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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Location: Cambridge UK
Carpal \'Tunnel
2,895 posts
Location: Cambridge UK
Posted:
it's not a staff, it's a plane!
it's not a staff, it's a plane!
Because ActiveAngel sounds like a feminine deodorant
Like sex, I'm much more interesting in real life than online.
'Be the change you want to see in the world around you' - Ghandi
BRONZE Member
1 + 1 = 3
3,540 posts
Location: Bristol UK
1 + 1 = 3
3,540 posts
Location: Bristol UK
Posted:
Is it really necessary for people to continue slating this guy now?
Come on, we've already frightened the guy away.
Is it really necessary for people to continue slating this guy now?
Come on, we've already frightened the guy away.
Empty your mind. Be formless, Shapeless, like Water.
Put Water into a cup, it becomes the cup, put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, put water into a teapot, it becomes the teapot.
Water can flow, or it can Crash.
Be Water My Friend.
GOLD Member
Carpal \'Tunnel
2,895 posts
Location: Cambridge UK
Carpal \'Tunnel
2,895 posts
Location: Cambridge UK
Posted:
my last comment was intended purely as a joke:
but yeah, I kind of feel for the guy. A little bit. Just remember kids, market research pays off!
TBH I've been keeping an eye on his site and forum just to see how he's getting on, but I fear this guy has really shot himself in the foot financially.
Oh and if you want a bit of a giggle, check the websites of his latest forum members: they're really hilarious!
my last comment was intended purely as a joke:
but yeah, I kind of feel for the guy. A little bit. Just remember kids, market research pays off!
TBH I've been keeping an eye on his site and forum just to see how he's getting on, but I fear this guy has really shot himself in the foot financially.
Oh and if you want a bit of a giggle, check the websites of his latest forum members: they're really hilarious!
Because ActiveAngel sounds like a feminine deodorant
Like sex, I'm much more interesting in real life than online.
'Be the change you want to see in the world around you' - Ghandi
BRONZE Member
old hand
1,174 posts
Location: Great Malvern [UK]
old hand
1,174 posts
Location: Great Malvern [UK]
Posted:
I was merely trying to give some constructive criticism as to why people have reacted in the way that they have. It was not my intention to 'slate the guy', just to try and explain to him where he is (in my opinion) going wrong...
I was merely trying to give some constructive criticism as to why people have reacted in the way that they have. It was not my intention to 'slate the guy', just to try and explain to him where he is (in my opinion) going wrong...
Cake or Death?
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Classically British
5,689 posts
Location: Epsom, Surrey, England
Classically British
5,689 posts
Location: Epsom, Surrey, England
Posted:
Quite.
I think it's testament to Jon that as he said, people have applied equally cynical eyes at Hyperlights and he hasn't been slated in any shape or form.
(Though seriously Jon, get on with it )
Market research (and well, market knowledge...) are a must when trying to market new props.
Quite.
I think it's testament to Jon that as he said, people have applied equally cynical eyes at Hyperlights and he hasn't been slated in any shape or form.
(Though seriously Jon, get on with it
)Market research (and well, market knowledge...) are a must when trying to market new props.
Burner of Toast
Spinner of poi
Slacker of enormous magnitude
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old hand
1,174 posts
Location: Great Malvern [UK]
old hand
1,174 posts
Location: Great Malvern [UK]
Posted:
*grumble..* *..gets back to work*
*grumble..* *..gets back to work*
Cake or Death?
BRONZE Member
1 + 1 = 3
3,540 posts
Location: Bristol UK
1 + 1 = 3
3,540 posts
Location: Bristol UK
Posted:
My post wasn't aimed at anyone in particular...
i could just see the way this thread was heading...
My post wasn't aimed at anyone in particular...
i could just see the way this thread was heading...
Empty your mind. Be formless, Shapeless, like Water.
Put Water into a cup, it becomes the cup, put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, put water into a teapot, it becomes the teapot.
Water can flow, or it can Crash.
Be Water My Friend.
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(...trusty steed of the rodeo midget...)
403 posts
Location: the state of flux, Ireland
(...trusty steed of the rodeo midget...)
403 posts
Location: the state of flux, Ireland
Posted:
Heading?
more like ""Headed" and "Reached"
Poor guy, hope he didn't invest too much money in them.
M.
