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RoGOLD Member
member
57 posts
Location: Kamloops, B.C, Canada


Posted:
What do you think. Does the art of spinning and twirling with fire give you more sex appeal... Or less sex appeal.

if more, give it on a scale of 1 to 5

if less give it on a scale of -1 to -5

if neither... give it a zero

in my experiance I know this guy who's basically a guy you never want to introduce to your friends. He's a short short man, that's grubby and sweaty from living on the street. He fire spins, and He's gone through 7 women, in 6 months... and all of them seemed, well, normal! Of course the kerosene sinks into his clothes, and makes him smell bad. I think he's just pushy with women, but fire spinning HAS to come into the formula somewhere right?

Mtn. Girlmember
65 posts
Location: Santa Cruz, California


Posted:
Wow, great question, but not one simple answer for me, personally:

Sex Appeal (1okay....5 best):
physical attraction (male or female) rates a 10+ (off the chart)

mood altering music that sucks you into the flame = 5

technical skill and ability = 5

erotic partner play = 5

ability to use a variety of toys proficiently = 5

body language, smile, enjoyment = 4

kool clothes, makeup, etc. = 4

use of space, atmosphere, location = 3/4

nonfire toys (ie. glow sticks) = 1

NO Sex Appeal:
drunk, wasted, obnoxious
I like grunge, but not smelly, gross and greasy
ego, snobby jerk (won't even give him/her 2 seconds of my time)

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PeleBRONZE Member
the henna lady
6,193 posts
Location: WNY, USA


Posted:
I agree that this is not a black and white yes it does or not it does not thing.

Here is my opinion why, for me, attitude is sexy.
Sure looks can be great and then the person opens their mouth and blows it all to hell by having too much of an ego or being very self-depreciating. These are both tremendously non-sexy qualities (note: self-depreciating meaning that they constantly go on about how terrible they are and/or how they envy others, not being humble. I find humility to be very sexy)

However, have you ever seen someone who is pretty quiet and seemingly unsure of him/herself get up and spin/dance whatever and really come alive? That is sexy. And I think that happens alot with spinners. The act gives this confidence, even if momentarily, that is just alluring.
And what is even yummier is when they come over after all smiling and panting and coyly say how much fun it was. Then it is puddle time!

So, does fire make someone sexy? My answer on the number scale is 0 ...but the attitude they sometimes get when they do it sure does.

Although, I will add too, that there is a sexy way to do fire...and it is not being all slinky about it, nor is it spinning hard and fast...it is that graceful, flowy place somewhere in the middle.

Pele
Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir
"Oooh look! A pub!" -exclaimed after recovering from a stupid fall
"And for the decadence of art, nothing beats a roaring fire." -TMK


DJ DantanaBRONZE Member
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1,495 posts
Location: Stillwater, Ok. USA


Posted:
well, based on my own reactions

athletic body shape: 5

normal body shape: 4

great technical abitities (hard moves): 5

average spinning: 2

body movement (smooth, supple, sensual): 10! (ok 5)

just standing there: 1 if doing simple moves, 5 if doing super advanced trechnical spinning

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DJ DantanaBRONZE Member
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1,495 posts
Location: Stillwater, Ok. USA


Posted:
I guess what I mean is "it depends".

yes it can be super sexy, but not always. sometimes it is mearly attractive.

with that being said, are you ready for a true story?

...a few nights ago I was twirling fire in my yard, and a beautiful girl came over from a party down the street and said (to paraphrase) "that is SO sexy, i'll bet you get women in bed frequently from doing that" then she told me where she hung out, pinched my nipple, and walked off. Now, I am a little (ok, a LOT) slow when it comes to figuring out women, but I _THINK_ I know what she was saying...

anyways, I'm sort of "spoken for" right now, but WOW, that was pretty cool. I can't say it didn't make me feel good. (violated?!?!?)

now, I will admit to doing a little hip motion (of the eastern dance styles) and a lot of flow with the fire twirling, but I wasn't trying to be sexy or anything. I was just playing around.

so, does that answer the question?

we eat and we drink and we smoke and we try!


