoiBRONZE Member
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Location: Ilkeston, Derbyshire, England

Posted: 23rd May 2005
thats fine.

thanks

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Disc0annoying boy
160 posts
Location: Sweden

Posted: 23rd May 2005
hmm.. i _think_ i got it now. but still... i long for fluffs vid smile

bring it on!

fire is just light and heat.
it's you friend!

Puresockaddict
406 posts
Location: Oxford, UK

Posted: 24th May 2005
Awesome Fluff, thank yooooo! biggrin

*waits for vidyo*

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fluffy napalm fairyCarpal \'Tunnel
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Location: Brum / Dorset / Fairy Land

Posted: 26th May 2005
vid is up -

It's a bit rough sorry I'm really busy at the moment smile

(and very tired as you can see.......)
EDITED_BY: fluffy napalm fairy (1117191576)

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Mr ChutneySILVER Member
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Location: Bristol,UK

Posted: 26th May 2005
THAAAAAANKYOOOOOOOU!!!!

That is by far one of the most helpful things I've seen all month:D

You're a star

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fluffy napalm fairyCarpal \'Tunnel
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Location: Brum / Dorset / Fairy Land

Posted: 26th May 2005
oh and it's the one that says 'ros btb butterfly' smile

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fluffy napalm fairyCarpal \'Tunnel
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Location: Brum / Dorset / Fairy Land

Posted: 26th May 2005
no probs - sorry I look such a miserable state. I'm a bit tired and stuff at the moment shrug

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Mr ChutneySILVER Member
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Location: Bristol,UK

Posted: 26th May 2005
A miserable state?

You looked lovely and spun beautifully biggrin

Cute Little Burning BallBRONZE Member
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Location: Here and There... mostly there., Germany

Posted: 27th May 2005
Very nice of you to post that request video
thanx a lot for the insight

off to practice...

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colemanSILVER Member
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Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay, United Kingdom

Posted: 27th May 2005
a really nice clear video - wicked biggrin

and a website with random juggling videos too - i don't know who your friend is ros, but his 5 club cascade is looking lovely smile

cole. x

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fluffy napalm fairyCarpal \'Tunnel
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Location: Brum / Dorset / Fairy Land

Posted: 27th May 2005
erm that's nick smile

he's lovely and very funny smile

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Puresockaddict
406 posts
Location: Oxford, UK

Posted: 27th May 2005
You don't look miserable at all! Thanks so much Ros, you're ace biggrin

Just wish I had more time to practice - damn all this revision...

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OrbitSILVER Member
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Location: USA

Posted: 27th May 2005
Ros,

I hope you don't mind, I've put it on my server space (Thanks Heath!) so that your bandwidth won't be overloaded.

https://orbit.harm.org/Spinning/FluffyNapalmFairy/ros_btb%20butterfly.mpeg

Orbit

OrbitSILVER Member
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Location: USA

Posted: 27th May 2005
I've actually struggled for ages trying to learn butterfly waistwrap... and now I realize I was doing loads of things wrong. Still not sure I have the flexibility, but I'm working on it. I've effectively been cheating and doing what I suppose might be a wrap-around waist-level mexican wave (but only on the left side - right side's been a struggle)... being able to watch the hand positions totally helps.

thanks Ros!

Orbit

fluffy napalm fairyCarpal \'Tunnel
3,638 posts
Location: Brum / Dorset / Fairy Land

Posted: 27th May 2005
cheers mucho orvit - I've taken down the other link so nick doesn't get cross! biggrin

I am not certain if the hand position is the best/right but it seems to work. While you are learning there are a few thing that will make it easier:

1) Learn with one hand first
(this will do 3 beats in total, one in front, one behind, and one all the way round in front again, then back to the start without an extra beat added.
2) The hand that is not doing this pattern should continue to spin in front of you and wait for the other hand to join it.
3) Reach Up. The closer your hand is to your bra strap (boys go borrow a bra and you'll understand.....) the more space there is to move. Do not be tempted to drop your 'reaching' hand down by your hip as this will make it harder to learn.
4) I find this easiest from a Reverse butterfly (as in the vid) and athough this is a personal opinion, most people seem to agree

happy waistwrapping smile

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Bender_the_OffenderGOLD Member
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Location: Melbourne, Australia

Posted: 27th May 2005
^^ i needed a post like that - my poi waistwraps are more rubbish than my personal hygeine.
the synchronisation is all over the kit. thanks mate!

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colemanSILVER Member
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Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay, United Kingdom

Posted: 27th May 2005
i do 2 & 3 slightly different but i reckon if i want to say how, i should put myself out and make a video first, and since that is very unlikely, i will say nothing wink

number 3 and 4 are sterling pieces of advice and should help tonnes.

cole. x

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i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
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