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Sounds like hype to me. I'll be willing to bet my next shows gold that most accidents happen because of inexperience and bad or no training at all. With proper training it becomes no more dangerous than any other fire art.
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Written by: OWD
I would not employ a fire-breather and, if performing, would refuse to work with one
After much consideration, I find that the view is worth the asphyxiation.
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If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
After much consideration, I find that the view is worth the asphyxiation.
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Written by: Valura
Pele took every precaution possible and the wind is what caused her accident, definatly NOT her lack of training.
Last I checked the weather is not something that you can control through training.
Written by: SethisWritten by: OWD
I would not employ a fire-breather and, if performing, would refuse to work with one
(out of real interest)
Why? Why wouldn't you work with a fire breather? Surely the vast proportion of the risk is to the performer themselves, for whom you are not responsible? Admittedly, if the performer was ignoring basic safety and generally being inconsiderate/dangerous then I would agree completely. However I'm not sure why you wouldn't work on the same gig as someone who was professional in attitude, took themselves and their work seriously and just do what they enjoy.
Written by: Sethis
Admittedly, if the performer was ignoring basic safety and generally being inconsiderate/dangerous then I would agree completely. However I'm not sure why you wouldn't work on the same gig as someone who was professional in attitude, took themselves and their work seriously and just do what they enjoy.
Written by: Sethis
I acknowledge that you are entitled to your opinion that fire-breathing is talentless/dirty etc etc etc but as a fire breather myself (sometimes), then I would now feel uncomfortable talking to you, because I would always feel that I was doing something that would lower your opinion of me. I don't want to feel that reviled just for doing something I enjoy and presents (relatively) minimal risk to anyone other than myself.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
Written by: Spiderbaby
I wasnt properly trained but common sense tells me not to inhale until the fire and main cloud of vapour has disappated.
Im not saying my method is perfect or 100% safe but in pele's situation i would have just gotten fuel on my face and not been hurt.
Sure the weather cant be controled but if you dont inhale until the main vapour cloud is gone even the strongest gust of wind wont send fuel down your throat.
"Ours is not to question The Head; it is enough to revel in the ubiquitous inanity of The Head, the unwanted proximity of The Head, the unrelenting HellPresence of The Head, indeed the very UNYIELDING IRRELEVANCE of The Head!" --Revelation X
Written by: Gnarly Cranium
Myself, I'm amazed it's even legal.
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Written by: NYCWritten by: Scorched_Out
Myself and my team put on an hour long show that will make you stand in awe. Pyromancer is awesome! Im better. And I got the flames to prove it.
I'll bet your crew could kick my ass at counterstrike too.
My ADD makes it so that.....Ooooo SHINY.....wanna go ride bikes....wait....where am I.....
TAJ "boat mummy." VALURA "yes sweetie you went on a boat, was daddy there with you?" TAJ "no, but monkey on boat" VALURA "well then sweetie, Daddy WAS there with you"
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Written by: OWD
Let me qualify my original post- if I was doing more fire performing and doing it for responsible corporate employers (who pay proper rates and check insurance etc) I would not have a problem being on the same bill as a professional fire-breather.
Written by: OWD
I simply do not like fire-breathing, that's my opinion and I'm sure, if you were interested enough in talking to me in the first place, that the fact i hold an opinion you disagree with, is not grounds for a problem?
After much consideration, I find that the view is worth the asphyxiation.
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Written by: Sethis
Sure it isn't, I just meant that I would feel uneasy talking to someone who had such a low opinion of something I enjoy so much, and who knew I did it... kinda like asking my old headmaster for time to practice in a band during lessons
I'm sorry that there are so many fire breathers out there who teach people indiscriminantly and in an unsafe manner. It's certainly nothing I'd ever do, and I feel a bit ashamed that there are such idiots among our numbers.
All I can say is that it's a new experience for me to be so... alienated? Reveiled? Condemned? None of those words are really accurate for what I mean. I just get a sense that lots of people don't like Fire breathing, (which is fair enough) but more to the point don't like fire breathers either. I've never felt that in any other aspect of my life and it's a little unsettling. Sometimes I feel when I say "I fire breathe" on here that it's like admitting to a filthy habit, like picking your nose and wiping it under the table (which I don't do ).
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
Written by: owd
This is particularly the case with night clubs/pubs, and there is no shortage of amateurs who will glady do the gig for free admitance and free drinks!
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Written by: Scorched_Out
Sounds like hype to me. I'll be willing to bet my next shows gold that most accidents happen because of inexperience and bad or no training at all. With proper training it becomes no more dangerous than any other fire art. Chem flu?....hehehe...oooooooooooook
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Written by: BirgitWritten by: owd
This is particularly the case with night clubs/pubs, and there is no shortage of amateurs who will glady do the gig for free admitance and free drinks!
That's unfortunately true. Our juggling soc gets asked a lot to perform for drinks and maybe paraffin, but whenever we tell them that we can't afford insurance and won't perform without it, but they might be able to insure their event, we don't even get a reply anymore.
Let alone that saying "have some alcohol and then go and spin" is maybe not the right attitude.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
Written by: Scorched_Out
Good God!!! This thread has gotten out of control!!!
Ok..ok, when I posted this thread I simply meant to object to the fact that firebreathing has this huge danger label pasted all over it while the other fire arts don't. Thats it!
I appologize to Pele, all site admins and users, and fire artists at large. I meant no disrespect. I meant no war. I know how dangerous the art is. IT'S JUST AS DANGEROUS AS ALL THE OTHER FIRE ARTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Written by: Scorched_Out
With this I will exit HOP
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
Written by: Scorched_Out
I know how dangerous the art is. IT'S JUST AS DANGEROUS AS ALL THE OTHER FIRE ARTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I know what chemical pneumonia is (actually lipid pneumonia is a more suitable term for the condition caused by the inhalation of oils into the bronchial tree) and I know what Acute Respiritory Disease Syndrome is. I also know that steps may be taken to lesson the risk of this deadly disease. If not stop it all together.
"Ours is not to question The Head; it is enough to revel in the ubiquitous inanity of The Head, the unwanted proximity of The Head, the unrelenting HellPresence of The Head, indeed the very UNYIELDING IRRELEVANCE of The Head!" --Revelation X
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With this I will exit HOP
The existance of flamethrowers says that someone, somewhere, at sometime said "I need to set that thing on fire, but it's too far away."
Written by: Gnarly Cranium
Somebody was just saying that the cloud of fuel can hang in the air for something like 20 seconds-- that's a long while to hold your breath while performing.
Besides, whether or not she or you or anybody COULD have avoided that particular problem by doing something a little bit different that time (not that anybody has any business saying so if they weren't THERE),
Myself, I'm amazed it's even legal.
Written by: Gnarly Cranium
Myself, I'm amazed it's even legal.
Written by: Spiderbaby
I have to say the idea of outlawing firebreathing is ricockulous, why cant people take responsibility for thier own actions. Why must other people impose their views on others? Why is everything today someone elses fault?
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Its strange how fire breathing is such a big issue on hop it overshadows the dangers of other arts
"Ours is not to question The Head; it is enough to revel in the ubiquitous inanity of The Head, the unwanted proximity of The Head, the unrelenting HellPresence of The Head, indeed the very UNYIELDING IRRELEVANCE of The Head!" --Revelation X
After much consideration, I find that the view is worth the asphyxiation.
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