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I just moved to this new town a my brothers into this train stuff,So i was taking him to a hobby shop down the street. When we walked he went over to the train stuff and looked around.So i went to check out the paint ball guns when i noced a large group of people standing around and diced to take a look. When i walked over to see to my suprize this guy was spinning poi i wached for a little bit (he was trying to the overhead butterfly.) so i pulled out my poi that i keep with me all the time and started to do the windmill some little kid said "hey you can't beat the pro" and i said whos a pro? everyone laughed and said were have you been mars? no i asked him what was his best move? and he said you just saw my do it what i said!? I was trying not to be rude) ok so how long have you been spinning 7 months he said. well ok do you want me to teach you he said YEA RIGHT! like you can teach me im a pro i started spinning and everyone was amazed wow theach me he said! and then i explaned to everyone why their were no pors at any sport it just takes practice and ditirmation. has anyone ever been in the sitiation? if so what did you do?-star
I just moved to this new town a my brothers into this train stuff,So i was taking him to a hobby shop down the street. When we walked he went over to the train stuff and looked around.So i went to check out the paint ball guns when i noced a large group of people standing around and diced to take a look. When i walked over to see to my suprize this guy was spinning poi i wached for a little bit (he was trying to the overhead butterfly.) so i pulled out my poi that i keep with me all the time and started to do the windmill some little kid said "hey you can't beat the pro" and i said whos a pro? everyone laughed and said were have you been mars? no i asked him what was his best move? and he said you just saw my do it what i said!? I was trying not to be rude) ok so how long have you been spinning 7 months he said. well ok do you want me to teach you he said YEA RIGHT! like you can teach me im a pro i started spinning and everyone was amazed wow theach me he said! and then i explaned to everyone why their were no pors at any sport it just takes practice and ditirmation. has anyone ever been in the sitiation? if so what did you do?-star
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lol,Unfortunately doesn't happen to me much. I live in an area with a lot of experienced poi & staff people, who are more likely to be teaching me stuff.R.
lol,Unfortunately doesn't happen to me much. I live in an area with a lot of experienced poi & staff people, who are more likely to be teaching me stuff.R.
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This is strange man, cos i've recently been faced with that dillemma. Swallowing pride is much easier if you can practice Self-Observation It used to make be a bit miffed actually, but now I realise that there is absolutely no need to be put off by it, because the root of my discomfort ultimately was one-upmanship - which is entirely selfish.I do realise that undertaking Self-Observation is overkill for such a small matter, but it has completely changed the way I experience life. It is only through conscious self-observation that we will ever realise just how little control we have over our own actions/responses to the world.This is especially the case such as ours when a fellow twirler is visibly insecure enough to question everyone's imperfection/emphasise their own feats. They realise that they fool no-one with their behaviour, but it is far more comfortable then facing their fear of 'not being the best'In my case last week, Flaming Star, response I took was to bridge that gulf and let go of the discomfort. The 'PRO' kid in my case was allowed to vent his steam, and his 'puffing-of-chests' was allowed its course. The struggle as it were, diminishes if you let it.Admittedly, I'm new to this, and hesitated somewhat that night as I did so, but I was finally in total control of my emotions! Sounds minor, i know, but a beautiful side effect of it is that I now continually feel a more complete peace than ever in my life, without the use of any chemical!A funny thing to note is that Self-Observation teaches you to free yourself from selfish desires, yet I only stumbled onto Self-Observation because I selfishly wished to meet someone while Astral projecting!Another case of the right thing for the wrong reasons! -> sorta like N'Sync getting blown up in Star Wars Episode 2
