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ok so lately there has just been all this angst on the board (and im *this* close to just quittin the thing) so i propose some suggestions:1. if its a controversial topic, READ all the posts before you post your passionate response. people are jumping to premature conclusions like fleas in a frying pan lately.2. we non-newbies help malcom out with writing the faq and all write an article on frequently asked things to help out the newbies.3. my personal pet peeve: please for gods sake write in english! 2 kewl 4 U is just so 1996.i just ignore these posts so if you had something good to say you're not getting it across. of course we're all a bunch of free spirits and all that so no one can really tell you what to do and I'm gonna be the one to be flamed for bringing the angst out in the open but if we want to keep it informative and useful and happy and good maybe it has to.Pere
ok so lately there has just been all this angst on the board (and im *this* close to just quittin the thing) so i propose some suggestions:1. if its a controversial topic, READ all the posts before you post your passionate response. people are jumping to premature conclusions like fleas in a frying pan lately.2. we non-newbies help malcom out with writing the faq and all write an article on frequently asked things to help out the newbies.3. my personal pet peeve: please for gods sake write in english! 2 kewl 4 U is just so 1996.i just ignore these posts so if you had something good to say you're not getting it across. of course we're all a bunch of free spirits and all that so no one can really tell you what to do and I'm gonna be the one to be flamed for bringing the angst out in the open but if we want to keep it informative and useful and happy and good maybe it has to.Pere
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Good form Pere..I for one am going to keep my posts as topic related as i can to cut back on the flameups.Super'LYLAB...hee hee i couldnt resist------------------"Only the warrior that hears the call will know when to leave, Where to go" -unknown"We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of the dreams"- Willy Wonka
Good form Pere..I for one am going to keep my posts as topic related as i can to cut back on the flameups.Super'LYLAB...hee hee i couldnt resist------------------"Only the warrior that hears the call will know when to leave, Where to go" -unknown"We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of the dreams"- Willy Wonka
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I completely agree with you Pere...and with Flash Fire in the use of the search engines....
BTW...if it comes down to writing faq type things and if ya'll want I will take the faq on breathing since I tend to do that anytime it comes up on here anyway.------------------Pele Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir...
I completely agree with you Pere...and with Flash Fire in the use of the search engines....
BTW...if it comes down to writing faq type things and if ya'll want I will take the faq on breathing since I tend to do that anytime it comes up on here anyway.------------------Pele Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir... Pele
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I don't like 'smilies' ... but I'm hardly going to demand people stop using them. While I also don't really like people writing with 2's, 4's and U's, but that's also something that you have to put up with. Obviously there's enough people who do cherish the opportunity to save themselves a keystoke or two but adding numbers 2 their posts.Welcome to the internet.Ðraevon.
I don't like 'smilies' ... but I'm hardly going to demand people stop using them. While I also don't really like people writing with 2's, 4's and U's, but that's also something that you have to put up with. Obviously there's enough people who do cherish the opportunity to save themselves a keystoke or two but adding numbers 2 their posts.Welcome to the internet.Ðraevon.
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Hmmm... obviously this is pretty closely related to the time loop thread......again... is this a place to learn new things library fashion, or to establish community?As I said in the other thread... I look at it, largely, as a place to establish community... so... we could write a FAQ on topics that come up continuously like "How long did it take you..." or "I dislike drug use because..." but it would defeat the purpose of voices being heard which, again, I think is very important to those individuals who feel cut off from the community of the art and are perhaps not yet at a point where more detailed, innovative questions occur to them...
Hmmm... obviously this is pretty closely related to the time loop thread......again... is this a place to learn new things library fashion, or to establish community?As I said in the other thread... I look at it, largely, as a place to establish community... so... we could write a FAQ on topics that come up continuously like "How long did it take you..." or "I dislike drug use because..." but it would defeat the purpose of voices being heard which, again, I think is very important to those individuals who feel cut off from the community of the art and are perhaps not yet at a point where more detailed, innovative questions occur to them...
