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Posted:
Well, seeing as we are starting to take over the
"Offical HOP "I just learnt a new move" thread", I thought we should contain this bit just to jugglerisng and the throwing and dropping of balls, clubs, rings and other miscellaneous juggling props.
Today I mothered learning 441.
I had a few throws of 531 but only 1 catch. I think my 5 is too high.
Note for the mods: I DEMAND on behalf of the jugglers on this site, as has been done with the aforementioned "Poi moves thread", that this one is made a sticky thread.
Otherwise its just favouritism really....
Well, seeing as we are starting to take over the
"Offical HOP "I just learnt a new move" thread", I thought we should contain this bit just to jugglerisng and the throwing and dropping of balls, clubs, rings and other miscellaneous juggling props.
Today I mothered learning 441.
I had a few throws of 531 but only 1 catch. I think my 5 is too high.
Note for the mods: I DEMAND on behalf of the jugglers on this site, as has been done with the aforementioned "Poi moves thread", that this one is made a sticky thread.
Otherwise its just favouritism really....
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Posted:
yeah, but it was spinning poi that started me off thinking about the whole thing in the first place,
and the fact the those guys all care about who owns the record for juggling the most balls and all those compatetive typey things means that it doesn't really matter what they think anyway :-) hehehe
although saying that i'm certain that i only want to know so that i can be the ultimate in soopa doopa megaly wegaly curley wurley trippy juggling patterns, 5 ball mills mess here i come :-(in my dreams)
EDITED_BY: Megafish (1101065126)
yeah, but it was spinning poi that started me off thinking about the whole thing in the first place,
and the fact the those guys all care about who owns the record for juggling the most balls and all those compatetive typey things means that it doesn't really matter what they think anyway :-) hehehe
although saying that i'm certain that i only want to know so that i can be the ultimate in soopa doopa megaly wegaly curley wurley trippy juggling patterns, 5 ball mills mess here i come :-(in my dreams)
EDITED_BY: Megafish (1101065126)
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Posted:
Try poking them with a stick.
Written by: Mech
how can i get my clubs down?
Try poking them with a stick.
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Posted:
emptying a small amount of the helium from them can sometimes helps,
(whats that, we're not allowed to talk about that?)
emptying a small amount of the helium from them can sometimes helps,
(whats that, we're not allowed to talk about that?)
Juggling isn't useless, It just isn't useful.
Neural Coding is Idiosyncratic:-)
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Posted:
yes we are.
No one except a few know what you are tealking about...and some one them wont come in here.
Well, that the way I figure.
yes we are.
No one except a few know what you are tealking about...and some one them wont come in here.
Well, that the way I figure.
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Posted:
what are you talking about, just coz your a dirty wreck head hippy who likes filling your brain with laughing gas and looking at all the pretty patterns does not mean that i am; well maybe it does + the post does say they that most of the time mech is juggling high, which really is the best way of getting a pattern to look good :-)
EDITED_BY: Megafish (1101068144)
what are you talking about, just coz your a dirty wreck head hippy who likes filling your brain with laughing gas and looking at all the pretty patterns does not mean that i am; well maybe it does + the post does say they that most of the time mech is juggling high, which really is the best way of getting a pattern to look good :-)
EDITED_BY: Megafish (1101068144)
Juggling isn't useless, It just isn't useful.
Neural Coding is Idiosyncratic:-)
'Do you like dry cerial? Hope so because we've drunk your milk. Yours Sincerely, Your Neighbourhood Milk Thief'
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Posted:
I dont though.
My concsience is clean of***.
Bloody Hippy.
I dont though.
My concsience is clean of***.
Bloody Hippy.
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Posted:
filthy bloomin'........poi person,
why don't you F*** off and spin some Poi
filthy bloomin'........poi person,
why don't you F*** off and spin some Poi
Juggling isn't useless, It just isn't useful.
Neural Coding is Idiosyncratic:-)
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Posted:
OK then.
*does so*
but only cos I want to, and not beuase you told me to.
OK then.
*does so*
but only cos I want to, and not beuase you told me to.
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Posted:
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Posted:
I think I see your problem...
Written by: Mech
i find most of the time im juggling high
I think I see your problem...