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This is strange man, cos i've recently been faced with that dillemma. Swallowing pride is much easier if you can practice Self-Observation It used to make be a bit miffed actually, but now I realise that there is absolutely no need to be put off by it, because the root of my discomfort ultimately was one-upmanship - which is entirely selfish.I do realise that undertaking Self-Observation is overkill for such a small matter, but it has completely changed the way I experience life. It is only through conscious self-observation that we will ever realise just how little control we have over our own actions/responses to the world.This is especially the case such as ours when a fellow twirler is visibly insecure enough to question everyone's imperfection/emphasise their own feats. They realise that they fool no-one with their behaviour, but it is far more comfortable then facing their fear of 'not being the best'In my case last week, Flaming Star, response I took was to bridge that gulf and let go of the discomfort. The 'PRO' kid in my case was allowed to vent his steam, and his 'puffing-of-chests' was allowed its course. The struggle as it were, diminishes if you let it.Admittedly, I'm new to this, and hesitated somewhat that night as I did so, but I was finally in total control of my emotions! Sounds minor, i know, but a beautiful side effect of it is that I now continually feel a more complete peace than ever in my life, without the use of any chemical!A funny thing to note is that Self-Observation teaches you to free yourself from selfish desires, yet I only stumbled onto Self-Observation because I selfishly wished to meet someone while Astral projecting!Another case of the right thing for the wrong reasons! -> sorta like N'Sync getting blown up in Star Wars Episode 2![This message has been edited from the Astral plane
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yes, aggree totaly.!
yes, aggree totaly.!
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HAHAH he's the PRO!!! hahha
HAHAH he's the PRO!!! hahha
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From here on end, i am no longer an amateur spinner. I have graced the ranks of PRO SPINNER!!!!!you all have to address me as pro spinner phunky from now on, and i will address all of you as lowly amateur spinners.You will all do my bidding lowly amateur spinners!heh j/k------------------[]Dhuong-Vu Truong==== []Dhunky ====
From here on end, i am no longer an amateur spinner. I have graced the ranks of PRO SPINNER!!!!!you all have to address me as pro spinner phunky from now on, and i will address all of you as lowly amateur spinners.You will all do my bidding lowly amateur spinners!heh j/k
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You wish is my command oh Pro Spinner Phunky.*umm...yeah....whatever..
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You wish is my command oh Pro Spinner Phunky.*umm...yeah....whatever..
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pro spinner phunky, say something to me, please!! do you have an article of clothing (or a sandal) you can send me to worship, Dr Mr Sir Pro Spinner Phunky?
pro spinner phunky, say something to me, please!! do you have an article of clothing (or a sandal) you can send me to worship, Dr Mr Sir Pro Spinner Phunky?
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Do not worship the sandal, worship the gourd of pro spinner phunky! The gourd! The gourd!
Do not worship the sandal, worship the gourd of pro spinner phunky! The gourd! The gourd!
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oh the mighty dr pro spinner phunky!!! please teach me the key to the bhb 5 beat rev weave and all of the holy moves that only you can perform!!! *cough*whatever*cough*p.l.u.r.r.Xtrembwahahahahaha
oh the mighty dr pro spinner phunky!!! please teach me the key to the bhb 5 beat rev weave and all of the holy moves that only you can perform!!! *cough*whatever*cough*p.l.u.r.r.Xtrembwahahahahaha
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well, i find that the fire teaches everyone about themselves and their egos. usually for the first year or so there is a big ego discovery as the fire brings all the stuff inside of us to the surface so that it can burn it away. first as the coolness of it all sets in, you start to think that your shit just fell right out of the sky. of course any dork can pick up a pair of chains(poi) or something and look cool. but once you start doing it for a while, you realize that whenever you're doing it to show off, the fire burns you. bad. it's teaching you about sacred energy, and how fire as a magical force should be done for other reasons. wwhatever they may be for you. for me it is about channelling beauty and creative inspiration. fire is powerful, and your using it will manifest things. if you look at it as a way to be better than someone else, it will burn you. what was your intention by telling the person that you could teach him? of course he would think your were rtying to be superior and react that way. most of the people that have been doing fire for a while have learned that it's not about having the coolest move. that comes from insecurity. people ask me all the time to show them some really cool move, and i think it's more important to dance and flow with the moves that you already know. then you can teach yourself moves, because the POI reveal the moves to you. all this is a natural process, and i've seen a chronology that seems to be universal. in fact i sometimes can tell how many years someone has been doin fire by how they communicate and react to other fire dancers that may be better or worse than them.
