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-Mike
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HOP Mad Doctor
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Written by: Azrelle_
It took me a while to understand the fire eating one too... apparently all it takes is for there to be a small defect in your skull for the heat inside the mouth to be transferred to the chiasm. The defect occurs in 1 in somethingorother people and the few of them who learned to fire-eat went blind.
I'd need better documentation of this before I bought it. There's still a nasal cavity between the mouth and the chiasm.
-Mike
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While on the subject of ARDS , Ive put a thread in the technical discussion section asking about respiratory problems associated with spinning off staves. I suspect that may not be the right location , but it is well marked so you can find it easily, and its probably hard to relocate it to a new area.
I can add yet another reason not to fire breath, The breather only sees a red flash through closed eyes, and the audiance probably thinks the 2 fireballs off a freshly wet staff is twice as good anyway. Fire breathing itself is not exciting at all , the excitement instead comes from the danger of spraying burning fuel over yourself if you chicken out half way through, or face the cirtainty of lipid pneumonia if you cough, inhale, or otherwise distract yourself.
When I tried it I had wanted to do it for 8 years and practiced for months with water and then almost got over such a stupid idea. However 4 years without sex re motivated me to try this reckless act, and I can assure you I now devote my desperate men do crazy things energy into seeking a suitable wife instead.
Good living frugal environmentally aware Christian women of sober and drug free habits are not turned on by fire breathing either. Do something safer if you want an adrenaline fix . I recommend walking over hot coals as a far safer activity (and leaving any information you have on this activity on my firewalking thread under Technical Discussions).
I have done more than my fair share of stupid things in my life, ( handling poisonous snakes, climbing cliffs without ropes, making fireballs with explosives and 20L of petrol, climbing power pylons, walking over hot coals and the like) of wich fire breathing was by far the most stupid, the least impresive to women, and foul to the taste for good measure. DONT DO IT , DONT DO IT and once more DONT DO IT. Even if you are male, young and stupid, the head near your testicles can be still be overuled by the head on your shoulders .Remember to take advantage of this capacity if you ever feel inclined to try fire breathing. IT IS NOT WORTH THE RISK!!!!!
HOP Mad Doctor
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This is a bump. Please see the first post.
-Mike
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Your a leg end Doc. Nice work
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HOP Mad Doctor
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"leg end?"
-Mike
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A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
Carpal \'Tunnel
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You are a legend....
Is it the Truth?
Is it Fair to all concerned?
Will it build Goodwill and Better Friendships?
Will it be Beneficial to all concerned?
Im in a lonely battle with the world with a fish to match the chip on my shoulder. Gnu in Binnu in a cnu
the floor is a sea of tigers...
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All this talk about fire eating and blindness is making me worried
i actually quite enjoy it (fire eating, not worrying that is)
Are there any links to documentation about it?
HOP Mad Doctor
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No, oracle, this is *NOT* about fire eating.
It's about fire BREATHING.
-Mike
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A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
Carpal \'Tunnel
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Written by: Doc Lightning
I'd need better documentation of this before I bought it. There's still a nasal cavity between the mouth and the chiasm.
Heres one but thats methanol poisoning I think.
What are they fire eating with? Australian metho no longer routinely has methanol due to too many poisonings through deliberate ingestion.
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Will it build Goodwill and Better Friendships?
Will it be Beneficial to all concerned?
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the kicker of elves
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A friend of mine suffers from regular chest infections and I'm trying to talk her out of trying firebreathing, Doc, any extra info you can give?
Is a weak chest likely to make fire breathing even more dangerous?
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Written by: Doc Lightning
No, oracle, this is *NOT* about fire eating.
It's about fire BREATHING.
i know the tread was about fire breating, but i was refering to this:
Written by: Azrelle_
...fire-eating caused partial blindness in some cases through overheating of the optic chiasm (bitemporal hemianopia)
the henna lady
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Nice update Doc. Thanks so much, again, for the time and effort you put into this.
Pele
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HOP Mad Doctor
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Written by: Gnor
Heres one but thats methanol poisoning I think.
Yeah, that's not caused by heating the optic chiasm. That was methanol intoxication, which causes blindness.