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OK, the snake is out of the box now...I have to agree and i really think it's too bad that some "older" people from this board (who were here way before i even found out about this site) stopped posting, especially because they seem to be very involved in the art of poi and had a lot to share.I found this site in October and the atmosphere on the board has definitely changed a lot since. I do get annoyed at the posts written in a quasi-english, especially because english is not my first language and it takes me some effort to write it properly. A larger FAQ and more frequent use of the search question would be good too.I know this is gonna sound elitist but I think seperating the "general discussion" in a "newbie" and "experienced" section would be a good idea. The posting on the "experienced" section could be limited to Senior Members while making it available for reading to everyone. It would also be a good thing to raise the number of posts that make you a Senior Member considering the increase in volume on the board, maybe even include something about the registration date for the Senior Member qualification. I know some people like Diana and Draevon are not registered, but i'm sure we could find a way.Nomad[This message has been edited by Nomad (edited 30 May 2001).]
OK, the snake is out of the box now...I have to agree and i really think it's too bad that some "older" people from this board (who were here way before i even found out about this site) stopped posting, especially because they seem to be very involved in the art of poi and had a lot to share.I found this site in October and the atmosphere on the board has definitely changed a lot since. I do get annoyed at the posts written in a quasi-english, especially because english is not my first language and it takes me some effort to write it properly. A larger FAQ and more frequent use of the search question would be good too.I know this is gonna sound elitist but I think seperating the "general discussion" in a "newbie" and "experienced" section would be a good idea. The posting on the "experienced" section could be limited to Senior Members while making it available for reading to everyone. It would also be a good thing to raise the number of posts that make you a Senior Member considering the increase in volume on the board, maybe even include something about the registration date for the Senior Member qualification. I know some people like Diana and Draevon are not registered, but i'm sure we could find a way.Nomad[This message has been edited by Nomad (edited 30 May 2001).]
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Thanx for the supports Twist! i agree with yor first line a lot and the rest too!!!
------------------My World is a world of one, and in being one they Rave! My World is a Godly World and I am its master!
Thanx for the supports Twist! i agree with yor first line a lot and the rest too!!!
------------------My World is a world of one, and in being one they Rave! My World is a Godly World and I am its master! My World is a world of one, and in being one they Rave! My World is a Godly World and I am its master!
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hmmm.... it sounds to me as though most of the people here don't visit many other chat rooms? You can't just tell people to stop using this and that left right and centre in other chat rooms - as long as the message comes across what's the problem? I agree that the discussion group should be moved into seperate areas. (I'm no fan of elitism either - it just makes sense.) I find it mildly annoying (at the worst of times) to read a post that's already been bled to death several hundred times. And I think the only way to solve the problem for all the 'frustrated' out there is to have an EXPERIENCED and NEWBIE section. Although I hope the 'elder' people would be nice to post certain replies in the newbie section once in a while...a bigger SEARCH button and FAQ button maybe - or flashing lights and blaring music around the buttons maybe would get them more attention.
hmmm.... it sounds to me as though most of the people here don't visit many other chat rooms? You can't just tell people to stop using this and that left right and centre in other chat rooms - as long as the message comes across what's the problem? I agree that the discussion group should be moved into seperate areas. (I'm no fan of elitism either - it just makes sense.) I find it mildly annoying (at the worst of times) to read a post that's already been bled to death several hundred times. And I think the only way to solve the problem for all the 'frustrated' out there is to have an EXPERIENCED and NEWBIE section. Although I hope the 'elder' people would be nice to post certain replies in the newbie section once in a while...a bigger SEARCH button and FAQ button maybe - or flashing lights and blaring music around the buttons maybe would get them more attention.