well, i find that the fire teaches everyone about themselves and their egos. usually for the first year or so there is a big ego discovery as the fire brings all the stuff inside of us to the surface so that it can burn it away. first as the coolness of it all sets in, you start to think that your shit just fell right out of the sky. of course any dork can pick up a pair of chains(poi) or something and look cool. but once you start doing it for a while, you realize that whenever you're doing it to show off, the fire burns you. bad. it's teaching you about sacred energy, and how fire as a magical force should be done for other reasons. wwhatever they may be for you. for me it is about channelling beauty and creative inspiration. fire is powerful, and your using it will manifest things. if you look at it as a way to be better than someone else, it will burn you. what was your intention by telling the person that you could teach him? of course he would think your were rtying to be superior and react that way. most of the people that have been doing fire for a while have learned that it's not about having the coolest move. that comes from insecurity. people ask me all the time to show them some really cool move, and i think it's more important to dance and flow with the moves that you already know. then you can teach yourself moves, because the POI reveal the moves to you. all this is a natural process, and i've seen a chronology that seems to be universal. in fact i sometimes can tell how many years someone has been doin fire by how they communicate and react to other fire dancers that may be better or worse than them.
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There, it's official now*looks at signature*muah------------------[]Dhuong-Vu Truong== []Dro Spinner ====== []Dhunky ====
There, it's official now*looks at signature*muah
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Very true Arashi...As for being a PRO...I am a pro!In that the word "pro'" which a shortened version of the word professional, which means someone who gets paid to do it by others...Doesn't mean I'm any good though, I'm probably pretty useless unless I'm on a unicycle.So, being a pro doesn't mean you are good anyway (sorry phunky, but could you still send me on of your sandals ).I must admit, I think it the attitude that makes the spinner. There's this guy called Tim here in auckland whose got hundreds if not thousands of poi, staff and double staff moves, and they all flow and look amazing, if there was a scale I'd say I'd be a 3 and he'd be a 300.I mentioned while talking once that I thought he was better than me and he said "Better - hpmh" and then i said "well you can do more stuff" which he finally accepted.That's the sort of attitude we should all have, no one is better or worse, unless perhaps it's their personality rather than their skills that are being judged...(blah blah blah) 
------------------Charles (AKA INFERNO)newdolbel@hotmail.comhttps://juggle.co.nz/fire/fire.html[This message has been edited by Charles (edited 21 March 2002).]
Very true Arashi...As for being a PRO...I am a pro!In that the word "pro'" which a shortened version of the word professional, which means someone who gets paid to do it by others...Doesn't mean I'm any good though, I'm probably pretty useless unless I'm on a unicycle.So, being a pro doesn't mean you are good anyway (sorry phunky, but could you still send me on of your sandals
).I must admit, I think it the attitude that makes the spinner. There's this guy called Tim here in auckland whose got hundreds if not thousands of poi, staff and double staff moves, and they all flow and look amazing, if there was a scale I'd say I'd be a 3 and he'd be a 300.I mentioned while talking once that I thought he was better than me and he said "Better - hpmh" and then i said "well you can do more stuff" which he finally accepted.That's the sort of attitude we should all have, no one is better or worse, unless perhaps it's their personality rather than their skills that are being judged...(blah blah blah) ------------------Charles (AKA INFERNO)newdolbel@hotmail.comhttps://juggle.co.nz/fire/fire.html[This message has been edited by Charles (edited 21 March 2002).] HoP Posting Guidelines
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Oh ya, feel free to add "lowly amateur spinner" to your sigature if you like------------------[]Dhuong-Vu Truong== []Dro Spinner ====== []Dhunky ===
Oh ya, feel free to add "lowly amateur spinner" to your sigature if you like
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Don't burst my bubble charles. PRO means you are a super duper ultra crazy phat magnificent spinner. Don't listen to charles. You shall all look up to me and my PRO skillz.------------------[]Dhuong-Vu Truong== []Dro Spinner ====== []Dhunky ===
