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been thinking about this for a while. and ive not heard talk of it. ill try and explain this with a few badly drawn pictures.
all the pictures are with one poi and one hand only.
ok the basic plan is to generate a figure of 8 pattern, so the poi spins a circle one way and a circle the other way touching it...
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like in this picture.^^
notice the center of the circles which is your hand has to move.
i think it would be possible to create this pattern in the following way:
start by spinning the poi like this.
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so you just spin half a circle perfectly normally.
when the poi reaches the top of the circle you have to start thinking about moving your hand.
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you have to go from the position on the left (in the above picture) to the position on the right, this is the tricky bit. the arrows indicate the direction the poi is moving.
i think there are possibly two ways of changing between these to positions.
1. by moving your hand over the top of the poi:
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2. by moving your hand underneath the poi:
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i think it would be easier to do the underneath one as youre kinda moving with the poi then, but im not sure. both movements would be weird isolationy type movements me thinks..
once youve done the tricky bit, youll notice youve gone from poi spinning clockwise to poi spinning anticlockwise, (no stalls !!)
then you have an easy bit.
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when the poi reaches the top of the circle, you have to do the tricky bit again, and youll end up back where you started.
obviously you can do this the other way around. but then the tricky bits would need to happen with the poi travelling 'uphill' which i think wuld be harder, as i think the poi would tend to loose momentum.
you could do it so the circles are on top of one another too
you could do it with two poi in split time.
hope thats all made sense.
needless to say, i cant do any of this. i was wondering if anyone else could, or if people had thought about this before.. so what do you all think? is it possible?
o yea. its quite easy horizontally with one poi, and weird with two horizontally.
been thinking about this for a while. and ive not heard talk of it. ill try and explain this with a few badly drawn pictures.
all the pictures are with one poi and one hand only.
ok the basic plan is to generate a figure of 8 pattern, so the poi spins a circle one way and a circle the other way touching it...
Non-Https Image Link
like in this picture.^^
notice the center of the circles which is your hand has to move.
i think it would be possible to create this pattern in the following way:
start by spinning the poi like this.
Non-Https Image Link
so you just spin half a circle perfectly normally.
when the poi reaches the top of the circle you have to start thinking about moving your hand.
Non-Https Image Link
you have to go from the position on the left (in the above picture) to the position on the right, this is the tricky bit. the arrows indicate the direction the poi is moving.
i think there are possibly two ways of changing between these to positions.
1. by moving your hand over the top of the poi:
Non-Https Image Link
2. by moving your hand underneath the poi:
Non-Https Image Link
i think it would be easier to do the underneath one as youre kinda moving with the poi then, but im not sure. both movements would be weird isolationy type movements me thinks..
once youve done the tricky bit, youll notice youve gone from poi spinning clockwise to poi spinning anticlockwise, (no stalls !!)
then you have an easy bit.
Non-Https Image Link
when the poi reaches the top of the circle, you have to do the tricky bit again, and youll end up back where you started.
obviously you can do this the other way around. but then the tricky bits would need to happen with the poi travelling 'uphill' which i think wuld be harder, as i think the poi would tend to loose momentum.
you could do it so the circles are on top of one another too
you could do it with two poi in split time.
hope thats all made sense.
needless to say, i cant do any of this. i was wondering if anyone else could, or if people had thought about this before.. so what do you all think? is it possible?
o yea. its quite easy horizontally with one poi, and weird with two horizontally.
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I see what you're getting at.
Actually achieving this, however, is a completely different story, but the possibility for a whole new set of moves!
If nothing else, doing it with both hands would make for a crazy looking butterfly variation!
I see what you're getting at.
Actually achieving this, however, is a completely different story, but the possibility for a whole new set of moves!
If nothing else, doing it with both hands would make for a crazy looking butterfly variation!
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i thought it be more weaving looking myself... as both poi would be going the same way, and kinda chasing each other around..
although i suppose you could probably.. if all this is doable.. do it wth poi going different ways like a butterfly.
i thought it be more weaving looking myself... as both poi would be going the same way, and kinda chasing each other around..
although i suppose you could probably.. if all this is doable.. do it wth poi going different ways like a butterfly.
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hmm sounds interesting... I read it before but it didn't make much sense, now it does and i'm going to have fun trying
hmm sounds interesting... I read it before but it didn't make much sense, now it does and i'm going to have fun trying
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I've seen coleman talk about this before.. I think his were one on top of the other.. a means of changing direction of the poi in the same plane using an S.. but its been a while... I don't think he was so preoccupied with the perfection of the circles..
you can do the over method rather easily.. it takes a while to get the isolation type path of the hand from A to b during the quarter rotation from 12 to 3 (9 on the second circle)
now as for doing this with two hands.. and keeping perfect circles.. bah.. mycontrol isn't that good nor my planes that straight hehehe.. g/l sounds like fun..