Heading?
more like ""Headed" and "Reached"
Poor guy, hope he didn't invest too much money in them.
M.
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Pooh-Bah
1,872 posts
Location: Canada
Pooh-Bah
1,872 posts
Location: Canada
Posted:
These may be an already existing product ( in India ) that's been imported for sale in the west. There's probably a higher investment in labour for marketing these things than there is an investment in cash to develop and package the product. Any guesses as to what these things wholesale for ?
The main problem, as I see it, is the " If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit", marketing ploy.
These may be an already existing product ( in India ) that's been imported for sale in the west. There's probably a higher investment in labour for marketing these things than there is an investment in cash to develop and package the product. Any guesses as to what these things wholesale for ?
The main problem, as I see it, is the " If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit", marketing ploy.
GOLD Member
Carpal \'Tunnel
2,895 posts
Location: Cambridge UK
Carpal \'Tunnel
2,895 posts
Location: Cambridge UK
Posted:
Did I just imagine a post...
Did I just imagine a post...
Because ActiveAngel sounds like a feminine deodorant
Like sex, I'm much more interesting in real life than online.
'Be the change you want to see in the world around you' - Ghandi
SILVER Member
what goes around comes around. unless you're into stalls.
4,030 posts
Location: Bali, Australia
what goes around comes around. unless you're into stalls.
4,030 posts
Location: Bali, Australia
Posted:
Yes! I made one suggesting the whole thing was a satire and linking to what must be the worst promotional/spin vids ever made. But it seems one must embed (or whatever the word is) vid links these days cause the post just came up with massess of space instead of a blue linky thing.
But as I look further, it seems that flyingpoiguy has come across one chap in India who does basic moves very fast, with silly equipment, and decided that this is the state of the art that the rest of the world should admire.
No, a 'regular' poi (eg sock poi) has momentum. Working with that momentum is what gives elegance to spinning, and leads into a whole world of isolations, loops, wraps stalls etc. You can also SEE 'regular poi' rather than the persons hands/body twisting around which is mostly what i see in these vids.
Um. Try wibbles. Or any other handle weighted poi. However the weight ratio is still that the head of the poi needs to be heavier than the handles to have a nice movement.
I had a look at the instructional section of the site. (um...) Using a toy aeroplane on a string means that the standard poi tech term 'plane' has to be replaced by the clumsy 'axis circle'. Another leap backwards methinks. Leap in a teacup seeing that poi terms are hardly the stuff that empires fall on, but still. Annoying. Not so much reinventing the wheel as replacing it with a paper plate.
I rather like spinning teddy bears on strings. Winnie the Poi.
Yes! I made one suggesting the whole thing was a satire and linking to what must be the worst promotional/spin vids ever made. But it seems one must embed (or whatever the word is) vid links these days cause the post just came up with massess of space instead of a blue linky thing.
But as I look further, it seems that flyingpoiguy has come across one chap in India who does basic moves very fast, with silly equipment, and decided that this is the state of the art that the rest of the world should admire.
Written by: FlyingPoiGuy
A regular poi is just dead weight in the air.
No, a 'regular' poi (eg sock poi) has momentum. Working with that momentum is what gives elegance to spinning, and leads into a whole world of isolations, loops, wraps stalls etc. You can also SEE 'regular poi' rather than the persons hands/body twisting around which is mostly what i see in these vids.
Written by: FlyingPoiGuy
Hyperplanes have different way to be controlled. The handles have some weight so you can throw the whole Hyperplane in the air and it will keep turning, and then catch it again.
Um. Try wibbles. Or any other handle weighted poi. However the weight ratio is still that the head of the poi needs to be heavier than the handles to have a nice movement.
I had a look at the instructional section of the site. (um...) Using a toy aeroplane on a string means that the standard poi tech term 'plane' has to be replaced by the clumsy 'axis circle'. Another leap backwards methinks. Leap in a teacup seeing that poi terms are hardly the stuff that empires fall on, but still. Annoying. Not so much reinventing the wheel as replacing it with a paper plate.
I rather like spinning teddy bears on strings. Winnie the Poi.
.....Can't juggle balls but I sure as hell can juggle details....
SILVER Member
what goes around comes around. unless you're into stalls.
4,030 posts
Location: Bali, Australia
what goes around comes around. unless you're into stalls.