Don't burst my bubble charles. PRO means you are a super duper ultra crazy phat magnificent spinner. Don't listen to charles. You shall all look up to me and my PRO skillz.------------------[]Dhuong-Vu Truong== []Dro Spinner ====== []Dhunky ===
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The only person who can burst your bubble, Phunky, is YOU (Does the big Uncle Sam pointing finger pose).But thats ok, I still respect you (and everyone on this board) as a self-aware sack of water and dna strands.(Except Itsgottab, who i know consider a troll and have no idea if trolls have dna or not??)but anyway ((((((((((((((((((((((Phunky)))))))))))))))))))Love ya Phunks!------------------Charles (AKA INFERNO)newdolbel@hotmail.comhttps://juggle.co.nz/fire/fire.html
The only person who can burst your bubble, Phunky, is YOU (Does the big Uncle Sam pointing finger pose).But thats ok, I still respect you (and everyone on this board) as a self-aware sack of water and dna strands.(Except Itsgottab, who i know consider a troll and have no idea if trolls have dna or not??)but anyway ((((((((((((((((((((((Phunky)))))))))))))))))))Love ya Phunks!------------------Charles (AKA INFERNO)newdolbel@hotmail.comhttps://juggle.co.nz/fire/fire.html
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PS (Looking at phunks signature)Whats a "Dro Spinner"?????------------------Charles (AKA INFERNO)newdolbel@hotmail.comhttps://juggle.co.nz/fire/fire.html
PS (Looking at phunks signature)Whats a "Dro Spinner"?????
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hiya Arashi,I agree with you that the poi can channel creativity to beautiful poi'ers or mete out burns to the nasty spinners, but only to the degree whereby the poi is an extension of Karma equilibrium: If you live your life a decent person, your life will be as sublime - and your poi pastime is a just one manifestation of that reward. Above that I don't honestly believe poi to be a 'magical' force tho. Spiritual yes, but rabbit-out-of-the-hat? 'fraid not. I wish i did tho - but my childhood naivety has given way to Adulthood pragmatism. Which really sux.As for the emphasis on skill or how long people have been twirling for - to root of this focus is ultimately conceited. So these days I dun really ask about where twirlers are at - i concentrate on where they are growing. When nice twirlers meet, they exchange tricks, not boasts.'nuff said.Bless the Phunky and His PoiBless the coming and going of HimMay His passage cleanse the worldMay He keep the world for His people-Shai'Hulud Prayer
hiya Arashi,I agree with you that the poi can channel creativity to beautiful poi'ers or mete out burns to the nasty spinners, but only to the degree whereby the poi is an extension of Karma equilibrium: If you live your life a decent person, your life will be as sublime - and your poi pastime is a just one manifestation of that reward. Above that I don't honestly believe poi to be a 'magical' force tho. Spiritual yes, but rabbit-out-of-the-hat? 'fraid not. I wish i did tho - but my childhood naivety has given way to Adulthood pragmatism. Which really sux.As for the emphasis on skill or how long people have been twirling for - to root of this focus is ultimately conceited. So these days I dun really ask about where twirlers are at - i concentrate on where they are growing. When nice twirlers meet, they exchange tricks, not boasts.'nuff said.Bless the Phunky and His PoiBless the coming and going of HimMay His passage cleanse the worldMay He keep the world for His people-Shai'Hulud Prayer
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well, when i say magic i don't mean tricks like a rabbit. i mean that something that science hasn't been able to quantify yet- i mean the spiritual manifestation of will, i mean the way that the universe can do things that are called "coincidence." since the time of the ancients fire has "symbolized" spirit. the thing to remember is that "symbol" is a word used to describe things in a book. to a medicine man (or shaman, priest, etc.) fire IS spirit. and sacred means much more than real special. all this is just something to think about. a magician or medicine man does not draw lines between sacred and secular. and i'm not saying that it isn't that way for you. i'm just rambling. food for thought and all. i see you know of dune- did you know that herbert was a 33 degree freemason? those "powers" that are talked about in those books are esoteric magical secrets from all the ancient cultures of the world. for instance, the wierding modules are the same as the kung fu masters that can explode organs with their voice KYAAA! i don't know, it seems like that might interest you. anyway, fire takes care of me, and connects me with the most wonderful people- isn't that magic enough?