-Mike
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HOP Mad Doctor
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Written by: The Misguided OracleWritten by: Doc Lightning
No, oracle, this is *NOT* about fire eating.
It's about fire BREATHING.
i know the tread was about fire breating, but i was refering to this:Written by: Azrelle_
...fire-eating caused partial blindness in some cases through overheating of the optic chiasm (bitemporal hemianopia)
Ah, I see. Yes, don't ever eat or breathe with any methanol-containing fuel. In fact, I advise people to just avoid methanol, period. In my opinion, it should be banned for public sale. It's hardly an indispensible chemical for home use and it causes a lot of illness.
-Mike
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HOP Mad Doctor
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Written by: Pele
Nice update Doc. Thanks so much, again, for the time and effort you put into this.
Thanks, Pele. Any chance it could get put in articles so it doesn't disappear 300 pages down the boards again?
-Mike
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the henna lady
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That and make it sticky perhaps so that people can still contribute to it as a thread?
I think it would have more impact there.
Pele
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HOP Mad Doctor
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Hey, you're the mod.
I'm just some dorky Jewish pediatrician.
-Mike
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Thanks Doc, thanks Gnor,
I feel somewhat better informed now
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So I've never much been impressed with fire breathing, and I've always known the risks.
I've never wanted to learn, and this thread only reinforces that fact.
But I smoke... where's the logic in that?
The existance of flamethrowers says that someone, somewhere, at sometime said "I need to set that thing on fire, but it's too far away."
HOP Mad Doctor
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Ah, it was made into an article.
Thank you. Feel free, anyone, to use it for educational uses. All images are copyright their respective authors and are fair use for education. The article is copyright me 2007.
So nyer. :-p
-Mike
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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We have put it on our local boards and may print it for handing out. Will credit you.
Is it the Truth?
Is it Fair to all concerned?
Will it build Goodwill and Better Friendships?
Will it be Beneficial to all concerned?
Im in a lonely battle with the world with a fish to match the chip on my shoulder. Gnu in Binnu in a cnu
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Yes, thanks for this. It is so useful to have good information to give to those who will listen. Though of course some will not.
Just a few weeks ago, I was in charge of safety for a fire space at a festival. I told a bloke that we did not allow firebreathing there, and why. He made noises that he understood and 'respected' that. That night he had a spin with staff, which he was not particularly good at. So, (maybe to maintain his ego that he was something special?) the next night he did firebreathing just outside the space. Close to people, spraying fuel everywhere; telling people this was 'real' fire skill, not that 'hippy twirling stuff'. Sigh.
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At least we keep trying.
Gnor - no worshiping of the Doc?? What's wrong with ya?
Umm, anyhooo - yes, Mike's lovely words are now fully integrated with pictures in the Library section. It's a work of art it is and many thanks to Doc for updating it for us.
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The Good Doc is a leg end......
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Is it Fair to all concerned?
Will it build Goodwill and Better Friendships?
Will it be Beneficial to all concerned?
Im in a lonely battle with the world with a fish to match the chip on my shoulder. Gnu in Binnu in a cnu
HOP Mad Doctor
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The end of a leg is a foot.
You're calling me a foot?!?!?!?!
-Mike
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You're calling me a foot?!?!?!?!
You only wish, Doc...
Who wants to see a monkey on fire?
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Isn't the OTHER end of a leg a bowel?
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Or a ...
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hugs Pele
just wanted to send a beep of orange sunshine to your day
just read your post -happened while i'd got ill with Reiter's / Fibromyalgia -glad to say i cant walk for about 5mins aday now :*)
good to hear you're still going grrrl :*)>~
massive hug
and to NYC too
lotsa love
0range ...xxx...
swoopedinandbackoutagain,
Rich 0range ...Sheffield U.K.
the henna lady
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ORANGE!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hello love!
Fibro def sucks rocks and I wish you the best with it. I am so glad yer on your feet!
Miss you so!!!!!!!!!
Pele
Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir
"Oooh look! A pub!" -exclaimed after recovering from a stupid fall
"And for the decadence of art, nothing beats a roaring fire." -TMK
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