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MikeGinnyGOLD Member
HOP Mad Doctor
13,925 posts
Location: San Francisco, CA, USA


Posted:
Name: Mike

Location: San Francisco, CA, USA (A.K.A. The Best City In The World)

Hometown: Bloomfield Hills, MI, USA

DOB: 8 July 1977

Age: 34

Sex: I'm married, so not very often anymore. wink

Gender: OH! You meant THAT! I am biologically male and I identify as such.

Occupation: Physician (Pediatrics)

Favorite Food: Sushi

Favorite Colors: Red and Blue

Toys: Poi, Staff, Flags, Glowsticks, Contact Ball, Eating Torches

Hobbies other than the obvious: Cooking, camping, swimming, sailing, skiing, molecular biology, reading, traveling.

Education: B.S. Biological Sciences, Stanford University 2000
M.S. Biological Sciences, Stanford University 2001
M.D. University of Michigan, 2005

Favorite Book(s): The Mars Trilogy by Kim Stanley Robinson
The Foundation Series by Isaac Asimov
The Revelation Space series by Alastair Reynolds.

Favorite Movies: Baraka, Run Lola Run, The Fifth Element, Snatch, City of God, The Incredibles

Favorite TV shows: I don't really watch TV.

What I want to do when I grow up: At long last, I am DOING it! Yes, I am actually doing my dream job and I'M GETTING PAID WELL TO DO IT!!!

Fun fact: I have had to run from the police. While naked. Twice. And I got away both times.

Boring fact: A 7-day course of oral prednisone at 60mg/day increased esophageal gastric acid contact time in stable adult asthmatics.

Favorite Music Artists/Composers: Trance[]Control, Beethoven, Enigma, Bach, Airbase, Haydn, Astral Projection, Shpongle, Vivaldi, Juno Reactor, Bob Marley, Mozart, Handel.

Favorite beverage: Diet Dr. Pepper

Favorite Incense: Japanese cherry blossom

Number of strange categories I can come up with: infinite

Marmite/Vegemite/Nutella orientation: High Priest of the Holy Church of Nutella.

Ok, so that's me. Now you post something. grin

EDITED_BY: Doc Lightning (1317185783)

-Mike

Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella



A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura


pounceSILVER Member
All the neurotic makings of America's lesser known sweetheart
9,831 posts
Location: body in Las Vegas, heart all around the world, USA


Posted:
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SWEET!!!! so i take it your date went well last night then?





Considering it ended at 10 in the morning. spank wink




right on! go you!!!! hug hug spank spank

I was always scared with my mother's obsession with the good scissors. It made me wonder if there were evil scissors lurking in the house somewhere.

Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons for you are crunchy and good with ketchup.

**giggles**


vanizeSILVER Member
Carpal \'Tunnel
3,899 posts
Location: Austin, Texas, USA


Posted:
even medical shamen need their hot dates!

So, to beat this ADD/ADHD thing into the ground, my friend who I refered to in my last post could never seem to find a medication that helped her for more than about 6 months to a year. if what you say about medicating people for life is true, this must not be the case for most people. Is that correct?

I would be interested to see if kids in montasori schools (where supposedly the philosophy is to teach kids more by hands on methods and to also stimulate their interest in the learning process itself) have the same incidence of ADHD diagnosis as kids in public schools.

But what you said about star people is very much what I meant in my last post, just worded much better. That we look at it as a handycap is wrong in my eyes. while I can totally appreciate the fact that star people respond well to ritalin, especialy after my experiment with adderall, that they should be burdened with both the societal stigma of something being percieved as wrong with them and the expectation that they have to take a drug to get anything done in their lives, is complete BS in my view. My friend diagnosed with ADD had a problem for sure, but it wasn't the ADD if you ask me, it was her self image because of it. The response to this is of course that her self image problems were a result of her behaviorial problem and whatever from before being diagnosed, not from the diagnosis, but I think it was both. I had those same problems myself at her age. Most interesting people I know did. In the 1970's and early '80's, you just worked it out, and the problems you encountered because of it either defeated you or made you stronger. you decided if you were really different or not, and took the initiative to overcome. I have my PhD and am adventuring in Africa right now because of it. But I see the way my friend, who in most other respects is like very much like me, deals with it and I feel sad for her. Sad that someone came along and told her that she has something wrong with her and that she believes it. Sad that she thinks she needs drugs to accomplish things. Sad that she uses ADD as a crutch to say why she can't do something instead of using it as a tool to accomplish great things in her life.

I'm not saying that we shouldn't treat ADD/ADHD. I'm just saying we shouldn't treat it as a disease or a handycap. We should instead encourage them to step up to the challenge - make them aware that certain things will be more difficult for them, but that other things will be easier (and that both will certainly be true with taking the drugs as well, though which things fall under which category may change). Awareness and acceptance that you are neither like most people, nor alone in the world with that difference, can itself can make a big difference in attitude.

I do not question your work, lightning. In fact I praise it. clearly you are thinking about the ramifications of diagnosis and treatment, and because of this I wish that someday you could be the physician treating me and my (as of yet hypothetical) family. But then it sounds like your ambitions aren't leading you towards being a general practitioner. oh well, I'm sure you'll do well in whatever field you go into. Just be sure to not burn yourself out.