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OOOOOH this is comming to pet peeves now...and I have one!!!I like the suggestion of experienced and newbies Nomad. Good form!What really gets me is the people who refer to glowsticks as "fire". I really appreciate the beauty and skill of all spinners, but glowsticks are not fire, you will not die from a glowstick setting your clothes ablaze and I think it is an amazing lack of respect for those here who do fire. Not to mention very confusing at times.So that is my pet peeve. Yes to freedom of speech, but please make your speech clear when you are using it freely.------------------Pele Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir...
OOOOOH this is comming to pet peeves now...and I have one!!!I like the suggestion of experienced and newbies Nomad. Good form!What really gets me is the people who refer to glowsticks as "fire". I really appreciate the beauty and skill of all spinners, but glowsticks are not fire, you will not die from a glowstick setting your clothes ablaze and I think it is an amazing lack of respect for those here who do fire. Not to mention very confusing at times.So that is my pet peeve. Yes to freedom of speech, but please make your speech clear when you are using it freely.------------------Pele Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir...
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When I first joined this board, it thought it was a majikal place...everyone was so passionate about what they were doing and what they thought. I felt immediately welcome and part of the community, giving and taking as required. Advice was offered freely and many intellectual discussions on a huge variety of topics were indulged in.My friends and I would talk about HOP when we met and would continue virtual discussions in reality. This BB was a source of great pleasure, entertainment and stimulation.The recent influx of new devotees has caused the BB to lose some of this majik - not because of the newbies themselves, but because very few topics have the opportunity to go anywhere - they get lost at the bottom of the pages, buried in questions about sparkly poi and lecturous inexperienced posts about the abhorrent use of drugs etc.I like the idea of seperate areas. That way, all the interesting and more personal stuff might just come back. People like myself, Pele, Diana, Finn, Frenzie, Josh and Jesse etc may well feel compelled to positively contribute again.I don't think it fair to police the way people choose to express their wurdz, however I personally think it's kinda juvenile and, as with most fads, will die out eventually. The English language is a beautiful thing. Perhaps some guidelines need to be compiled as well as more active moderation and administration - some threads just need to be closed/deleted/moved to different area. I hereby volunteer my services Malcolm.Malcolm set us up a chat room. I think it's a great idea and should be used more often. But, the few times I've been there, I've been surrounded by people from the same area discussing what they're gonna do at the park that night. It's not a personal chat page - don't use it as one please.Still frustrated, but glad I'm not the only one.------------------"she dances in a ring of fire and throws off the challenge with a shrug"
When I first joined this board, it thought it was a majikal place...everyone was so passionate about what they were doing and what they thought. I felt immediately welcome and part of the community, giving and taking as required. Advice was offered freely and many intellectual discussions on a huge variety of topics were indulged in.My friends and I would talk about HOP when we met and would continue virtual discussions in reality. This BB was a source of great pleasure, entertainment and stimulation.The recent influx of new devotees has caused the BB to lose some of this majik - not because of the newbies themselves, but because very few topics have the opportunity to go anywhere - they get lost at the bottom of the pages, buried in questions about sparkly poi and lecturous inexperienced posts about the abhorrent use of drugs etc.I like the idea of seperate areas. That way, all the interesting and more personal stuff might just come back. People like myself, Pele, Diana, Finn, Frenzie, Josh and Jesse etc may well feel compelled to positively contribute again.I don't think it fair to police the way people choose to express their wurdz, however I personally think it's kinda juvenile and, as with most fads, will die out eventually. The English language is a beautiful thing. Perhaps some guidelines need to be compiled as well as more active moderation and administration - some threads just need to be closed/deleted/moved to different area. I hereby volunteer my services Malcolm.Malcolm set us up a chat room. I think it's a great idea and should be used more often. But, the few times I've been there, I've been surrounded by people from the same area discussing what they're gonna do at the park that night. It's not a personal chat page - don't use it as one please.Still frustrated, but glad I'm not the only one.------------------"she dances in a ring of fire and throws off the challenge with a shrug"
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I like the way you said that about why it is losing the magic FF. It was well put and precisely how I feel. Thanks.------------------Pele Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir...