well, when i say magic i don't mean tricks like a rabbit. i mean that something that science hasn't been able to quantify yet- i mean the spiritual manifestation of will, i mean the way that the universe can do things that are called "coincidence." since the time of the ancients fire has "symbolized" spirit. the thing to remember is that "symbol" is a word used to describe things in a book. to a medicine man (or shaman, priest, etc.) fire IS spirit. and sacred means much more than real special. all this is just something to think about. a magician or medicine man does not draw lines between sacred and secular. and i'm not saying that it isn't that way for you. i'm just rambling. food for thought and all. i see you know of dune- did you know that herbert was a 33 degree freemason? those "powers" that are talked about in those books are esoteric magical secrets from all the ancient cultures of the world. for instance, the wierding modules are the same as the kung fu masters that can explode organs with their voice KYAAA! i don't know, it seems like that might interest you. anyway, fire takes care of me, and connects me with the most wonderful people- isn't that magic enough?
-Such a price the gods exact for song: to become what we sing
-Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty.
-When the center of the storm does not move, you are in its path.
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Arashi -
That's more than enough. =)
Thanks for letting us look into your world.
The Pilot has turned off the "Remain Seated" lights.
Feel free to move about the Cabin.
--Dut, lowly amature shaman.
ps -- there was a point in time when I was trying to pull a scroll across the room to my hand using telekenesis or some shit. I walked over to the scroll, grabbed it and went back to sitting in my chair. High Fucking Magick. =) Manifested Will is a fun thing to play with.
Arashi -
That's more than enough. =)
Thanks for letting us look into your world.
The Pilot has turned off the "Remain Seated" lights.
Feel free to move about the Cabin.
--Dut, lowly amature shaman.
ps -- there was a point in time when I was trying to pull a scroll across the room to my hand using telekenesis or some shit. I walked over to the scroll, grabbed it and went back to sitting in my chair. High Fucking Magick. =) Manifested Will is a fun thing to play with.
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heh, im kinda embarrassed about this, but oh well, at one of our school dances, my friend spotted some kids randomly twirling glowsticks over in the corner, not actual organized twirling mind you, granted there were a few 2 beats and one kid actually had a 3 beat, but that was about it, mostly just making em go fast and trying to put the planes together. So my friend says "Dude, kyle, you gotta go show em up!" I said,"Well, i dunno..." but in the end fell into peer pressure and walked over with my friend. I sauntered up to the kid who seemed to be doing the best and stuck out my hand and asked mildly "Can i try?" He looked at me, handed them to me and told me to be careful. i took em up and spun em a nice little show for about a minute, handed em back and walked away...
felt kinda lousy about it afterwards, but at the time i was riding a nice ego boost...
thinking about it afterwards, i realized just how jerky i had been, and found the kids at school, and gave them this site,and told them to stick with it...
i dunno, it made me feel better...