4,030 posts
Location: Bali, Australia
Posted:
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Post deleted by newgabe
.....Can't juggle balls but I sure as hell can juggle details....
GOLD Member
still can't believe it's not butter
6,978 posts
Location: Melbourne, Australia
still can't believe it's not butter
6,978 posts
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posted:
this has turned out to be such a robert heart thread.
this has turned out to be such a robert heart thread.
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old hand
904 posts
Location: India/Bristol
old hand
904 posts
Location: India/Bristol
Posted:
I agree Bender - Theres a difference between constructive criticism and blatant badgering.
For me its entertaining to read, for the other guy its gonna mean years of counselling!!
I dont think he's gonna post on here again, so dont know wether all you guys 'advice' is really worthwhile now.
Remind me never to ask for constructive criticism here!!
Anyone heard of the sandwich technique + - +
Anyone seen Robert Heart about by the way? or has he crawled away in despair aswell?......Unlikely (OOOoooohhh you BITCH!)
Peas out
I agree Bender - Theres a difference between constructive criticism and blatant badgering.
For me its entertaining to read, for the other guy its gonna mean years of counselling!!
I dont think he's gonna post on here again, so dont know wether all you guys 'advice' is really worthwhile now.
Remind me never to ask for constructive criticism here!!
Anyone heard of the sandwich technique + - +
Anyone seen Robert Heart about by the way? or has he crawled away in despair aswell?......Unlikely (OOOoooohhh you BITCH!)
Peas out
Feel the Flame
Phirenix
SILVER Member
what goes around comes around. unless you're into stalls.
4,030 posts
Location: Bali, Australia
what goes around comes around. unless you're into stalls.
4,030 posts
Location: Bali, Australia
Posted:
This chap has done the equivalent of going on a bonsai site and asking for people's opinion of a plastic christmas tree.
I doubt that he will need counselling over it, Rob. I think people have been fairly nice, and tried to give reasonable feedback and advice, considering the quality of the product and its promotion. We are after all on a site which tries to do things well. Inhabited by a bunch of folks who take swinging things round on strings rather seriously!
This chap has done the equivalent of going on a bonsai site and asking for people's opinion of a plastic christmas tree.
I doubt that he will need counselling over it, Rob. I think people have been fairly nice, and tried to give reasonable feedback and advice, considering the quality of the product and its promotion. We are after all on a site which tries to do things well. Inhabited by a bunch of folks who take swinging things round on strings rather seriously!
.....Can't juggle balls but I sure as hell can juggle details....
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Lambretta Fanatic
4,998 posts
Location: United Kingdom
Lambretta Fanatic
4,998 posts
Location: United Kingdom
Posted:
I don't regret or withdraw any comment I've posted here.
I have an opinion, I have the right to post it within reason.
Until an Admin tells me I've overstepped the mark, I shall post with tranquillity.
Doesn't take a physicist to work out how big this community is to know that he might get slated for his posts and products. MHO!.
I don't regret or withdraw any comment I've posted here.
I have an opinion, I have the right to post it within reason.
Until an Admin tells me I've overstepped the mark, I shall post with tranquillity.
Doesn't take a physicist to work out how big this community is to know that he might get slated for his posts and products. MHO!.
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Location: South Wales
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Location: South Wales
Posted:
(miss you Peekay
)
(miss you Peekay
) BRONZE Member
Lambretta Fanatic
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Location: United Kingdom
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Location: United Kingdom
Posted:
Written by: UnbearablyColdOrFreezing
(miss you Peekay
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Sitting down facing forward . . .
2,387 posts
Location: Christchurch, New Zealand
Sitting down facing forward . . .
2,387 posts
Location: Christchurch, New Zealand
Posted:
Ooooh, PK - is that a challenge??!!
Ok, has everyone quite had enough fun at the poor mans expense? The consensus seem to think so, so I'm locking this thread.
George
Written by: PK_
Until an Admin tells me I've overstepped the mark, I shall post with tranquillity.
Ooooh, PK - is that a challenge??!!
Ok, has everyone quite had enough fun at the poor mans expense? The consensus seem to think so, so I'm locking this thread.
George
Written by: Doc Lightning talking about Marmite in Kichi's Intro thread
I have several large jars of the stuff. I actually like it... a little. And don't tell anyone I admitted to it. 
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