I've seen coleman talk about this before.. I think his were one on top of the other.. a means of changing direction of the poi in the same plane using an S.. but its been a while... I don't think he was so preoccupied with the perfection of the circles..
you can do the over method rather easily.. it takes a while to get the isolation type path of the hand from A to b during the quarter rotation from 12 to 3 (9 on the second circle)
now as for doing this with two hands.. and keeping perfect circles.. bah.. mycontrol isn't that good nor my planes that straight hehehe.. g/l sounds like fun..
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I had a bit of a play with this idea this afternoon, and its even more complicated than I though it looked!!!
I think you need to be spinning really slowly in order to be able to move your hands to the right places - it looks sort of like a cross between an isolation and a stall!
more fun to be had methinks!!!
I had a bit of a play with this idea this afternoon, and its even more complicated than I though it looked!!!
I think you need to be spinning really slowly in order to be able to move your hands to the right places - it looks sort of like a cross between an isolation and a stall!
more fun to be had methinks!!!
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it should look fairly isolationy. but ideally the poi head should carry on with no stalling involved, thats the hard bit.
i tried to do them a bit when i first came up with the idea, and realised it wasnt really gonna happen. so i gave up and decided to see if anyone else was doing them...
i can just about kinda do an downwards S like rev was talking about to reverse the poi.. but even that isnt quite right.
it should look fairly isolationy. but ideally the poi head should carry on with no stalling involved, thats the hard bit.
i tried to do them a bit when i first came up with the idea, and realised it wasnt really gonna happen. so i gave up and decided to see if anyone else was doing them...
i can just about kinda do an downwards S like rev was talking about to reverse the poi.. but even that isnt quite right.
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Hiya Oli.....thanks for this! I've been trying it and can get it much better going upwards than downwards but it's still hard as [censored]! Horizontal plane ain't too bad tho and you can folow into a waistwrap or release too
I hope you get these nailed for Falmouth so you can show us all
Hiya Oli.....thanks for this! I've been trying it and can get it much better going upwards than downwards but it's still hard as [censored]! Horizontal plane ain't too bad tho and you can folow into a waistwrap or release too
I hope you get these nailed for Falmouth so you can show us all
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Isnt this kind of just like a two beat seperation in anti spin mode? I think Nick does them in Dervishly Yers.
Isnt this kind of just like a two beat seperation in anti spin mode? I think Nick does them in Dervishly Yers.
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icon - dont think so, its just one hand with one poi, so not much to be separated..
bug - im not hopeful about getting this sorted in two weeks... but i suppose ill ha to try
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icon - dont think so, its just one hand with one poi, so not much to be separated..
bug - im not hopeful about getting this sorted in two weeks... but i suppose ill ha to try
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damn straight you better!
damn straight you better!
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Posted:
I understand that the diagram you drew up is for one poi... But when youre spinning poi, youre holding two so I was assuming you are doing this move with both at the same time, in which case, it would be a seperation.
Im fairly certain its done in Dervishly Yers. I suggest downloading it if you dont have it already.
I understand that the diagram you drew up is for one poi... But when youre spinning poi, youre holding two so I was assuming you are doing this move with both at the same time, in which case, it would be a seperation.
Im fairly certain its done in Dervishly Yers. I suggest downloading it if you dont have it already.
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yep to me this looks like one hand of 'forwards poi reverse hands flowers'
a lurvely manoover. i'll show yuo at glasto C. Bug...
yep to me this looks like one hand of 'forwards poi reverse hands flowers'
a lurvely manoover. i'll show yuo at glasto C. Bug...
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icon - where can i download it from?
and
bluecat - pleese show me too
icon - where can i download it from?
and
bluecat - pleese show me too
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I've been trying it again this morning and now it seems to have gotten harder!! Maybe I should just use my imaginary poi cuz then they work everytime guaranteed. Much like my invisible poi
I've been trying it again this morning and now it seems to have gotten harder!! Maybe I should just use my imaginary poi cuz then they work everytime guaranteed. Much like my invisible poi
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this is different to flowers.
in this move the direction of the poi relative to the hand changes - that doesn't happen in flowers.
this is like a taking the weight off method of changing direction.
and its really, really hard.
getting this move smooth is a complete bitch and will involve having super fast, accurate hands (if you want string tension all the way through).