I like the way you said that about why it is losing the magic FF. It was well put and precisely how I feel. Thanks.------------------Pele Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir...
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This is for the Fabulous Five... you know who you are.....
P.L.U.R. sucks my C.O.C.K.Seems like people say it but don't practice it, especially since it's the new ravers to the board that tend to take everything personally and then flare up at everyone when someone disagrees. Practice what you preach people.
This is for the Fabulous Five... you know who you are.....
P.L.U.R. sucks my C.O.C.K.Seems like people say it but don't practice it, especially since it's the new ravers to the board that tend to take everything personally and then flare up at everyone when someone disagrees. Practice what you preach people. SILVER Member
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*Sheesh* Seems as though we can't talk about anything anymore without getting flamed. Not to take the other side of the coin or anything on a topic(for fear of being flamed) But I don't think that separating the "experienced" people from the "newbies" is such a great idea. Maybe this is because I *AM* newer to this board. I enjoy the chit chat with all of you. I feel that if they were split apart, it would be too easy for all the experienced people to stay in their area, while the newbie area is left blank, or to just the newbies. This board was absolutely great when I found it. I still think it is. I think we all need to take a step back and realize, we are all together, here at this site, for a common cause. We all enjoy and love doing some form of twirling or swirling, or juggling, or whatever. We enjoy sharing our art. People will talk the way they talk, if someone has trouble understanding my lingo, or the way I talk, I would expect them to ask me to rephrase it or whatever. As for the chat room that Malcolm set up. This is for everyone to use. To meet each other, to chit chat. Whatever. I saw no guidelines posted anywhere as to it's use, nor do I see any guidelines asked of anyone anywhere. I was "most likely" one of those people from "same area discussing what they're gonna do at the park that night." We enjoy poi, I'm sure just as much as the next. It is a new love for us. I apologize if as a result of us meeting in the HOP chat to talk to each other, we have offended anyone, or made anyone uncomfortable. That is not my intention. A chat room is what it is..a place to chat with people and that is how it is used. Shouldn't matter if they are across town, or across the world. I enjoy talking to the wide-variety of people that come into the chatroom from all over.As for this chat getting a little crazy sometimes. I think some guidelines wouldn't be a such a bad idea, maybe even more moderation. However if you start moderating what people post, that is taking away from everyone's freedom of speech. However I think the post from 'I HAVE TO' is a good reason why we should have some sort of moderation. I say *PLUR* and I practice it. I agree, don't be a hippocrite, however don't flame either. .....Why can't we all just get along? It's weird..every person I have met to this day that spins/twirls poi, has been an awesome person, very outgoing, and friendly. And it seems that most people are here too. It's a shame to see so many people getting upset over such little things. We only come here to discuss, learn, and share things. Most of us are adults, and I would like to think that we all can act like adults. peace guys.