hehehe, and sure enough, next dance they showed up and all of em had 3 beats
heh, im kinda embarrassed about this, but oh well, at one of our school dances, my friend spotted some kids randomly twirling glowsticks over in the corner, not actual organized twirling mind you, granted there were a few 2 beats and one kid actually had a 3 beat, but that was about it, mostly just making em go fast and trying to put the planes together. So my friend says "Dude, kyle, you gotta go show em up!" I said,"Well, i dunno..." but in the end fell into peer pressure and walked over with my friend. I sauntered up to the kid who seemed to be doing the best and stuck out my hand and asked mildly "Can i try?" He looked at me, handed them to me and told me to be careful. i took em up and spun em a nice little show for about a minute, handed em back and walked away...
felt kinda lousy about it afterwards, but at the time i was riding a nice ego boost...
thinking about it afterwards, i realized just how jerky i had been, and found the kids at school, and gave them this site,and told them to stick with it...
i dunno, it made me feel better...
hehehe, and sure enough, next dance they showed up and all of em had 3 beats
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Hehh eh arashi dood, you'll find dune fans in the wierdest of places. like the back of a volkswagon!
Hehh eh arashi dood, you'll find dune fans in the wierdest of places. like the back of a volkswagon!
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if the volkswagon's a rockin don't come a knockin!
if the volkswagon's a rockin don't come a knockin!
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sigh, oddly I'm the "pro" at my university juggling club. I other words nobody else dabbles in poi. But they seriously kick ass juggling, I am always completely blown away by some of the guys there. Than I do some of my average moves and such, just the butterfly variations, weaves, and windmills and they're like "wow!". I mean I am getting better, been practicing for 3 months, but I always cringe when I'm referred to as the group "expert".
sigh, oddly I'm the "pro" at my university juggling club. I other words nobody else dabbles in poi. But they seriously kick ass juggling, I am always completely blown away by some of the guys there. Than I do some of my average moves and such, just the butterfly variations, weaves, and windmills and they're like "wow!". I mean I am getting better, been practicing for 3 months, but I always cringe when I'm referred to as the group "expert".
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I've had a kind of similar experience, but watching from the other side.
Last year, a group of friends and I went to a canoeing event in Northampton and we ended up getting there a day early so I broke out the poi I'd taken. I had a set of fire poi and another 2 sets of practice ones, one of my friends had another fire set too.
We did a fair bit of spinning on the Friday night and then a fair bit more during Saturday morning before the event started.
Since I was teaching my friends as much as I could and I'd just nailed the 5 beat weave and the 1 handed butterfly on the friday night, I was on a major ego high.
On Friday night, we met up with some other spinners who we'd spoken to earlier and I had a quick spin, not anything good since I couldn't really do that many moves and they wern't fluid or anything.
When I'd finished, the other spinners we were with started up, not trying to show off or anything, and I was completely blown away by how far I had to go.
It was a pretty major reality check and as soon as I got home I ordered the circles of light video to give myself something to aim for I could watch as many times as I wanted.
Since I didn't manage to get their email addresses, or even their names, I'll take this chance to say thanks on the offchance that they're reading. I really needed the wake up call
I've had a kind of similar experience, but watching from the other side.
Last year, a group of friends and I went to a canoeing event in Northampton and we ended up getting there a day early so I broke out the poi I'd taken. I had a set of fire poi and another 2 sets of practice ones, one of my friends had another fire set too.
We did a fair bit of spinning on the Friday night and then a fair bit more during Saturday morning before the event started.
Since I was teaching my friends as much as I could and I'd just nailed the 5 beat weave and the 1 handed butterfly on the friday night, I was on a major ego high.
On Friday night, we met up with some other spinners who we'd spoken to earlier and I had a quick spin, not anything good since I couldn't really do that many moves and they wern't fluid or anything.
When I'd finished, the other spinners we were with started up, not trying to show off or anything, and I was completely blown away by how far I had to go.
It was a pretty major reality check and as soon as I got home I ordered the circles of light video to give myself something to aim for I could watch as many times as I wanted.
