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This space is for all those funksters busy improving their technique by learning new moves - made-up or traditional.
Tell us all about it! We love hearing about our fellow poiers/staffies/misc. toyers succeeding with new things
It's just hard to keep up with it all sometimes, so if we keep it together you'll be certain to get a little feedback.
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Unofficial Chairperson of Squirrel Defense League
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Location: South Africa
Well, you had a corkscrew on Wednesday.
And you basically have the fountain down.
I am looking forward to seeing what you work on next.
'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
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newbie
42 posts
Location: Manchester/Essen, Germany
Currently trying to transition into s/d crossers smoothly and get the meltdown sorted. I can wrap each side with a beat in between but when i try to take it out things get abit squiffy =(
I've been trying to get out of my weave, reels, TTN comfort zone as i reckon i'm starting to get a wee bit stale, but everytime I try to practice something seriously I just get distracted and end up dancing grrr.
member
161 posts
Location: Durban South Africa
Originally Posted By: astonWell, you had a corkscrew on Wednesday.
And you basically have the fountain down.
I am looking forward to seeing what you work on next.
Fountain needs a LOT of work still... Will spend some time this week practicing it and hopefully get it to look smooth.
I'd like to try figure out butterfly weaves, but the tutorial is a little confusing. It's so pretty when you do it
But we shall see... Unofficial Chairperson of Squirrel Defense League
4,061 posts
Location: South Africa
Stdn: Try some constrained sessions. Basically, put limits on what you can do in a given spin. So for example, only split time moves.
Ash: The butterfly weave can be broken down. Do TTN on one side, then switch. Do TTN for a while there and switch. Eventually you can cut down on the amount of time spent doing TTN.
'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland
member
161 posts
Location: Durban South Africa
Quick question, do you end up doing forwards TTN, then when you switch, end up with backwards TTN?
Unofficial Chairperson of Squirrel Defense League
4,061 posts
Location: South Africa
Yes.
The ah-ha moment for me was when I realised that your arms do a forward weave on one side and a reverse weave on the other.
'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland
member
161 posts
Location: Durban South Africa
Cool, will mission with this and hopefully have something down by the next time I see you.
Thank you friend :)x The Death Card
195 posts
Location: Minneapolis, MN USA
have fun with the fountain, ash. I think it's one of the first big "ooh, aah" moves. it's really visually pleasing.
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Unofficial Chairperson of Squirrel Defense League
4,061 posts
Location: South Africa
Also, a useful building block for flowers.
Hmm.... I have worked out a rough analogue to the fountain in opposites. A bit tricky for me still, but doubt it is that hard really.
'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland
Juggler/Spinner
612 posts
Location: Hicksville, New York, USA
Originally Posted By: Ash3sOriginally Posted By: astonWell, you had a corkscrew on Wednesday.
And you basically have the fountain down.
I am looking forward to seeing what you work on next.
Fountain needs a LOT of work still... Will spend some time this week practicing it and hopefully get it to look smooth.
I'd like to try figure out butterfly weaves, but the tutorial is a little confusing. It's so pretty when you do it
But we shall see... About the TTN weave....
I've watched a few tutorials and found a few to be misleading.
Just some things to mention, if you are doing TTN, you can turn right or left and being doing a forwards weave. Also, you can turn right or left and being doing a reverse weave. You can of course do a fountain with a TTN weave if you like, Forwards TTN weave, to reverse TTN weave, to over your head and back to Forwads again. (Not to be confused with somehow doing a Forward TTN on both sides of your body, it will switch between forward and reverse TTN). When I refer to a weave, I refer only to the way your hands/arms move.
I found trying TTN in front of me and turning 180 degrees (moving the poi at the same time), doing a TTN on the side of me and simply moving the poi (no body turn), and of course doing a TTN in front of me, then moving it behind me with minimal turning of the waist helped me to get more consistant results...
Sorry about rambling about.... where am I? *looks around*
Oooh, dinner time. Be well!
The Death Card
195 posts
Location: Minneapolis, MN USA
dear btb weave,
you suck. why can't you be more like your brother, the 5bt weave? or your cousin, the btb butterfly? honestly, I feel like you're just being difficult for the sake of being difficult. cut it out.
sincerely,
thirteen
The dawn has come
And the wine will run
And the song must be sung
And the flowers are melting
In the sun
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1,277 posts
Location: Seattle, WA, USA
Hang in there! It may take time (I had a lot of more advanced stuff down well before I could do btb reliably), but sooner or later it will click. For me, practicing the 2bt for a while helped me get the rhythm, and exaggerating my hand motions helped with plane control. Good luck!
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The Death Card
195 posts
Location: Minneapolis, MN USA
thanks for the words of encouragement. you're right, it's just going to take time and practice... I have been a fast learner with most poi stuff so it's humbling to run into something that doesn't come to me so quickly. and that's a good thing for my ego anyway.
