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and the classic follow up to that phrase....the chicken or the egg? feel free to add your own Qs!!
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i was going to ask that
different standpoint on darwinian/creationism theories:
what if both were/are true? 'god creates man and woman in his image'. who's to say that apes arent god's image?
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I think that the evidence against that is fairly straightforward and clear in genesis. Besides when Adam and Eve ate the fruit they realised they were naked.
I've never seen a chimp that was worried about someone staring at his bits.
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what came first?
The fag or the smoker?
The joke or the answer?
but what i was really going to say was:
what colour does a colour blind person see, do they see the grass red as they are colouring it in red or do they see it as green, and do they even know what colour they are seeing it? how could they ever tell
the orange colour must have come first, as orangatangs are orange, so the word orange must have exsisted then for them to be named after it
and also i think that oranges only came about recently, i think maybe from america-a new country( in terms of A D)
whereas the word is the same in french and probably other languages which it originated from ?
your guess is as good as mine
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i think they were both put here at the same time, just to confuse people later in life
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Well any well-versed biologist should have a decent understanding of the fossil record, and according to the available evidence, the amniotic egg evolved in reptiles millions of years before the existence of any bird-like organism. Therefore, egg. Of course, everybody knows that chickens are a genetically engineered alien race plotting the downfall of mankind, and actually reproduce through a form of cloning bequeathed to them by the chicken overlords (which ironically, are reptiles). Eggs are just a diversion to make us simple hominids believe that we are eating their young.
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Let's bump the question up a notch:
Is an egg a chicken's way of making another chicken? Or...
...Is a chicken an egg's way of making another egg?
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oh no! it's like a global domination plot!!!
i would have changed ***** to phallus, and claire to petey Petey
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Wyle, chickens are harmless.
I believe you are mistaking chickens for mice. Refer to Douglas Adams if unclear...
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I think man created god in his image...
Oh, and chickens are NOT harmless, they ARE evil and plotting for world domination!
btw: what came first? The chicken or the cock?
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I think that the evidence against that is fairly straightforward and clear in genesis. Besides when Adam and Eve ate the fruit they realised they were naked.
I've never seen a chimp that was worried about someone staring at his bits.
I once heard an interesting idea that the forbidden fruit was not an apple, but meat. God commanded that adam and eve would be vegitarians. Only until after the flood did he give permission to allow noah (or possible man i cant remeber) permission to eat any living creature on earth.
That makes much more sense to me though, because everyone know bacon tastes much nicer than rubbish apples lol
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I think man created god in his image...
btw: what came first? The chicken or the cock?
Don't wanna get cocky, but it's a question that needs some pondering... a non-chick naturally can't mutate into a chick, therefore the egg must have been first as a result of a mutation in the non-chicks womb. When or where did the cock come from? The heck or what the? It matters...
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btw: what came first? The chicken or the cock?
I'm chicken when it comes to cock...
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well humans all start off as girls in the womb and then after a while they stay that way or change to male so if chickens are like us then definately the chicken (from a creationism point of veiw chickens came a day before a cock
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A chicken and an egg are lying in bed. The egg has a decidedly grumpy look on his face while the chicken sleeps peacefully.
"Welp, we sure answered that question!"
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well humans all start off as girls in the womb and then after a while they stay that way or change to male so if chickens are like us then definately the chicken (from a creationism point of veiw chickens came a day before a cock
So when does that X chromosome change to a Y? I'm just kidding of course. The gender of a person can be determined as soon as it exists. Don't you recall in Gattica, where they were looking at the little embryonic boys and girls under the microscope, deciding which one to implant in the mother's womb?
What really puzzles me is why you would think that from a creationist point of view chickens would have come a day before roosters. The Bible says nothing about whether Cocks and Chickens were created at different times, and I am aware of no creationist who has suggested that they were.
I think the creationist answer has been accurately stated. Just as Adam and Eve were made fully grown, and not as embryos, so the first chickens and roosters (or their evolutionary predecessors) were probably made as adults, not eggs. Otherwise, their would have been nothing to sit on them til they hatched.
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Yer both right.
Poier : The sex is determined at the moment of DNA combination
Patriarch : We still start off female (Or neuter - Decide for yourself) until about the 2nd trimester or something. Doc'll know... Thats why men have nipples
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Patriarch : We still start off female (Or neuter - Decide for yourself) until about the 2nd trimester or something. Doc'll know... Thats why men have nipples
We sort of start as both/neither. The structures that will form the genitalia develop around 12-14 weeks and differentiate into the gonads and reproductive structures. Men have nipples because it's genetically simpler to just leave the formation in place than to somehow magically switch it off. Interestingly, sometimes baby boys can leak a little fluid from their nipples as a result of maternal hormonal effects.
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I started researching it, and it appears that the best way to think of humans as not having "male" and "female" body parts. Rather, we all get the same parts which are triggered to develop in "male" or "female" ways. Thus, we both get lungs and a voicebox, and our gender tells those organs to develop in a male or female way.
Thus, nipples are not "female"... they are human. That structure is then told to develop in a "male" or "female" way.
Without becoming to graphic, this seems to be true even when it comes to our genitals. We do not have "male" or "female" parts. Rather, both sexes have parts that develop in different ways.
This seemed weird at first, but the more I read and think about it the more it makes sense. I am not merely male because I have male genitals. I also have male arms, a male face, a male voice, etc. None of these things are truly exclusive to my gender. They are the same things that females have, they have just developed in different ways.
Of course, the easy way to distinguish gender is in that area with the biggest difference in development. Still, I do not know whether it is correct to say even that we start of nueter. Merely because the sexual difference are not fully expressed in a way that can be easilly seen does not mean that we are not male or female... we are simply at a low stage of development.
When we are only a few cells, we are not easilly distinguishable from other animals. However, we are still humans. Similarly, thought you can't easilly see the structures, it seems more proper to call us male and female than nueter.
Oddly, you could perhaps even call us "blonde" or "brunette" or whatever other hair color we are destined to have... before we even have hair. In other words, we have a hair color... you just can't see it yet.
The fetal hermaphrodite theory was, according to wikipedia, held by Freud. Like many of his ideas, it was apparently proven to be untrue. I'm gonna have to put that one in the same box as the debunked theories that embryos had gills and tails.
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The egg, and the can...maybe a canned egg?
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I saw the best birthday card that answered that question. Both a chicken and an egg are lying in bed, the chicken is looking irritated and the egg had a cigarette in its mouth, hands behind its head...and the chicken had a caption saying 'well, i guess that finally answers our question!'
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my 5 year old nephew said the chicken because if someone saw the egg they would eat it
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Theres a whole island out in the Pacific, where everyone born is female, then about half turn into males at puberty.
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what is the point of nipples on a man?
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