Since I didn't manage to get their email addresses, or even their names, I'll take this chance to say thanks on the offchance that they're reading. I really needed the wake up call
But there's no sense crying over every mistake. You just keep on trying till you run out of cake.
member
35 posts
Location: Chicago, IL, USA
35 posts
Location: Chicago, IL, USA
Posted:
I was taught by a group of kids in london that siad to be good at poi you have to be relaxed and sure of yourself. Seems it is alot of presure to carry a Pro status. I'd rather not be the best at it. I'm the best at being myself and thats good enough.
I see alot of battling going on here in the states where kids are trying to show each other up and such. I find I just watch from the crowd.
I don't battle, I perform on stage, staged KungFu is different, and at home. I'm not in poi to make a few friends. It's more meditation and a release of body for me. I enjoy obtaining states of mind while swinging/dancing complicated things around my body while perfectly calm and eyes closed.
I've been a "Pro" skater, Pro was defined by sponserships, and compitition rankings. And how many you did. How well was defined up to the judges, not the competitors. In alot of ways the judges wrote the paychecks.
But I would like to worship that sandel when everyone is done with it.
I was taught by a group of kids in london that siad to be good at poi you have to be relaxed and sure of yourself. Seems it is alot of presure to carry a Pro status. I'd rather not be the best at it. I'm the best at being myself and thats good enough.
I see alot of battling going on here in the states where kids are trying to show each other up and such. I find I just watch from the crowd.
I don't battle, I perform on stage, staged KungFu is different, and at home. I'm not in poi to make a few friends. It's more meditation and a release of body for me. I enjoy obtaining states of mind while swinging/dancing complicated things around my body while perfectly calm and eyes closed.
I've been a "Pro" skater, Pro was defined by sponserships, and compitition rankings. And how many you did. How well was defined up to the judges, not the competitors. In alot of ways the judges wrote the paychecks.
But I would like to worship that sandel when everyone is done with it.
member
750 posts
Location: Adelaide, SA, Australia
750 posts
Location: Adelaide, SA, Australia
Posted:
Ha ha, poi battling - kinda like those old breakdancing battles
Some people are weird!
Ha ha, poi battling - kinda like those old breakdancing battles
Some people are weird!
Courage is the man who can stop after only one peanut
member
406 posts
Location: Charlotte, NC, USA
406 posts
Location: Charlotte, NC, USA
Posted:
Actually, that's exactly where it came from. Breakdancing has made a major re-emergence lately in the States. With breakdancing, battling is part of the culture. You and your "crew" battle with another "crew" for control of the circle. It is a hell of a lot more complicated than anything that could ever be associated with poi. But for some reason, some group of knuckleheads hung out with the breakers one too many times, and then brought it upon themselves to translate competition into spinning. And it doesn't really work. Too many people have the exact same set of moves.
I realized recently that 90% of the "club spinners" in Charlotte were either completely taught or pushed past a 2-beat by me. I don't get invited to battle, I get asked to show new stuff. Or if I do get challenged, I usually decline, offering instead to swap licks or offer pointers. The point is to have a good time. I don't make it a point to ruin someone else's fun by "showing them up." But in the same token, I'm not going to hold back if I'm sharing the dance floor with other spinners.
Actually, that's exactly where it came from. Breakdancing has made a major re-emergence lately in the States. With breakdancing, battling is part of the culture. You and your "crew" battle with another "crew" for control of the circle. It is a hell of a lot more complicated than anything that could ever be associated with poi. But for some reason, some group of knuckleheads hung out with the breakers one too many times, and then brought it upon themselves to translate competition into spinning. And it doesn't really work. Too many people have the exact same set of moves.
I realized recently that 90% of the "club spinners" in Charlotte were either completely taught or pushed past a 2-beat by me. I don't get invited to battle, I get asked to show new stuff. Or if I do get challenged, I usually decline, offering instead to swap licks or offer pointers. The point is to have a good time. I don't make it a point to ruin someone else's fun by "showing them up." But in the same token, I'm not going to hold back if I'm sharing the dance floor with other spinners.