I'm feeling better though because I JUST DID MY FIRST SPIRAL WRAP! it's not quite up to snuff yet - getting out of it is a lot messier than getting in - but still! I've been looking forward to this day since the first time I saw someone do them. I'm gonna keep practicing, hopefully I can make it solid in time for tonight's spin jam.
The dawn has come
And the wine will run
And the song must be sung
And the flowers are melting
In the sun
Momma Hooza
24 posts
Location: Cleveland OK, USA
tryin to get the reverse ttn, making me very angry but almost got it, keep gettin tangled, gggrrr
Juggler/Spinner
612 posts
Location: Hicksville, New York, USA
This might not initially sound like "Beginner" but it so is.
I learned how to do a 1 handed Static spin vs Extension....
... by tucking the usually-held end of one of my poi into my belt and holding the head of that poi and the handle of the other in one hand.... NOW, what do I do with the other hand? In practice I just patted myself on the head. ^_^
Life's Student
28 posts
Location: Mesa, AZ, USA
After constantly hitting myself in the back of the head, I finally achieved the angel wings xD Now to get hyperloops and orbitals down pat >.<
-Honii
Just keep swinging, just keep swinging...
member
161 posts
Location: Durban South Africa
I'm learning the "Split time swishy swishy butterfly thingy"... have all the pieces, now just need to connect all of them
Aston does it beautifully... *so jealous* Unofficial Chairperson of Squirrel Defense League
4,061 posts
Location: South Africa
Meshunderlay: That is you? Cool.
Ash: Bwahahaha. I like Durbs' name for it too.
'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland
enthusiast
378 posts
Location: NSW, Australia
Sounds fun, whatisit???
Unofficial Chairperson of Squirrel Defense League
4,061 posts
Location: South Africa
Split-time antispin opposites wallplane flower. Or something like that.
Look for Durbs' tuts on youtube, it is one of them.
'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland
enthusiast
378 posts
Location: NSW, Australia
Sounds fun - I ignored split time opposites for quite a while but have been getting back in to them recently.
The Death Card
195 posts
Location: Minneapolis, MN USA
split-time opposites is badass. spiral wraps, air wraps, stall patterns, so much fun to be had.
The dawn has come
And the wine will run
And the song must be sung
And the flowers are melting
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Juggler/Spinner
612 posts
Location: Hicksville, New York, USA
Originally Posted By: thirteensplit-time opposites is badass. spiral wraps, air wraps, stall patterns, so much fun to be had.
Wraps in Split-Opposites? How's that work?
enthusiast
378 posts
Location: NSW, Australia
Originally Posted By: meshunderlay
Originally Posted By: thirteensplit-time opposites is badass. spiral wraps, air wraps, stall patterns, so much fun to be had.
Wraps in Split-Opposites? How's that work?
My thought too - I've always done spiral wraps and tangly things from split time same direction...???
newbie
28 posts
Location: Kansas City, MO, USA
I've gotten them to work from same time opposites. You have to kinda get one hand out there a bit farther then the other to keep the poi from tangling. Had moderate success with it so far. Not enough to do it on fire yet.
Haven't tried split time, but I'd venture to say its the same thing, just put one hand about 1-2 inches farther out in front then the other.
I'd say the distance is probably determined by the size of the poi heads to keep them from hitting at the end.
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Unofficial Chairperson of Squirrel Defense League
4,061 posts
Location: South Africa
Spiral wraps are tricky, not really done those, but other wraps work.
'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland
The Death Card
195 posts
Location: Minneapolis, MN USA
you know what, I was thinking of split-time same direction. I get confused on the modes when they're in a wall plane together.
The dawn has come
And the wine will run
And the song must be sung
And the flowers are melting
In the sun
Unofficial Chairperson of Squirrel Defense League
4,061 posts
Location: South Africa
Heheh. No worries.
'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland
member
161 posts
Location: Durban South Africa
ISOLATIONS! Now if I can just figure out how to move them together without the poi bumping into each other... hmmm...
I managed to (and it was a COMPLETE fluke) do the spiral hand wrap thingy... once last night... once. When I realised that they were actually wrapping around my hands properly I was like "!!!WTF!!!" and then they got stuck and didn't unwrap. But they did wrap... and everytime I tried it after that it didn't work, and I have no idea what I did to get them to wrap properly in the first place... *bangs head on desk repeatedly*
Unofficial Chairperson of Squirrel Defense League
4,061 posts
Location: South Africa
Will break it down for you some tomorrow.
The most important bit is to have properly clean front planes. It may also help to tilt your hands up a little, so that they do not fall off. To get them to unwrap, you need to make sure that you have at least some space for your hands to open, which means that you open them earlier than you think. The "What are you working on" thread has a cool drill from MNS that you may like to look at as well. Basically try same direction spinning in wall plane and switch which poi is in front and which behind.
'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland
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