(guess I have to have a disclaimer..hehe)If any of my wording come across over this post as offensive, please don't take it as such. I am not meaning to offend anyone. Just please guys, say it and practice it, at LEAST the P and R. (Peace and Respect)------------------ [PLUR]-=Crazy Raver Dude=-
*Sheesh* Seems as though we can't talk about anything anymore without getting flamed. Not to take the other side of the coin or anything on a topic(for fear of being flamed) But I don't think that separating the "experienced" people from the "newbies" is such a great idea. Maybe this is because I *AM* newer to this board. I enjoy the chit chat with all of you. I feel that if they were split apart, it would be too easy for all the experienced people to stay in their area, while the newbie area is left blank, or to just the newbies. This board was absolutely great when I found it. I still think it is. I think we all need to take a step back and realize, we are all together, here at this site, for a common cause. We all enjoy and love doing some form of twirling or swirling, or juggling, or whatever. We enjoy sharing our art. People will talk the way they talk, if someone has trouble understanding my lingo, or the way I talk, I would expect them to ask me to rephrase it or whatever. As for the chat room that Malcolm set up. This is for everyone to use. To meet each other, to chit chat. Whatever. I saw no guidelines posted anywhere as to it's use, nor do I see any guidelines asked of anyone anywhere. I was "most likely" one of those people from "same area discussing what they're gonna do at the park that night." We enjoy poi, I'm sure just as much as the next. It is a new love for us. I apologize if as a result of us meeting in the HOP chat to talk to each other, we have offended anyone, or made anyone uncomfortable. That is not my intention. A chat room is what it is..a place to chat with people and that is how it is used. Shouldn't matter if they are across town, or across the world. I enjoy talking to the wide-variety of people that come into the chatroom from all over.As for this chat getting a little crazy sometimes. I think some guidelines wouldn't be a such a bad idea, maybe even more moderation. However if you start moderating what people post, that is taking away from everyone's freedom of speech. However I think the post from 'I HAVE TO' is a good reason why we should have some sort of moderation. I say *PLUR* and I practice it. I agree, don't be a hippocrite, however don't flame either. .....Why can't we all just get along? It's weird..every person I have met to this day that spins/twirls poi, has been an awesome person, very outgoing, and friendly. And it seems that most people are here too. It's a shame to see so many people getting upset over such little things. We only come here to discuss, learn, and share things. Most of us are adults, and I would like to think that we all can act like adults. peace guys.
(guess I have to have a disclaimer..hehe)If any of my wording come across over this post as offensive, please don't take it as such. I am not meaning to offend anyone. Just please guys, say it and practice it, at LEAST the P and R. (Peace and Respect)------------------ [PLUR]-=Crazy Raver Dude=- -=ÇrazyRaverÐude=-
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soooo..... who are the fabulous five?give us a clue! (I for one, dont have one)and I must remark on how eloquently you subjegate yourself from any intelligent discussionJosh[This message has been edited by [Josh] (edited 30 May 2001).]
soooo..... who are the fabulous five?give us a clue! (I for one, dont have one)and I must remark on how eloquently you subjegate yourself from any intelligent discussion
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so now we've established what PLUR means, please "I HAVE TO" enlighten us as to the meaning of: C.O.C.K ???Re: moderation. It's necessary. This isn't a soap box forum. This site has a purpose and I think it should be moderated as such. for example, when someone posts something about a 5 beat weave in general discussion, I think it should be moved to the Moves thread etc. If someone starts a post that has been done several times in the recent past, the moderator should close down the thread and send an email to the poster with links to the previous threads.just mho.and who's flaming around here? not I said the fly. People's (mis)interpetation of things and subsequent extreme levels of defensiveness are not aiding in the positive vibe. So, perhaps before individuals get all upset and begin throwing around accusations of flaming, they should relax a little and not take things so personally, unless so directed.
so now we've established what PLUR means, please "I HAVE TO" enlighten us as to the meaning of: C.O.C.K ???Re: moderation. It's necessary. This isn't a soap box forum. This site has a purpose and I think it should be moderated as such. for example, when someone posts something about a 5 beat weave in general discussion, I think it should be moved to the Moves thread etc. If someone starts a post that has been done several times in the recent past, the moderator should close down the thread and send an email to the poster with links to the previous threads.just mho.and who's flaming around here? not I said the fly. People's (mis)interpetation of things and subsequent extreme levels of defensiveness are not aiding in the positive vibe. So, perhaps before individuals get all upset and begin throwing around accusations of flaming, they should relax a little and not take things so personally, unless so directed.
