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I can't seem to find any moves that blend into this except chasing the sun (the corkscrew basically IS chasing the sun, really) and, a bit messy, the reverse weave...You need both poi moving across your body at the same time, without your arms crossed...thus from butterfly variants it is impossible...You could always wrap, I suppose, but there should be a better way.
I can't seem to find any moves that blend into this except chasing the sun (the corkscrew basically IS chasing the sun, really) and, a bit messy, the reverse weave...You need both poi moving across your body at the same time, without your arms crossed...thus from butterfly variants it is impossible...You could always wrap, I suppose, but there should be a better way.
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Location: Austin TX USA
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Well, there's the windmill, which is basically chasing-the-sun in split time. And there's the weave. It's not hard to go weave > windmill > corkscrew.It is possible to do a sort of half-turn and wrist-flick to change the direction of one chain but not the other, and that would permit you to get from a butterfly-related move into your corkscrew without doing a wrap.
Well, there's the windmill, which is basically chasing-the-sun in split time. And there's the weave. It's not hard to go weave > windmill > corkscrew.It is possible to do a sort of half-turn and wrist-flick to change the direction of one chain but not the other, and that would permit you to get from a butterfly-related move into your corkscrew without doing a wrap.
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hey adam,first i need to say i love your attitude and the way you respond on the board, so thanks (and no, i didn't write this to make you answer my folowing question
)to my qeustion:i am looking for more ways to change the direction of one chain but i didn'r really understand what "a sort of half-turn and wrist-flick " is. would be glad to hear.thanks.
hey adam,first i need to say i love your attitude and the way you respond on the board, so thanks (and no, i didn't write this to make you answer my folowing question
)to my qeustion:i am looking for more ways to change the direction of one chain but i didn'r really understand what "a sort of half-turn and wrist-flick " is. would be glad to hear.thanks. poo-bah
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I have no idea how to describe it--it's something that I discovered I've been doing instinctively.
I have no idea how to describe it--it's something that I discovered I've been doing instinctively.
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A wrist flick, as adam calls it, is when you are doing a move similar to another move, like a windmill to a corkscrew, same thing but different planes around your body, anyway sometimes all it takes to change the direction of the poi is a little jerk of the wrist to give it the momentum it needs to change smoothly. With a five beat weave you use a "wrist flick" to speed one poi up so the other doesn't catch up. When you are doing a five beat weave and one poi is crossing your body and the other is still spinning at it's side you use your wrist to keep the one crossing your body going at the rate of the other poi. With a 4 beat windmill a little "wrist flick" is all it takes to go into, and out of, a quadrople corkscrew. I may not have expained it as you wanted it to be explained, but if anyone else here thinks the way I do, this will make perfect sense.Eric
A wrist flick, as adam calls it, is when you are doing a move similar to another move, like a windmill to a corkscrew, same thing but different planes around your body, anyway sometimes all it takes to change the direction of the poi is a little jerk of the wrist to give it the momentum it needs to change smoothly. With a five beat weave you use a "wrist flick" to speed one poi up so the other doesn't catch up. When you are doing a five beat weave and one poi is crossing your body and the other is still spinning at it's side you use your wrist to keep the one crossing your body going at the rate of the other poi. With a 4 beat windmill a little "wrist flick" is all it takes to go into, and out of, a quadrople corkscrew. I may not have expained it as you wanted it to be explained, but if anyone else here thinks the way I do, this will make perfect sense.Eric
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Actually, Myst, what you describe does *not* change the direction of either chain. It just speeds one up. That could be called a wrist-flick too, although it's not what I had in mind. What I do is (in some cases) turn 90° and make a motion with one wrist that flares out that chain and winds up changing its direction. This is what's involved in going from a butterfly to a weave, or same-direction side circles to opposite-direction side circles, for example. Although it's a little forced, I've been able to use this to go from a windmill to a butterfly and back.
Actually, Myst, what you describe does *not* change the direction of either chain. It just speeds one up. That could be called a wrist-flick too, although it's not what I had in mind. What I do is (in some cases) turn 90° and make a motion with one wrist that flares out that chain and winds up changing its direction. This is what's involved in going from a butterfly to a weave, or same-direction side circles to opposite-direction side circles, for example. Although it's a little forced, I've been able to use this to go from a windmill to a butterfly and back.
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It may not change the direction but it's the same consept. That little burst of speed is all it really needs. Ohhh, gee, I'v never gone from a butterfly to a weave,lol, you have to know a wrist flick to do this smoothly. I was only explaining it as I could. I'm not good at explaining this stuff, so just bear with me. I didn't like how it seemed you were talking down on me. I'll just leave it at that.Eric
It may not change the direction but it's the same consept. That little burst of speed is all it really needs. Ohhh, gee, I'v never gone from a butterfly to a weave,lol, you have to know a wrist flick to do this smoothly. I was only explaining it as I could. I'm not good at explaining this stuff, so just bear with me. I didn't like how it seemed you were talking down on me. I'll just leave it at that.Eric
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Myst--I'm a precise user of language--that's my job. And while I figured that you know the difference, some people here might not, and might have been confused by your post. Which is why I responded.
Myst--I'm a precise user of language--that's my job. And while I figured that you know the difference, some people here might not, and might have been confused by your post. Which is why I responded.
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practice doing the cork srew with short chains. Only aboutfoot long or so. Since they are shorter you can combo in and out of CS to flat spin to saw blades to BF's. The combo's dont transfer over exactly to long chains, but youll learn some of the mechanics and maybe it will generate some ideas since its a little easier.Discovery is Knowledge.."S"------------------"When a Man Lies He Murders Some Part of the World These Are the PaleDeaths Which Men Miscall Their Lives All this I Cannot Bear to Witness Any Longer Cannot the Kingdom of Salvation Take Me Home"
practice doing the cork srew with short chains. Only aboutfoot long or so. Since they are shorter you can combo in and out of CS to flat spin to saw blades to BF's. The combo's dont transfer over exactly to long chains, but youll learn some of the mechanics and maybe it will generate some ideas since its a little easier.Discovery is Knowledge.."S"------------------"When a Man Lies He Murders Some Part of the World These Are the PaleDeaths Which Men Miscall Their Lives All this I Cannot Bear to Witness Any Longer Cannot the Kingdom of Salvation Take Me Home"
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you can go from a weave to a corkcrew or from a windmild to a corkcrew you can even go from a helicopter to a corkcrew wrapping yer one of the poi to yer arm...i recently this did was pretty funny but i dont have any idea if it looks cool or stupid hehe
you can go from a weave to a corkcrew or from a windmild to a corkcrew you can even go from a helicopter to a corkcrew wrapping yer one of the poi to yer arm...i recently this did was pretty funny but i dont have any idea if it looks cool or stupid hehe
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