the main problem is the distance your hand has to move - a quick glance at the diagram above shows you would need to move your hand from where it starts to another point, the distance between them being equal to the length of your poi.
if you move in a curve, that even further and you have to make the whole movement in the time it takes for the poi to spin a quarter of a circle.
you could do it with floppy string for the transition (hand moving) part of it which would mean you could use a shorter curve to get your hand where its going
but to keep the poi head moving in two perfect circles while losing string tension is almost impossible.
if anyone ever gets this down smooth please show me!
and if you can do it with both hands at the same time, i'll give up poi right then and there
this is different to flowers.
in this move the direction of the poi relative to the hand changes - that doesn't happen in flowers.
this is like a taking the weight off method of changing direction.
and its really, really hard.
getting this move smooth is a complete bitch and will involve having super fast, accurate hands (if you want string tension all the way through).
the main problem is the distance your hand has to move - a quick glance at the diagram above shows you would need to move your hand from where it starts to another point, the distance between them being equal to the length of your poi.
if you move in a curve, that even further and you have to make the whole movement in the time it takes for the poi to spin a quarter of a circle.
you could do it with floppy string for the transition (hand moving) part of it which would mean you could use a shorter curve to get your hand where its going
but to keep the poi head moving in two perfect circles while losing string tension is almost impossible.
if anyone ever gets this down smooth please show me!
and if you can do it with both hands at the same time, i'll give up poi right then and there
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ah.
ok. i understand now.
off to practise.
ciao
x
ah.
ok. i understand now.
off to practise.
ciao
x
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sounds like a challenge then cole!! Everyone will be dong it at Glasters now, up down horirontal and vertical and you'll have to sit down not playing with your poi
sounds like a challenge then cole!! Everyone will be dong it at Glasters now, up down horirontal and vertical and you'll have to sit down not playing with your poi
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works for me - its pretty much what i did last year anyway
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you'll have to sit down not playing with your poi
works for me - its pretty much what i did last year anyway
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Posted:
Nice diagrams BTW,
"....is almost impossible."
Well if its only almost.... Thats what they used to say about isolations.
I used to play with this.
Runs next door, okie, still there .. a bit rusty but they still work
I'm not happy with the way I play it, I could polish it... but I'm not going to for a while,
but yea it could be really visual with fire.
"and if you can do it with both hands at the same time, i'll give up poi right then and there"
out of TTN is a good base patterrn
I'll hold you to that, You better hope I don't pick you poi again for a while I reckon if i did, in a week i could have it smooth as
....er...
me
Nice diagrams BTW,
"....is almost impossible."
Well if its only almost.... Thats what they used to say about isolations.
I used to play with this.
Runs next door, okie, still there .. a bit rusty but they still work
I'm not happy with the way I play it, I could polish it... but I'm not going to for a while,
but yea it could be really visual with fire.
"and if you can do it with both hands at the same time, i'll give up poi right then and there
"out of TTN is a good base patterrn
I'll hold you to that, You better hope I don't pick you poi again for a while I reckon if i did, in a week i could have it smooth as
....er...
me
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> "....is almost impossible."
> Well if its only almost.... Thats what they used to say about isolations.
yep, i love partial absolutes cos although you sound like you've committed to an opinion, you can go back on it later: glass - he's almost perfect
> I used to play with this.
me too as you know (but not everyone) last year isolationy things were pretty much the only thing i did with poi (juggling was gradually taking me over).
i tried this in the hope of getting a decent method of changing direction without a stop/stall.
> I'm not happy with the way I play it
me neither - to keep the transition clean it seems to need to be so exact its ridiculous and the faster you spin, the harder it gets.
which is why i gave up and settled for s-shaped pullthroughs.
> I could polish it...
cool.
just don't polish it too fast or it will spit icky stuff at you again
> "and if you can do it with both hands at the same time, i'll give up poi right then and there "
> out of TTN is a good base patterrn
how long are your arms?!!??
upwards ttn good for 1 arm practice but even harder to do with both simultaneously.
imho.
i reckon, parallel swings are your best bet...
> smooth as
>
> ....er...
>
> me
i'll never be that smooth
> "....is almost impossible."
> Well if its only almost.... Thats what they used to say about isolations.
yep, i love partial absolutes cos although you sound like you've committed to an opinion, you can go back on it later: glass - he's almost perfect
> I used to play with this.
me too
as you know (but not everyone) last year isolationy things were pretty much the only thing i did with poi (juggling was gradually taking me over).i tried this in the hope of getting a decent method of changing direction without a stop/stall.
