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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Carpal \'Tunnel
2,617 posts
Location: Berlin, Ireland
Posted:
I'm just wondering (and not out of competitivness - I can't do 'em all yet
) whether you can do any / all of the following moves.
1) BTB TTN (all directions)
2) BTH TTN (all directions)
3) BTB 4 beat TTN
4) BTH 4 beat TTN
5) Split time BTB / TBTH TTN
It'd be cool if you said whether you plan on learning them too, cause I'm interested to know?
I don't believe a lot is gained with these moves visually by themselves, but they certainly are worth learning me thinks.
Of the ones I have learnt I've certainly gotten the same satisfaction as any other moved I've learnt. They have also open up transitions into moves (BTB butterfly waistwrap without coming back in front) that wouldn't otherwise be possible, as well as ways of dancing (getting into it) better(think ttn and dancing).
One of the reasons I'm wondering is also because of all this hype about loops (
) and other more "complicated" moves and what can be missed out on.
I'm just wondering (and not out of competitivness - I can't do 'em all yet
) whether you can do any / all of the following moves.1) BTB TTN (all directions)
2) BTH TTN (all directions)
3) BTB 4 beat TTN
4) BTH 4 beat TTN
5) Split time BTB / TBTH TTN
It'd be cool if you said whether you plan on learning them too, cause I'm interested to know?
I don't believe a lot is gained with these moves visually by themselves, but they certainly are worth learning me thinks.
Of the ones I have learnt I've certainly gotten the same satisfaction as any other moved I've learnt. They have also open up transitions into moves (BTB butterfly waistwrap without coming back in front) that wouldn't otherwise be possible, as well as ways of dancing (getting into it) better(think ttn and dancing).
One of the reasons I'm wondering is also because of all this hype about loops (
) and other more "complicated" moves and what can be missed out on.I live in a world of infinite possibilities.
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Location: London
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Posted:
no no no no no
but...
weasel does a lovely btb waistwrap-stretch split-time isolation (follow not butterfly)
which is another funky one from the school of bending-your-arms-round-in-silly-ways-then-doing-complicated-stuff
edit- it's backwards. Haven't seen forwards too, cos it'd be very hard.
EDITED_BY: simian (1076668958)
no no no no no
but...
weasel does a lovely btb waistwrap-stretch split-time isolation (follow not butterfly)
which is another funky one from the school of bending-your-arms-round-in-silly-ways-then-doing-complicated-stuff
edit- it's backwards. Haven't seen forwards too, cos it'd be very hard.
EDITED_BY: simian (1076668958)
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Posted:
yes yes no no no yes.
i find bth easier than btb when doing thread the needle - bf weave ugly anyone...?
and you are right about a proper btb bf ww.
they're disgustingly hard - i've never seen a split time one.
jonnny moohaahaa can kind of do one of the same time ones
yes yes no no no yes.
i find bth easier than btb when doing thread the needle - bf weave ugly anyone...?
and you are right about a proper btb bf ww.
they're disgustingly hard - i've never seen a split time one.
jonnny moohaahaa can kind of do one of the same time ones
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Posted:
i think i can do a full non-alternating butterfly btb ww...
i took it from doing it with two sticks, and it took me ages to learn with them
i think i can do a full non-alternating butterfly btb ww...
i took it from doing it with two sticks, and it took me ages to learn with them
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Posted:
yes yes yes no no...at least I think no on the last one.. I don't spin split time bf stuff.. it just doesnt work with my style...
yes yes yes no no...at least I think no on the last one.. I don't spin split time bf stuff.. it just doesnt work with my style...
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Location: New Zealand
Posted:
My inwards btb butterflies suck.
But I can do a mean 3Bt BF BTB Outwards (split time ttn) in the wall plane
I could almost do 3Bt BF Weave BTB in wheel plane but never quite got comfortable with repeating it.
They are all great moves though and certainly open up masses of possibilities.
I stopped practicing them when i started throwing my poi around, then i got into hyperloopery.
Personally throws and contact poi are way higher on my list of things to learn. However, learning moves like the ones mentioned will make for a very strong foundation so go for it.
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My inwards btb butterflies suck.
But I can do a mean 3Bt BF BTB Outwards (split time ttn) in the wall plane
I could almost do 3Bt BF Weave BTB in wheel plane but never quite got comfortable with repeating it.
They are all great moves though and certainly open up masses of possibilities.
I stopped practicing them when i started throwing my poi around, then i got into hyperloopery.
Personally throws and contact poi are way higher on my list of things to learn. However, learning moves like the ones mentioned will make for a very strong foundation so go for it.
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Posted:
Do you mean that bad a$$ ttn weave that jo derry does in front??? (4bt ttn weave btb?) If so NO i cant do that btb, in front is hard enough, as far as 3bts and splittimes in all those planes... no prob's.
A friend talked about "quantums" when you learn about 10 different moves, while cleaning old moves and moves not quit "in your set" and then you continually learn new moves all the time, which takes alot of the pain out of waiting for afew weeks to just learn 1 move.
Just has to do with time management, u spend 5min on loops, 10 on new moves, 5 on cleaning etc etc obviously there are guanna be moves that take 6months to learn, but if your learning other moves inbetween praticing that move, you neva feel stagnated, or bored.
Back to the topic, personally i dont think it matters that much, cause noone can even see your doing btb ttn so its pointless, unless you just wanna say "Im the Man, i can do 4bt btb ttn weave" although it dose widen you base, and skill lvl.
Do you mean that bad a$$ ttn weave that jo derry does in front??? (4bt ttn weave btb?) If so NO i cant do that btb, in front is hard enough, as far as 3bts and splittimes in all those planes... no prob's. A friend talked about "quantums" when you learn about 10 different moves, while cleaning old moves and moves not quit "in your set" and then you continually learn new moves all the time, which takes alot of the pain out of waiting for afew weeks to just learn 1 move.