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Posted:
to defend my point on ball arcs,
its not that they defy gravity, or the laws of physics but (going on conversations with certain good jugglers, and staff, and reading stuff (yes i can read nx, just cant spell!!)) the arc that a ball moves in when you throw it is shallower on return with a Russian ball
so if you throw from point a to point be in an arc with a ball it will form an arc, with a peak called x
if you tried this with a Russian ball when it reaches x the arc down to b will be a little more shallow, due to it will fall more in a straight line than an arc, as the way it is weighted makes it do this
i played with a set out in oz, in juggle art,a nd along side the weird rissian clubs they had (very nicely made, custom lengths for diff jugglers, but as ugly as my arse in winter), the Russian prop range is a strange thing to play with!
still ill shut up now....
(feel free to take the piss out of me)
to defend my point on ball arcs,
its not that they defy gravity, or the laws of physics but (going on conversations with certain good jugglers, and staff, and reading stuff (yes i can read nx, just cant spell!!)) the arc that a ball moves in when you throw it is shallower on return with a Russian ball
so if you throw from point a to point be in an arc with a ball it will form an arc, with a peak called x
if you tried this with a Russian ball when it reaches x the arc down to b will be a little more shallow, due to it will fall more in a straight line than an arc, as the way it is weighted makes it do this
i played with a set out in oz, in juggle art,a nd along side the weird rissian clubs they had (very nicely made, custom lengths for diff jugglers, but as ugly as my arse in winter), the Russian prop range is a strange thing to play with!
still ill shut up now....
(feel free to take the piss out of me)
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Posted:
still waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off topic guys.
i know what you mean mech, but i think you're wrong, dxs arenot like that imo.
but still
still waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off topic guys.
i know what you mean mech, but i think you're wrong, dxs arenot like that imo.
but still
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Posted:
so back to topic, i felt really good last night as i think i got 50 odd catches with mill mess, after not parcticing it for anout a month!
but hten ucof showed me this https://jugglinglab.sourceforge.net/bin/example_gen.html
and i think im doing some weird stupid thing fo rmy mills mess!
so back to topic, i felt really good last night as i think i got 50 odd catches with mill mess, after not parcticing it for anout a month!
but hten ucof showed me this https://jugglinglab.sourceforge.net/bin/example_gen.html
and i think im doing some weird stupid thing fo rmy mills mess!
Step (el-nombrie)
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Posted:
Off topic?
Well wasnt the "I just learnt a new move" in the poi section oh so very slightly off topic? But we have already argued that until we went blue in the face.
This is the juggling I just learnt a new move thread.
I have not learnt much with juggling altely, other than that Im rubbish and need to pratice more.
Off topic?
Well wasnt the "I just learnt a new move" in the poi section oh so very slightly off topic? But we have already argued that until we went blue in the face.
This is the juggling I just learnt a new move thread.
I have not learnt much with juggling altely, other than that Im rubbish and need to pratice more.
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Posted:
Now that i own some clubs...
I learnt to juggle 3 clubs last night
Now that i own some clubs...
I learnt to juggle 3 clubs last night
Never pick up a duck in a dungeon...
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Posted:
Yay for Pink! Well done! Juggling clubs is not as easy as SOME people would have you believe! Three cheers for pink!
ps. are they pink clubs? if so, double Yay!
ps. love the new sig
Yay for Pink! Well done! Juggling clubs is not as easy as SOME people would have you believe! Three cheers for pink!
ps. are they pink clubs? if so, double Yay!
ps. love the new sig
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Posted:
for miss pink - you're one of us nooooooooow...
megafish - the logical extension from the tricks you listed is not 6223223.
i reckon if you follow the pattern, you get this:
3
423
52233
6222333
722223333
...
they all work
for the reason that 6223223 doesn't work, look at the 223223 part - think where the balls would end up...
no siteswap is invalid - there are just some that aren't quite finished.
you can make that one work by changing a number and adding a multiplex.
there's a crap prize for the first person to give me a variation on that trick that is a valid 3b siteswap
mech - the reason the russian balls have an arc that is not a parabola is because they are not 'solid'.
they are stage balls that are partially sand filled.
the loose sand inside affects the arc of the ball on the return but dx's shouldn't react like this as their filling is packed and as such has no room to move around inside the ball.
rob - you're getting new tricks at a crazy rate - despite the freezing cold, rain and impending winter. 