> I'm not happy with the way I play it
me neither - to keep the transition clean it seems to need to be so exact its ridiculous and the faster you spin, the harder it gets.
which is why i gave up and settled for s-shaped pullthroughs.
> I could polish it...
cool.
just don't polish it too fast or it will spit icky stuff at you again
> "and if you can do it with both hands at the same time, i'll give up poi right then and there "
> out of TTN is a good base patterrn
how long are your arms?!!??
upwards ttn good for 1 arm practice but even harder to do with both simultaneously.
imho.
i reckon, parallel swings are your best bet...
> smooth as
>
> ....er...
>
> me
i'll never be that smooth
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Cool. I'm baffled, but cool.
Are you sure it wasn't just an excuse for Oli to draw lots of tits?
Cool. I'm baffled, but cool.
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I think the key to it involves doign a near full isolation...meaning you isolate where the head stays still, rather then halfway like normal isoaltions are.. which gets both the near stall and isoaltion... and if timed to a near to full isoaltion.. it should begin to start gettting clean after a bit no? I mean the most difficult part me thinks is gettingused to going into and out of an isolation that far.. but I think if one could isolate like that it would solve most of the problem...
oh yeah. and the easing on and out of ther isolation would need to be a rounded V shape more then a straight v... think preset equalizer patterns..
I can onlyimagine how cool of a bounce it would have to it though..
I think the key to it involves doign a near full isolation...meaning you isolate where the head stays still, rather then halfway like normal isoaltions are.. which gets both the near stall and isoaltion... and if timed to a near to full isoaltion.. it should begin to start gettting clean after a bit no? I mean the most difficult part me thinks is gettingused to going into and out of an isolation that far.. but I think if one could isolate like that it would solve most of the problem...
oh yeah. and the easing on and out of ther isolation would need to be a rounded V shape more then a straight v... think preset equalizer patterns..
I can onlyimagine how cool of a bounce it would have to it though..
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> I think the key to it involves doign a near full isolation...meaning
> you isolate where the head stays still, rather then halfway like
> normal isoaltions are..
i agree completely - this is exactly what you have to do.
i beleive i may have even left myself open to being proved completely wrong on those as i'm sure i once described anything more than half a beat of full isolation as 'completely impossible'.
mine never got anywhere even close to being neat.
but then again, i still can't even isolate a weave properly...
> oh yeah. and the easing on and out of ther isolation would
> need to be a rounded V shape more then a straight v... think
> preset equalizer patterns..
or a badly penned nu (the greek letter)
really nasty to try and move around like that...
> I think the key to it involves doign a near full isolation...meaning
> you isolate where the head stays still, rather then halfway like
> normal isoaltions are..
i agree completely - this is exactly what you have to do.
i beleive i may have even left myself open to being proved completely wrong on those as i'm sure i once described anything more than half a beat of full isolation as 'completely impossible'.
mine never got anywhere even close to being neat.
but then again, i still can't even isolate a weave properly...
> oh yeah. and the easing on and out of ther isolation would
> need to be a rounded V shape more then a straight v... think
> preset equalizer patterns..
or a badly penned nu (the greek letter)
really nasty to try and move around like that...
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er.
sorry cole.
i'm with drew on this one. could be ubersmooth in not very long.
didn't realise ive been doing variants on these for a while. and funnily enough tend to use reverse flutterbys as a base.
anyhow.
nearly ready for a repeat of last years 'tricks in a field' session? two poi, two stoned men, much amusement.
smiles
R
er.
sorry cole.
i'm with drew on this one. could be ubersmooth in not very long.
didn't realise ive been doing variants on these for a while. and funnily enough tend to use reverse flutterbys as a base.
anyhow.
nearly ready for a repeat of last years 'tricks in a field' session? two poi, two stoned men, much amusement.
smiles
R
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sooo... the general consensus is its deffinetly possible. thats good.
and mags. bloody weird tits if you ask me
sooo... the general consensus is its deffinetly possible. thats good.
and mags. bloody weird tits if you ask me
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Anyone good with flash? I think we could whip up a great moving replica of this...wish I was good enough to try it but I'm not and I don't know anyone that spins well enough to attempt...grr
Anyone good with flash? I think we could whip up a great moving replica of this...wish I was good enough to try it but I'm not and I don't know anyone that spins well enough to attempt...grr
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i was thinking that as i drew it.. but didnt know how to
if you want to visulaise it though a good way is with your poi on the floor, moving them in quarter circle chunks ...
just make sure noones watching you. theyll think youve gone mad
i was thinking that as i drew it.. but didnt know how to
if you want to visulaise it though a good way is with your poi on the floor, moving them in quarter circle chunks ...