DioHoP Mechanical Engineer
729 posts
Location: OK, USA


Posted:
quote:
(to paraphrase) "that is SO sexy, i'll bet you get women in bed frequently from doing that"
"Paraphrase"

The original quote probably went somewhere along the lines of "I've seen this guy Dio on campus who probably gets women in bed frequently from doing that. Does he teach you?"

What hits the fan is not evenly distributed.


tennisBRONZE Member
confused and abused
363 posts
Location: bristol, United Kingdom


Posted:
Then its puddle time!

Wow that's the best sentence i have ever read in my life.

Pele does that mean what i think it does?

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The_Pirate_Dyke_BoyHOP Lord of the Pirate Admiralty
1,079 posts
Location: Canterbury, UK


Posted:
i think its the rebel/danger/sheer originality of it all. Ask any random joes on the street (no offence to anyone by the name of Joe) whats a poi and they'll go "a pokemon?"
well you get the picture.

its kinda like:
"hey, s/hes alternative, open minded and athletic, i like to sleep with alternative, open minded athletic people"

catch my drift?

D.B.
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Thistleold hand
950 posts
Location: Nottingham UK


Posted:
quote:
Originally posted by Lesbian Lover:
its kinda like:
"hey, s/hes alternative, open minded and athletic, i like to sleep with alternative, open minded athletic people"

catch my drift?

Totally.

5 points for sex appeal.

There is a downside to this though. People sometimes put you on a pedestal and when they get to know you better they then realise you're an ordinary human being thus shattering their dreams and they don't fancy you anymore

Some people also start to hang out with you because they think some of what you are will rub off on them. Kind of like confidence vampires.

I take it as a compliment but I also take it with a pinch of salt.

Are we nearly there yet?


RoGOLD Member
member
57 posts
Location: Kamloops, B.C, Canada


Posted:
I for one think Pele is right... It's not really so black and white when it comes down to it. There are SOOooo many things that could factor into the sexyness equation. But attitude and how you sell yourself (I'm not talking in a prostution sense), are very important. How you spin, is dependant on how sexy fire spinning could be... If your a goof, chances are it's not that sexy. If you got some style, and some grace, hell yah!

With that in mind someone gave me this website one time, and it's sure to stirr up some heated talk. Makes some interesting points about how men and women behave and such... Here you go

PeleBRONZE Member
the henna lady
6,193 posts
Location: WNY, USA


Posted:
Tennis, Love, it can mean that I melt into a puddle, that s/he is so hot that it makes me want to wet myself or that I just get wet! Your choice!

Canadian_guy, about that Ladder Theory. Obviously it was written by a man, and I totally agree with it. My friends and I are really honest with each other, and while I am female, my closest friends are male. If given the chance, yes they would sleep with me. I know this. It has been talked about openly, and the friendship goes on.
However, the guy who wrote this has no concept on the woman side at all. When women meet a man 50% of thier impulse decisions about him are based on her assessment of his Money/Power???? Not even close!..well, for me. I am sure this is so for some women, usually gold digging bitca's, but I think for most of us this is not the case. And when single and on the prowl, many of us size up men exactly the way they size us up!


I have to say I am really surprised to see how many people think that technical spinning is sexy, and I would really like to know why? So, if you put twins next to one another..alike in style and grace, and one can pull off a jedi move but the other keeps her moves simple and graceful, the jedi move girl is sexier?

Thanks for the insights and thought provoking!

Pele
Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir
"Oooh look! A pub!" -exclaimed after recovering from a stupid fall
"And for the decadence of art, nothing beats a roaring fire." -TMK


DJ DantanaBRONZE Member
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1,495 posts
Location: Stillwater, Ok. USA


Posted:
it's not so much that, pele, it is more the fact that if a girl looks good (her body) and she is doing some realy jedi stuff with the spinning, it SO makes me want to try and make some babies with her. So then my babies will be jedi!!!

and that is what sexy (root word "sex") is all about right? It is the root of that particular urge, regardless of kama sutra et a al may allow people to do. (nothin wrong withg doing it good ) and so this feeling "rises" up. Something primal...

we eat and we drink and we smoke and we try!


sunbeamSILVER Member
old hand
1,032 posts
Location: Madrid, United Kingdom


Posted:
5+ if you're doing it for yourself not for other people and you're doing it with confidence and enjoying it.