i reckon you're learning new stuff fast enough for requests now...
so, please can you learn (4x,4x) on doubles with alternating left and right hand backcrosses for one of the throws?
its lovely - northern can kinda do it with balls but i'd like to see it done with clubs by someone i know
and just to keep this partially on-topic (although look at the first page if you wanna see how on-topic it ever was here), i'm working on:
5b inverse cascade [nowhere near]
64 [closeish]
4b fountain with every throw as a reverse shoulder throw [nowhere near]
4b mills [nowhere near]
reverse luke's shuffle [one side sorted, other side hopeless]
3up half pirouette to contortion [did it once, now for some reason i think its a good idea to try and get it solid]
cole. x
for miss pink - you're one of us nooooooooow...megafish - the logical extension from the tricks you listed is not 6223223.
i reckon if you follow the pattern, you get this:
3
423
52233
6222333
722223333
...
they all work
for the reason that 6223223 doesn't work, look at the 223223 part - think where the balls would end up...
no siteswap is invalid - there are just some that aren't quite finished.
you can make that one work by changing a number and adding a multiplex.
there's a crap prize for the first person to give me a variation on that trick that is a valid 3b siteswap
mech - the reason the russian balls have an arc that is not a parabola is because they are not 'solid'.
they are stage balls that are partially sand filled.
the loose sand inside affects the arc of the ball on the return but dx's shouldn't react like this as their filling is packed and as such has no room to move around inside the ball.
rob - you're getting new tricks at a crazy rate - despite the freezing cold, rain and impending winter.
i reckon you're learning new stuff fast enough for requests now...
so, please can you learn (4x,4x) on doubles with alternating left and right hand backcrosses for one of the throws?
its lovely - northern can kinda do it with balls but i'd like to see it done with clubs by someone i know
and just to keep this partially on-topic (although look at the first page if you wanna see how on-topic it ever was here), i'm working on:
5b inverse cascade [nowhere near]
64 [closeish]
4b fountain with every throw as a reverse shoulder throw [nowhere near]
4b mills [nowhere near]
reverse luke's shuffle [one side sorted, other side hopeless]
3up half pirouette to contortion [did it once, now for some reason i think its a good idea to try and get it solid
]cole. x
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Posted:
I learned cascade transitioning into shower and back out again!
YAY!
I may have also learned some four ball tricks too. But nothing actually difficult.
I learned cascade transitioning into shower and back out again!
YAY!
I may have also learned some four ball tricks too. But nothing actually difficult.
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"the still legendary" - Kaskade
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Posted:
My clubs are hand-me-downs but i love them none the less. They are blue, yellow and red. And they all have a shiny holographic tape strip
( sunbeam - haven't seen you for so long!)
My clubs are hand-me-downs but i love them none the less. They are blue, yellow and red. And they all have a shiny holographic tape strip
(
sunbeam - haven't seen you for so long!) Never pick up a duck in a dungeon...
Clubbles Jugs
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Posted:
shame they're not pink then...
Cole - u can do the twice around pirouette out of 722223333
Or even the forward roll...
shame they're not pink then...
Cole - u can do the twice around pirouette out of 722223333
Or even the forward roll...
ah wah wah wah a wah wah
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Cole, My idea for this is that all of this is in the MMSTD, and is working on the principle that if rubensteins revenge is the next step from burkes barrage then there must be another step from rubenstein, and presumable another step from there.
My original siteswap was 6223233, not 6223223 (which doesn't work, haha)
Assumung all this is in the MMSTD after having executed 22, surely you can't just add another 2? this would mean having to wrap you arms around each other, which granted is possible but is a little extravagent (especially given that only about a third of jugglers even know erics is possible let alone can do it), surely the best way to add another carry would be to throw a ball over(/under given that i don't know yet) your arm, then chop it?
I've been thinkin about this for a few weeks now and i reckon the pattern would have to go
3
423
52233
6223233
722323233
Or something like that.
I think i'm gonna have to go up to brixton with a white board and some markers before i get anywhere with this one.
I would try and animate the whole thing on some form of WIKI device but i have a deep distrust of those things,ever since i had bad experiences with Romeo's revenge and mikes mess, the latter of which i still cannot do :-(
:-) pat
EDITED_BY: Megafish (1101142060)
Cole, My idea for this is that all of this is in the MMSTD, and is working on the principle that if rubensteins revenge is the next step from burkes barrage then there must be another step from rubenstein, and presumable another step from there.