just make sure noones watching you. theyll think youve gone mad
Me train running low on soul coal
They push+pull tactics are driving me loco
They shouldn't do that no no no
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playing the days away
7,263 posts
Location: The Middle lands, United Kingdom
playing the days away
7,263 posts
Location: The Middle lands, United Kingdom
Posted:
two stoned men....I think you may have a few on your hands for poi-ish trickyness comparisoness stonedeyness
Written by: bluecat
nearly ready for a repeat of last years 'tricks in a field' session? two poi, two stoned men, much amusement
two stoned men....I think you may have a few on your hands for poi-ish trickyness comparisoness stonedeyness
Let's relight this forum
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Pooh-Bah
2,109 posts
Location: Philadelphia, PA - USA
Pooh-Bah
2,109 posts
Location: Philadelphia, PA - USA
Posted:
Oli,
Dervishly Yers can be downloaded in the video forum. I believe its currently on the 3rd page in a thread called Dervishly Yers. I actually watched the vid to check for this move and I think he ALMOST does it right near the end after he gets out of his horizontal set, but its not really too clear.
Cole,
Your talk of complete isolation gave me an idea. Its easy to completely isolate a poi actually... But it can only really be done for half a beat. It comes in the form of a toss with a counter weighted poi. IE: From rev TTN, let right poi go under left arm. Toss the poi putting some force on the handle, the handle will flip over top the poi head and you catch it on the other side. (Im sure youre familiar with this). Now Im trying to translate that toss into this move. Perhaps when the poi gets to the center spot (where the arm movement is supposed to happen) you could toss the handle downwards, it would spin under the head and you would catch it in the second position and let the poi continue on in reverse.
Not sure if this method makes things more complicated but its another way to look at it
Oli,
Dervishly Yers can be downloaded in the video forum. I believe its currently on the 3rd page in a thread called Dervishly Yers. I actually watched the vid to check for this move and I think he ALMOST does it right near the end after he gets out of his horizontal set, but its not really too clear.
Cole,
Your talk of complete isolation gave me an idea. Its easy to completely isolate a poi actually... But it can only really be done for half a beat. It comes in the form of a toss with a counter weighted poi. IE: From rev TTN, let right poi go under left arm. Toss the poi putting some force on the handle, the handle will flip over top the poi head and you catch it on the other side. (Im sure youre familiar with this). Now Im trying to translate that toss into this move. Perhaps when the poi gets to the center spot (where the arm movement is supposed to happen) you could toss the handle downwards, it would spin under the head and you would catch it in the second position and let the poi continue on in reverse.
Not sure if this method makes things more complicated but its another way to look at it
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We'll blaze a new trail,
and torch the rough patches.
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big and good and broken
7,330 posts
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay, United Kingdom
big and good and broken
7,330 posts
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay, United Kingdom
Posted:
don't be sorry dude - we're supposed to discuss things here.
but you do realise its exactly 'not very long' until galstonbury so i'll expect to see it in pilton
mmmmmm, a moving double infinity sign with fire might just look alright you know...
i'm picky though ya know - ubersmooth means just that 
nice one for posting this oli
icon - nick doesn't do this move on dervishly yers.
it would be really obvious if you saw someone doing it because you would see exactly what oli has drawn - two poi spinning in one direction and then smoothly move to the right or the left (in the same plane) and spin in the other direction, with no turns from the person spinning.
the throw and catch would work (although you might get a slight pause of the poi head during the throw) - again, you'd have to be right fast.
bug - read the quote again; if you don't see where the extra amusement comes from, you'll just have to wait and see
maybe we'll even have a go of this move eh bloo?
Written by: bluecat
sorry cole.
i'm with drew on this one. could be ubersmooth in not very long.
don't be sorry dude - we're supposed to discuss things here.
but you do realise its exactly 'not very long' until galstonbury so i'll expect to see it in pilton
mmmmmm, a moving double infinity sign with fire might just look alright you know...
i'm picky though ya know - ubersmooth means just that
nice one for posting this oli
icon - nick doesn't do this move on dervishly yers.
it would be really obvious if you saw someone doing it because you would see exactly what oli has drawn - two poi spinning in one direction and then smoothly move to the right or the left (in the same plane) and spin in the other direction, with no turns from the person spinning.
the throw and catch would work (although you might get a slight pause of the poi head during the throw) - again, you'd have to be right fast.
bug - read the quote again; if you don't see where the extra amusement comes from, you'll just have to wait and see
maybe we'll even have a go of this move eh bloo?
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i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
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