That goes for anything not just twirling IMHO

"I don't take drugs. I am drugs" - Salvador Dali

sunny


SmallBoy - xCarpal \'Tunnel
2,737 posts
Location: London


Posted:
There's a whole summer where it did ****all for me

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SickpuPpyNinja Rockstar!
1,100 posts
Location: Denver, Co. U.S.A.


Posted:
I think it is totally subjective.

Personally I think that it isn't the fire that makes someone sexy, it is a combination of their phisical looks, personality, soul, and the energy that they project that makes a person sexy to me(though sometimes just their phisical looks, like when you see someone really hot on TV and you get tempted to drop trau). Someone who isn't sexy already isn't going to find instant sex appeal in a pair of fire poi. But I will admit that a pair or fire poi can go a long way to enhance someone's natural sex appeal, much like a well placed tattoo, or well done makeup. But it is the original package that make or breaks the deal, because to be enraptured by someone just on the sole fact that they spin fire, well, that would just make one shallow.

Jesus helps me trick people.


BlackFireJackmember
167 posts
Location: Bergen , Norway


Posted:
If your're not meant to be shown in daylight .....Well then I dont think swinging fire would help a lot when the fireshow is over.....

It's all about the person thats watching....I find that if the people watching is interested in what I'm doing they also show a interest in me......But if they dont care about firespinning it's like meeting a person the usual way...
And thats a different bag of tricks

I like Fire.. :)


RoGOLD Member
member
57 posts
Location: Kamloops, B.C, Canada


Posted:
What about the downsides to fire spinning that can be lets say... "Turn offs"? There's only a few things I can think of, and it happens only after you've finished... Reeking like Kerosene, coupled with the occational blackening of the hands or body.

There might be one more... Doing it under the influence... booze or otherwise. Nobody likes an intoxicated fool, especially one playing with fire (although it sure is fun to laugh at the person for being so dumb).

what do you guys think?

BlackFireJackmember
167 posts
Location: Bergen , Norway


Posted:
quote:
Originally posted by Canadian_guy:
Nobody likes an intoxicated fool, especially one playing with fire (although it sure is fun to laugh at the person for being so dumb).

what do you guys think?

Not often I spinn sober........happens 1 in 200 I think.....But ofcourse it's all about knowing what you're doing and how to do it.....

Taking an A4 sheet of LSD is not a good idea......
A Bong and six beer's is ok....
Coke,Ekky's,Amph's....funny...but not for a show


It's like the clothes you have to wear I guess....stay natural and you're ok....

And about the laughter thing....havent experienced it with Poi's

I like Fire.. :)


Crimson_CircusGOLD Member
Spinner: (means "freak" in German)
21 posts
Location: Traveling, Switzerland


Posted:

I'd give 2 for spinning in general (if you do not totally suck)

one star added for
- cool costume
- nice poi

two stars added for
- not wearing a shirt and looking good (for guys, otherwise well.... it's kind of bitchy if you're just performing in the street)
- Using LED or Fire heads

three stars added for
- being an arranged dancer, spinning LEDs in a disco
- using multiple heads or snakes (set on fire)
- using deathstars

four stars added
-waering an Indiana Jones hat, not wearing a shirt, having an athletic body, using a firewhip, and beeing good at it (-> most amazing guy i've ever seen)


According to my own experience. I was once practising with a (not burning) fire stock whip, a firend lent to me in the park. This pretty foodlooking girl came over and chatted with me for a while. After some time she asked me if I could show her some whip tricks. It was the 2nd time I used a whip. I told her so, but I wanted to show off so I tried. I ended up whippig myself in the back. It hurt like hell. We kept chatting for a while, and then she left.

Conclusion: A fire toy is a wonderful thing to start a conversation about, but if you want to impress girls (or guys) you should use the props you're good at (like poi).