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CrazyRaverDude, i fully agree with ya! and yes maby i am a hipocrite at times and funny i am a newbie. if ya haven't read the other "in a time loop" post, then i want to just say again i'm sorry for my actions everyone. if you care, i wrote more in the other post. if not well i guess you just know then, but from this point on, i'd like it if everyone could all be friends. yes, everyone dose have the right to their own opinion, and i respect that. I AM (sorry for the caps!) the one who needs to flame down! i honestly didn't want no harm, but like i've said before it might be too late for that now! man i really f***'d up bad! i think now when i say *plur* i can really relate to why the saying was created. from now on when i say it i am gunna really mean it...[This message has been edited by Plazma (edited 30 May 2001).]
CrazyRaverDude, i fully agree with ya! and yes maby i am a hipocrite at times and funny i am a newbie. if ya haven't read the other "in a time loop" post, then i want to just say again i'm sorry for my actions everyone. if you care, i wrote more in the other post. if not well i guess you just know then, but from this point on, i'd like it if everyone could all be friends. yes, everyone dose have the right to their own opinion, and i respect that.
I AM (sorry for the caps!) the one who needs to flame down! i honestly didn't want no harm, but like i've said before it might be too late for that now! man i really f***'d up bad! i think now when i say *plur* i can really relate to why the saying was created. from now on when i say it i am gunna really mean it...[This message has been edited by Plazma (edited 30 May 2001).] My World is a world of one, and in being one they Rave! My World is a Godly World and I am its master!
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I agree with Flash Fire on moderation, many other bulletins boards operate i that manner very successfully, and often post maybe once a week a post to all newcomers on instructions on how to search and what each section is about.If i see another thread about how to do the 5 beat weave, it will be my last!
I agree with Flash Fire on moderation, many other bulletins boards operate i that manner very successfully, and often post maybe once a week a post to all newcomers on instructions on how to search and what each section is about.If i see another thread about how to do the 5 beat weave, it will be my last!
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This raises an very interesting point, the moderators. Malcolm is the administrator. He made me a moderator over on the relay board.There are no issues there, in fact until we can get the stuff moving again, there is very little happening there. I haven't jurisdiction here really, as I see it, but from the moderator perspective I see no issues here. Everytime people flare up over something controversial it seems to work itself out. Everytime someone gets offended it gets discussed and it worked out. A few times someone has suggested that a thread be closed because they didn't like what was said but everyone is entitled to their voice, so long as there is no direct attack or bigoted attack, of which there haven't been any. This discussion displays that. What I see is people taking things out of context or taking things personally, the issues being discussed and worked through. I think that is very open minded and respectful of people. Of course it is getting to that point where there are issues. Moderation and self-regulation are a matter of opinion, and in my opinion I see no reason for interference and I hope this board stays that way since that is what makes it such a disfunctional family.------------------Pele Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir...
This raises an very interesting point, the moderators. Malcolm is the administrator. He made me a moderator over on the relay board.There are no issues there, in fact until we can get the stuff moving again, there is very little happening there. I haven't jurisdiction here really, as I see it, but from the moderator perspective I see no issues here. Everytime people flare up over something controversial it seems to work itself out. Everytime someone gets offended it gets discussed and it worked out. A few times someone has suggested that a thread be closed because they didn't like what was said but everyone is entitled to their voice, so long as there is no direct attack or bigoted attack, of which there haven't been any. This discussion displays that. What I see is people taking things out of context or taking things personally, the issues being discussed and worked through. I think that is very open minded and respectful of people. Of course it is getting to that point where there are issues. Moderation and self-regulation are a matter of opinion, and in my opinion I see no reason for interference and I hope this board stays that way since that is what makes it such a disfunctional family.------------------Pele Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir...