Just has to do with time management, u spend 5min on loops, 10 on new moves, 5 on cleaning etc etc obviously there are guanna be moves that take 6months to learn, but if your learning other moves inbetween praticing that move, you neva feel stagnated, or bored.
Back to the topic, personally i dont think it matters that much, cause noone can even see your doing btb ttn so its pointless, unless you just wanna say "Im the Man, i can do 4bt btb ttn weave" although it dose widen you base, and skill lvl.
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Posted:
i agree with everything dragon just said
i agree with everything dragon just said
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Posted:
yes yes yes yes yes.
all good to know but... still one level lower than you ought to have them for lots more airwraps. you oughta be able to inch around back and forth from split time to normal time inside all these. and be able to turn at any point of course.
yes yes yes yes yes.
all good to know but... still one level lower than you ought to have them for lots more airwraps. you oughta be able to inch around back and forth from split time to normal time inside all these. and be able to turn at any point of course.
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Posted:
i dunno what ttn means so dunno but as the only thing i can do behind the back is flutterby and almost a weave prob no no no no no no no hehe
educate me please!
i dunno what ttn means so dunno but as the only thing i can do behind the back is flutterby and almost a weave prob no no no no no no no hehe
educate me please!
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Location: Calgary, Alberta Canada
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Posted:
ttn is thread the needle.
I can sort of do a behind the back butterfly, but not anywhere good enough to get a ttn going with it.
The only trick I can do reliably well behind the back is the btb reverse weave.
I'm working like mad on the btb forward weave, as MAnd can attest, but...well...I'm a slow slow learner with some things.
Other folks say those tricks are possible, so I'd believe em...but I'd love to see a btb ttn.
ttn is thread the needle.
I can sort of do a behind the back butterfly, but not anywhere good enough to get a ttn going with it.
The only trick I can do reliably well behind the back is the btb reverse weave.
I'm working like mad on the btb forward weave, as MAnd can attest, but...well...I'm a slow slow learner with some things.
Other folks say those tricks are possible, so I'd believe em...but I'd love to see a btb ttn.
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Stream Entrant
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Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posted:
Interesting questions DSS.
1) BTB TTN. No, haven’t felt a need for it yet, but I think about it from time to time.
2) BTH TTN. Yes, but I not very well. Not one I practice much.
3) BTB 4 beat TTN. No
4) BTH 4 beat TTN. No
5) Split time BTB / TBTH TTN. Don’t think. Trying to improve my split-time bf TTN.
6) bf weave ugly anyone? No, but I have a very ugly bf upper fountain. One day I’ll get the one I want there.
Special thanks to the contributors in the recent waist wrap discussion on the bottom carry, as now I’m starting to get into btb bf ww’s. Cheers.
Interesting questions DSS.
1) BTB TTN. No, haven’t felt a need for it yet, but I think about it from time to time.
2) BTH TTN. Yes, but I not very well. Not one I practice much.
3) BTB 4 beat TTN. No
4) BTH 4 beat TTN. No
5) Split time BTB / TBTH TTN. Don’t think. Trying to improve my split-time bf TTN.
6) bf weave ugly anyone? No, but I have a very ugly bf upper fountain. One day I’ll get the one I want there.
Special thanks to the contributors in the recent waist wrap discussion on the bottom carry, as now I’m starting to get into btb bf ww’s. Cheers.
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Posted:
I'm afraid I cant do any of those as of yet, and have no one to spin with who can do it....well for that matter no one to spin with period. I'm starting to think I am the only spinner in Washington.
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I'm afraid I cant do any of those as of yet, and have no one to spin with who can do it....well for that matter no one to spin with period. I'm starting to think I am the only spinner in Washington.
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Posted:
i can btb ttn in the wall plane as well as the ttn weave btb. with the ttn i can make it 3 and 4 beat depending on which side i'm on. it's kinda cheaty because i mainly move the one arm. and visually it does look nice once you manage to do it not contorting your body in an obscene way. and it looks lovely once you get some thru wraps in there too.
bth is yet to be explored and split time is baffling me btb. it may have to wait because today i believe i began my obsession with club juggling...
i can btb ttn in the wall plane as well as the ttn weave btb. with the ttn i can make it 3 and 4 beat depending on which side i'm on. it's kinda cheaty because i mainly move the one arm. and visually it does look nice once you manage to do it not contorting your body in an obscene way. and it looks lovely once you get some thru wraps in there too.
bth is yet to be explored and split time is baffling me btb. it may have to wait because today i believe i began my obsession with club juggling...
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Location: Berlin, Ireland
Carpal \'Tunnel
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Location: Berlin, Ireland
Posted:
I know what you mean, I just started juggling clubs too
Mainly towards Taniwha and Nix....I know they mightn't look like anything worth learning but I reckon they totally are and I already gave an example of the one you mentioned.....the btb ttn.....not to mention turning.
I wasn't refering to the BTB TTN weave at any point
but only a straight forward 4 bt btb butterfly and split time variations...specifically because these move MAY look the same.
Anyway moves like the 4 beat TTN you dance way more in front so why not behind.
I know what you mean, I just started juggling clubs too
Mainly towards Taniwha and Nix....I know they mightn't look like anything worth learning but I reckon they totally are and I already gave an example of the one you mentioned.....the btb ttn.....not to mention turning.
I wasn't refering to the BTB TTN weave at any point
but only a straight forward 4 bt btb butterfly and split time variations...specifically because these move MAY look the same.Anyway moves like the 4 beat TTN you dance way more in front so why not behind.
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