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After much consideration, I find that the view is worth the asphyxiation.
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Hoppers are angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have trouble remembering how to fly.

Is it the Truth?
Is it Fair to all concerned?
Will it build Goodwill and Better Friendships?
Will it be Beneficial to all concerned?

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 Written by: The_Magnesium_Master



I am definitly not an expert on all aspects of the occult, but I can guarantee you that you can percieve yourself go out of your body and observe things that can confirm the authenticity of the experience 100%, and that solid matter can be penetrated and time warped in this realm. Unfortunately I have also heard the things you see are real, but seen for you by external demonic spirits. This means you actually stay put in your own body but effectively tune yourself into a whole host of demonic forces that can not only allow you to see things external to the place you are at at the start of the experience, but also expose yourself to corruption by spirits that feed false information directly to you aswell.



This is why you need a witness to anything you have seen (in the spirit world or the physical world) to veryfy that you saw it yourself, or at least had the same spirit corrupt both you and your witness.



Personally I can not recomend strongly enough that you stay totally away from the occult world as it soon leads to you being unable to trust anything you see, dream, or do. You will begin to have total awareness of everything you dream about, but also loose the abillity to tell truth from fiction ie you have dreams and out of body experiences so realistic there is no way to tell the difference between them and your normal waking hours.



Time also changes such that you appear to have tens if not hundreds of times more time engauged in activities in dreams or in the spirit worlds, relative to the experiences of the physical world. The advantage is that this will realy fast track your spiritual evolution. The bad news is that you will also feel as old and tired as methuselah, and your memory will be dreadfull as you feel like your trying to remember about 10 000 years worth of things from the spirit world , as well as everything from your current life in the physical world, and there just is not enough room in your head to fit it all in. If you are prone to nightmares like I am then it is even worse, your life can soon become an endless video of terrible things , similar to the effects of adrenaline psycosis or post traumatic stress dissorder.



Many people warned me of the dangers of the spirit world and many more told me it is perfectly safe, all based on their own experiences there, but I deffinitly beleive it is a place filled with extream danger to avoid at all costs, and thats speaking as someone who's been heavilly involved with this facet of the occult and got out of it because of the fact that you see so many things you can tell are false or bad (often you will be stripped of the abillity to judge this while actually in the spirit world)



The Bible expressly forbids consulting the spirits of the dead, so this leads me to hold the view that any such contact actually results from demonic spirits acting as imposters in a similar way to the warning above on out of body experiences.



The other thing I wory about is a verse in the bible in hebrews someware that says it is apointed for men to die once, then the judgement. Also a verse in john that says something about there then only being 2 options, these ultimately being rebirth once only in iether heven or hell. (You would need someone with a good knowledge of scrippture to help you out on this one)



I have had very greatly reduced expsure to these types of experiences since converting to christianity a few years ago. One consequence of following the gosples is that it leads to what is refered to as baptism by the Holy Spirit. The best way of describing this is to say that you become ruled by a spirit (provided directly by God ) that gives you even greater wisdom than can be gained from the spirit world of astral traveling, gives you a strong sence of write and wrong, gives incredible disipline and patience and also makes sinfull activities and things visable to you so you can avoid them. Sin actually feels vile to be near, and becoming enlightened to your old sinfull ways and repenting of them is like being born without a sence of smell, growing up surrounded by rotten fish, and then gradually developing a sence of smell. You start avoiding the foulest rotten things first and soon stay away from all of them as you realise that they are bad.



This leads me to believe my reduction in OOB activity is probably due to this Holy Spirit displacing demonic spirits, thus leading me to suspect your own spirit is not actually what you see with durring an OOBE and that demonic imposters are actually what you are consulting with when sensing or seeing the spirits of the dead.



Another thing I have been thinking about involves the fact that many Christian sects say the soul/spirit dies and then gets reborn after death while others say these things do not die but are what is used to re incarnate once only in heven or hell (or continualy in many eastern religions).

Since occult training strengthens these spirit bodies such that they can be perceived to exit the physical body with greater and greater ease, does that mean that it will make reincarnation imposible as they can never actually die in order to be reborn, make them strong enough to enable rebirth to occur only following hard core occult training, or just train the practitioners to allow demonic imposters to find and enter their bodies with greater and greater ease?

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