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I agree with you Pele, with heated discussions needing to sort themselves out. But I also agree with CRD that non-productive jibes such as that of "I HAD TO" should be deleted. I was thinking more from a practical aesthetic point of view, as my examples in my above post. Moves go into the "moves" section and stuff that we've all seen a hundred times (and what has prompted a few recent threads!) be closed i.e how do I make sparkly poi, fuels to use for fire breathing etc.flash
I agree with you Pele, with heated discussions needing to sort themselves out. But I also agree with CRD that non-productive jibes such as that of "I HAD TO" should be deleted. I was thinking more from a practical aesthetic point of view, as my examples in my above post. Moves go into the "moves" section and stuff that we've all seen a hundred times (and what has prompted a few recent threads!) be closed i.e how do I make sparkly poi, fuels to use for fire breathing etc.flash
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Okay, so you know I love you FF and I am with you on this one but I have to say, how do you know I HAVE TO wasn't joking? That is the issue with the internet, too much is left to personal interpretation. And the statement, though harsh, was backed up by a valid point and so therefore shouldn't be deleted. It spurned CRD to put up his post about PLUR and such, which causedPlazma to realize fully that maybe the things s/he said may not have been in the spirit s/he had been demonstrating by signing things with PLUR. See what I mean? It's the devil's advocay that jugglerloser and there was someone else who's name escapes me used to demonstrate. It might not seem relevant to you as a single post but what comes as a result of it through the thread is positive. At least that is what I see from where I stand and since it wasn't a personal attack, nor was it really pointedly offensive, since no one knows what c.o.c.k. stands for, then it isn't delete worthy, only good has come of it.------------------Pele Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir...
Okay, so you know I love you FF and I am with you on this one but I have to say, how do you know I HAVE TO wasn't joking? That is the issue with the internet, too much is left to personal interpretation. And the statement, though harsh, was backed up by a valid point and so therefore shouldn't be deleted. It spurned CRD to put up his post about PLUR and such, which causedPlazma to realize fully that maybe the things s/he said may not have been in the spirit s/he had been demonstrating by signing things with PLUR. See what I mean? It's the devil's advocay that jugglerloser and there was someone else who's name escapes me used to demonstrate. It might not seem relevant to you as a single post but what comes as a result of it through the thread is positive. At least that is what I see from where I stand and since it wasn't a personal attack, nor was it really pointedly offensive, since no one knows what c.o.c.k. stands for, then it isn't delete worthy, only good has come of it.------------------Pele Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir...
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I agree, its not quitting posts that may get heated, but perhaps moving new moves to new moves and new websites to the new websites area, just so that when you want to look at some new moves, you know where to go, i mean wouldnt that make it easier for a new person as well?They come on to the new moves section and find hardly anything, then come into general discussion and find all they are looking for, why are they to know any different but to post "how do you do the 5 beat weave" anywhere but the general discussion!
I agree, its not quitting posts that may get heated, but perhaps moving new moves to new moves and new websites to the new websites area, just so that when you want to look at some new moves, you know where to go, i mean wouldnt that make it easier for a new person as well?They come on to the new moves section and find hardly anything, then come into general discussion and find all they are looking for, why are they to know any different but to post "how do you do the 5 beat weave" anywhere but the general discussion!
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arialtetsuo?you still out there kiddo?Josh
arialtetsuo?you still out there kiddo?
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point taken...(I actually though I HAD TO was one of the Sydney crew/affiliates joking around, but apparently it isn't.)arieltetsuo?? is that who you're thinking?I dunno...something needs to be done though! maybe we're already doing it?
point taken...(I actually though I HAD TO was one of the Sydney crew/affiliates joking around, but apparently it isn't.)arieltetsuo?? is that who you're thinking?I dunno...something needs to be done though! maybe we're already doing it?
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jinx!now the above can't talk until I say his name!!
jinx!now the above can't talk until I say his name!!
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*glares at FF, stomps around a bit then resigns himself for a long wait...*
*glares at FF, stomps around a bit then resigns himself for a long wait...*
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Good points, all well taken. The only reason why I would even care about the PLUR/COCK message, was the fact that only a select group of people say and use "P.L.U.R." I am one of those people, if it WAS a joke, IMHO it was poor humor. And anyway..if it was a joke, why conceile(ugh..sp?) one's name? The only reason I can see to hide your name is if you want to 'flame' someone without getting flamed yourself. Either way, I feel it could have been worded differently as to not be targetted to a select group of people. Just my 2gp...However for moves being posted to "New Moves", maybe it should first be renamed to "Moves" instead of "New Moves" that might alleviate some of the confusion. A regular post for newcomers might not be such a bad idea.plur,CRD[This message has been edited by CrazyRaverDude (edited 30 May 2001).]