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Pooh-Bah
2,364 posts
Location: austin,tx
2,364 posts
Location: austin,tx
Posted:
really? so you're saying that people are having "poi battles?" wow. now i really am freakin out. poi has gone through so many stages... it's quite fascinating. are they just like break dancing battles? and just watch. the only reason the battles suck now is because there aren't too many people now who are good enough to actually dance while they do poi, but that will change in about 3 years. that's about how long it really takes to get good, 2 months pro-dum my @#%&$ ! (thread ref.) i wonder how break dancing evolved, and if it evolved in the same way that poi and firedancing have. actually some dude is doing a documentary on something like this. i think it has only just begun tho... soon there will be a firedancer on a wheaties box. oh, yeah i just thought of a cool thread.., something i saw at walmart today (yes, i know, forgive me) anyway i'm so shy, i don't really poi with anyone else, and i rarely do it at raves unless it's backstage or behind a tent somewhere. i couldn't imagine getting out and doing it the way they do breakin' battles! guess i'm most comfortable doing it at underground raves, esp. ours.
really? so you're saying that people are having "poi battles?" wow. now i really am freakin out. poi has gone through so many stages... it's quite fascinating. are they just like break dancing battles? and just watch. the only reason the battles suck now is because there aren't too many people now who are good enough to actually dance while they do poi, but that will change in about 3 years. that's about how long it really takes to get good, 2 months pro-dum my @#%&$ ! (thread ref.) i wonder how break dancing evolved, and if it evolved in the same way that poi and firedancing have. actually some dude is doing a documentary on something like this. i think it has only just begun tho... soon there will be a firedancer on a wheaties box. oh, yeah i just thought of a cool thread.., something i saw at walmart today (yes, i know, forgive me) anyway i'm so shy, i don't really poi with anyone else, and i rarely do it at raves unless it's backstage or behind a tent somewhere. i couldn't imagine getting out and doing it the way they do breakin' battles! guess i'm most comfortable doing it at underground raves, esp. ours.
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member
536 posts
Location: carson city, nevada
536 posts
Location: carson city, nevada
Posted:
I've usually found that "battling" if you will is good with your poi friends. since you spin so much with them it helps everybody to achieve better tricks.
I've usually found that "battling" if you will is good with your poi friends. since you spin so much with them it helps everybody to achieve better tricks.
you can't have a war against terrorism because war IS terrorism.it's not about worshipping fire. its about making the fire want to worship you.
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HOP Mad Doctor
13,925 posts
Location: San Francisco, CA, USA
HOP Mad Doctor
13,925 posts
Location: San Francisco, CA, USA
Posted:
Whenever I see another spinner, I'm always watching to learn something new. Nobody carries the exact same bag of tricks and sometimes just watching someone do something shows you that it's possible and you'll just spin until you get it.
Anyways, my friends think I am competing with other spinners, but in reality, we're learning from each-other. The ultimate compliment that I can pay another spinner is "woah! teach me how to do that!"
I won't be immodest; I'm good. But there are a lot of folks out there who are way better than I am. You don't get any better when you are convinced you're the best.
And while others may be better, I can still get wide-eyed "oohs" and "aahs" out of bystanders, and I still finish every good spin with an ear-to-ear grin on my face like this:
That's what it's really about, isn't it?
Peace.
Whenever I see another spinner, I'm always watching to learn something new. Nobody carries the exact same bag of tricks and sometimes just watching someone do something shows you that it's possible and you'll just spin until you get it.
Anyways, my friends think I am competing with other spinners, but in reality, we're learning from each-other. The ultimate compliment that I can pay another spinner is "woah! teach me how to do that!"
I won't be immodest; I'm good. But there are a lot of folks out there who are way better than I am. You don't get any better when you are convinced you're the best.
And while others may be better, I can still get wide-eyed "oohs" and "aahs" out of bystanders, and I still finish every good spin with an ear-to-ear grin on my face like this:
That's what it's really about, isn't it?
Peace.
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
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