Gata Gata Para Sum Gata Bodhisvaha.
Go far, go further, go further than ever imagined.


SpinnerofDetroitGOLD Member
All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
2,280 posts
Location: Trenton, MI, USA


Posted:
I actually plan on using this to my advantage ^^ and I know that when you spin slow and graceful, people will be amazed and melt like butter. Everyone just fell in love with my German exchange student when they heard he was a firebreather, and even more after he did firepoi. I a few months later after getting back learned what poi was and told him over Facebook and he thought it was awesome. He doesn't have an account on here I don't think, because he gets his stuff through Feuershow.de
What I noticed is that, he did nothing special, weaves, butterfly, fountain, chasing the sun splittime, and people were freaking out when he did the buzzsaw and brought it up by his face and down to his crotch. I have just about found my style and can't wait for my first burn.
Edit: Is it wrong at all that I use fire poi to get someone to go out with me? Or is it our given privilege?
EDITED_BY: SpinnerofDetroit (1260414488)

The only luck is bad luck.

Shut up before I stall my poi up your ass grin


Seaspraystranger by the day
924 posts
Location: At the Back of the North Wind


Posted:
given privilege I'd say.
Other goals do help you continue after obtaining said date, but if it works, don't knock it tongue2

Just a dancer in the dark


SpinnerofDetroitGOLD Member
All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
2,280 posts
Location: Trenton, MI, USA


Posted:
Yeah, I figure, after all that practice, I think it's a right to extort it. I actually plan on using this to host parties. As I get better, I can deal with a bigger and bigger audience. And also about the rating thing. What do you guys think (this is me pretty much) a normally quiet person who invites some people he doesn't know to well (they know me I did a speech at school in front of them and now because of what it was I can talk to near anyone I want and it's normal) and inviting a few people along with a couple of friends to a small party for my first burn. And when I burn, I tend to have a large smile on my face and a recently discovered style that I can't really explain, but I love it. And while doing it and a while after, really confident about everything and really ecstatic. Just wanting a girl's opinion on this.

The only luck is bad luck.

Shut up before I stall my poi up your ass grin


Fine_Rabid_DogInternet Hate Machine
10,530 posts
Location: They seek him here, they seek him there...


Posted:
[Old link]

[quick edit] Page 2 is were it gets good wink

[I actually read the thread edit] Pele hit the nail on the head with this one.
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Zephyre PhoenixFamiliar stranger giving out popcorn. (formerly Ascilith)
1,264 posts
Location: Lawrence, KS


Posted:
Id say i aggree with the others. Fires cool no matter what, but like someone earlier said (too lazy to go back and look), attitude has a lot to do with it. Nobody likes a cocky fire spinner. Extreme douche bags with fire is bad. For surface appeal though, Here's what i'd say.

Good spinning: 5
(If ur good, Everyone's gonna love it)

Fire: 5
(Dangerous and sexy to some. Some people i've talked to think playing with fire is really really brave)

Form and elegance: 4
(It really helps to be elegant and flowing, but if ur good/know your tricks well enough, you can flub a little on the elegance)

Clothing or lack therof: 4
(again, if you're a really good spinner, nobody's gonna be watching the cloths as much, but it IS an added bonus. Specially if you can spin shirtless and look good (Guys) or something stylish yet not like openly skanky(Girls))

Smiling/attitude/disposition: 5
(Like i said, nobody likes a douche bag spinner. Be yourself, just be nice to people.)

Other toys non fire: Depends. -4 to 2
(Some people, I've found, Hate watching spinning glowsticks or leds. They think its really really stupid. Others, think that glowsticks are fantastic and one of the coolest things they've ever seen. It's all knowing your audience with that one. Some places, they'll praise you. Others, they'll laugh you out)

Never take candy from strangers...... But popcorn is okay!


SpinnerofDetroitGOLD Member
All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
2,280 posts
Location: Trenton, MI, USA


Posted:
I would hate someone if they they laughed out someone for glowsticks, that's just stupid. For me, I'm not sure, I've never seen a woman do anything with fire in person so I don't know.

The only luck is bad luck.

Shut up before I stall my poi up your ass grin



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