My original siteswap was 6223233, not 6223223 (which doesn't work, haha)
Assumung all this is in the MMSTD after having executed 22, surely you can't just add another 2? this would mean having to wrap you arms around each other, which granted is possible but is a little extravagent (especially given that only about a third of jugglers even know erics is possible let alone can do it), surely the best way to add another carry would be to throw a ball over(/under given that i don't know yet) your arm, then chop it?
I've been thinkin about this for a few weeks now and i reckon the pattern would have to go
3
423
52233
6223233
722323233
Or something like that.
I think i'm gonna have to go up to brixton with a white board and some markers before i get anywhere with this one.
I would try and animate the whole thing on some form of WIKI device but i have a deep distrust of those things,ever since i had bad experiences with Romeo's revenge and mikes mess, the latter of which i still cannot do :-(
:-) pat
EDITED_BY: Megafish (1101142060)
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Posted:
funnily enough mr cole, i got that trick twice last time i was out. [censored] hard tho.
next time i see ya?
jon there's a difference between being in the right place and being off topic. but i'm just being NYC cause we all know he would never show his face in here.
and for my on-topic bit:
about 40 different hat tricks.
mmmm
funnily enough mr cole, i got that trick twice last time i was out. [censored] hard tho.
next time i see ya?
jon there's a difference between being in the right place and being off topic. but i'm just being NYC cause we all know he would never show his face in here.
and for my on-topic bit:
about 40 different hat tricks.
mmmm
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Posted:
oh yeah, good point - on topic,
some form of silly hop thing that looks much more complicated than it actually is, i don't know what its called but it messes people up.
and i think it 444033 mills, got that last night and felt propper chuffed
EDITED_BY: Megafish (1101142461)
oh yeah, good point - on topic,
some form of silly hop thing that looks much more complicated than it actually is, i don't know what its called but it messes people up.
and i think it 444033 mills, got that last night and felt propper chuffed
EDITED_BY: Megafish (1101142461)
Juggling isn't useless, It just isn't useful.
Neural Coding is Idiosyncratic:-)
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Posted:
I think im just jealous of you all as I havent learnt anything lately.
Progress has been slow down here.
I think im just jealous of you all as I havent learnt anything lately.
Progress has been slow down here.
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Posted:
531 john, go and get working on it now!!!
531 john, go and get working on it now!!!
Juggling isn't useless, It just isn't useful.
Neural Coding is Idiosyncratic:-)
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Clubbles Jugs
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Posted:
you know that trick (4,4) (4x0) and (4,4) (4x0)
Good.
I started playing with it on sunday night and got one where the two (4's) go up as per and then the other ball does 3 (2x's) before going up as a four on the other side. I think the numbers are (4,4) (1,1,1,4) or something.
I also started playing with the shuffle, but i'm sure i'm doing it wrong.
Jon - do some passing with sunbeam!!
you know that trick (4,4) (4x0) and (4,4) (4x0)
Good.
I started playing with it on sunday night and got one where the two (4's) go up as per and then the other ball does 3 (2x's) before going up as a four on the other side. I think the numbers are (4,4) (1,1,1,4) or something.
I also started playing with the shuffle, but i'm sure i'm doing it wrong.
Jon - do some passing with sunbeam!!
ah wah wah wah a wah wah
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Posted:
I have been...
But they usually tend .....*im not getting into this on HOP*
I have been...
But they usually tend .....*im not getting into this on HOP*
Clubbles Jugs
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Posted:
ah wah wah wah a wah wah
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Posted:
will does this mean you are doing a sync version of 64113 (one up either side, loads of swaps..then change sides)?
off to try.
jon.
practise your four and five ball basic patterns. thats what i do when nothing else is forthcoming. its really really really useful.
five hat flash last night wih fifth hat caught on head...
off to juggle
R
will does this mean you are doing a sync version of 64113 (one up either side, loads of swaps..then change sides)?
off to try.
jon.
practise your four and five ball basic patterns. thats what i do when nothing else is forthcoming. its really really really useful.
five hat flash last night wih fifth hat caught on head...
off to juggle
R
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