Good points, all well taken. The only reason why I would even care about the PLUR/COCK message, was the fact that only a select group of people say and use "P.L.U.R." I am one of those people, if it WAS a joke, IMHO it was poor humor. And anyway..if it was a joke, why conceile(ugh..sp?) one's name? The only reason I can see to hide your name is if you want to 'flame' someone without getting flamed yourself. Either way, I feel it could have been worded differently as to not be targetted to a select group of people. Just my 2gp...However for moves being posted to "New Moves", maybe it should first be renamed to "Moves" instead of "New Moves" that might alleviate some of the confusion. A regular post for newcomers might not be such a bad idea.
plur,CRD[This message has been edited by CrazyRaverDude (edited 30 May 2001).] -=ÇrazyRaverÐude=-
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*hands a hand scribbled letter to the thread upon which is written the following*------------Is anyone feeling like this board is taking itself just a little bit too seriously? I post in a passionate manner about things I care about, but I cetainly dont lose sleep over them. After all, the internet is the free-est of speeches, and as such lots of different opinions are put forward...so you get conflict.now - if anyone is actually upset by anything I have said, please say so now, and I promise not to hook into ya! I'd just like to know if this thread is an oblique jab at my style.signed,Josh-------------Josh
*hands a hand scribbled letter to the thread upon which is written the following*------------Is anyone feeling like this board is taking itself just a little bit too seriously? I post in a passionate manner about things I care about, but I cetainly dont lose sleep over them. After all, the internet is the free-est of speeches, and as such lots of different opinions are put forward...so you get conflict.now - if anyone is actually upset by anything I have said, please say so now, and I promise not to hook into ya!
I'd just like to know if this thread is an oblique jab at my style.signed,Josh-------------BRONZE Member
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[Josh]
[Josh]
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PHEW!now I can talk again!that last post was for real ppl, if I've pissed you off, come forward now otherwise I'll keep blundering in the same way I have been...Josh
PHEW!now I can talk again!that last post was for real ppl, if I've pissed you off, come forward now
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Don't worry Josh, I'm not losing any sleep over this. :P If anything, I lose sleep over trying to figure new moves out. hehe *never takes "flames" seriously*But if it's not necessary...then why?Happy Twirlin!CRD
Don't worry Josh, I'm not losing any sleep over this. :P If anything, I lose sleep over trying to figure new moves out. hehe *never takes "flames" seriously*But if it's not necessary...then why?Happy Twirlin!CRD
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I totally agree with the moving things about a bit...maybe I will talk to Malcolm about volunteering for that since I am now in double wrist braces from over exersion this past weekend. It's a good kind of pain.Oh yes Josh...you know you are sooooooooooooreckless with your words, it just drives me crazy! 
I do think things get too serious, because we are all empassioned by what we do. Nature of the beast. It's ganna be interesting to see what happens tomorrow when the US-ers get into work/school and read this one. I fully think that while we are into the joking arena...they should just let it all out too. It feels so good! ------------------Pele Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir...
I totally agree with the moving things about a bit...maybe I will talk to Malcolm about volunteering for that since I am now in double wrist braces from over exersion this past weekend.
It's a good kind of pain.Oh yes Josh...you know you are sooooooooooooreckless with your words, it just drives me crazy! I do think things get too serious, because we are all empassioned by what we do. Nature of the beast. It's ganna be interesting to see what happens tomorrow when the US-ers get into work/school and read this one. I fully think that while we are into the joking arena...they should just let it all out too. It feels so good! ------------------Pele Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir... Pele
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