One last thing that you might find mildly interesting is the phrase the Afrikaans have for the "star people"; they say that they are "through the leaves". I have a hard time finding anyone who will conjecture as to why they say that though. But then I often find myself looking up at the sky through the leaves and watching the patterns there, so....

-v-

Wiederstand ist Zwecklos!


KajiQuantum Theorist
564 posts
Location: Vansterdam


Posted:
Hey Mike whats up. Just thought I'd drop in and say hi. I guess I should redo my intro too. Lets see if more people post in it this time. (hint hint)

UCOF: lol I have to agree that you probably have ADHD (or some such). No offence but ever tried to carry on a conversation longer then 4 minutes with yourself? lol j/k were you been anyway. Haven't seen you online for a while.

In the 60's people took acid to make the world weird, now the world is weird and they take prozac to make it normal again.


pounceSILVER Member
All the neurotic makings of America's lesser known sweetheart
9,831 posts
Location: body in Las Vegas, heart all around the world, USA


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So, to beat this ADD/ADHD thing into the ground, my friend who I refered to in my last post could never seem to find a medication that helped her for more than about 6 months to a year. if what you say about medicating people for life is true, this must not be the case for most people. Is that correct?




this is true. adhd seems to be one of the more affluent subjects for study in the psych. field. we still don't have all the info and find that there are different types of adhd. mike mentioned before that we find kids with adhd have understimulated brains, which is the reason they are constantly hyperactive because they self-stimulate. one way we try to help that is through medication, but not everyone responds to the medication and we still are not 100% sure why.

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I would be interested to see if kids in montasori schools (where supposedly the philosophy is to teach kids more by hands on methods and to also stimulate their interest in the learning process itself) have the same incidence of ADHD diagnosis as kids in public schools.




actually, one of the areas of research in adhd is looking at "gifted" kids. there is a belief that many of the kids in gifted programs that have excelled in school do have adhd, and we are now studying them to see how they cope. i believe that i probably have adhd or did have as a child. but the way i coped was to push myself in school. if i didn't have something to do constantly then i got bored and neglected everything. i graduated undergrad in 3 years because of this. and i could have graduated high school in 3 years also but chose not to, instead i took the hardest classes possible. if i wasn't overstimulated with work, then i wouldn't get it done cause i'd occupy my time with other things.

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But what you said about star people is very much what I meant in my last post, just worded much better. That we look at it as a handycap is wrong in my eyes. while I can totally appreciate the fact that star people respond well to ritalin, especialy after my experiment with adderall, that they should be burdened with both the societal stigma of something being percieved as wrong with them and the expectation that they have to take a drug to get anything done in their lives, is complete BS in my view. My friend diagnosed with ADD had a problem for sure, but it wasn't the ADD if you ask me, it was her self image because of it. The response to this is of course that her self image problems were a result of her behaviorial problem and whatever from before being diagnosed, not from the diagnosis, but I think it was both. I had those same problems myself at her age. Most interesting people I know did. In the 1970's and early '80's, you just worked it out, and the problems you encountered because of it either defeated you or made you stronger. you decided if you were really different or not, and took the initiative to overcome. I have my PhD and am adventuring in Africa right now because of it. But I see the way my friend, who in most other respects is like very much like me, deals with it and I feel sad for her. Sad that someone came along and told her that she has something wrong with her and that she believes it. Sad that she thinks she needs drugs to accomplish things. Sad that she uses ADD as a crutch to say why she can't do something instead of using it as a tool to accomplish great things in her life.




ya the social stigma of any psychological disorder really sucks. i'd love to put that more eloquently, but the reality is just that. i deal with it every day with my clients. you know what the modal (most common) number of sessions is? one. that's cause a lot of people come in because they aren't doing too well, but then they freak out about the stigma and don't want to come back. believe me, i know this both with my clients and myself. even as a psychologist, i had a hard time being ok with going to therapy. go figure. but it was just the problem of feeling like there was something "wrong" with me that i couldn't fix myself. it's the prevailing idea in america. we should be perfect, and if we aren't we should be able to fix ourselves, and it's just a load of BS.

that being said, i don't think medicating a disorder is necessarily wrong. many of these problems have a medical basis to it, and yes in a number of incidences it can be addressed through alternative means. however, some times it can't. the fact that we see taking medication for a "mental" problem as a bad thing goes along with the idea that we should be able to fix ourselves. in some instances, no amount of therapy, alternative approaches, whatever, will correct a problem. and as a therapist, for me to convey the idea that a person shouldn't take medication if in fact it's the best treatment approach is just unethical. i tell all my clients the same thing when they are considering medication but are uneasy about it.....if you had diabetes and needed insulin to stay healthy, would you not take it just because you don't want to be dependent on medication? most likely not. it's the same thing for depression, schizophrenia, ADHD, whatever. if the medication allows you to stay healthy, then you shouldn't see it as a bad thing.

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I'm not saying that we shouldn't treat ADD/ADHD. I'm just saying we shouldn't treat it as a disease or a handycap. We should instead encourage them to step up to the challenge - make them aware that certain things will be more difficult for them, but that other things will be easier (and that both will certainly be true with taking the drugs as well, though which things fall under which category may change). Awareness and acceptance that you are neither like most people, nor alone in the world with that difference, can itself can make a big difference in attitude.




well put!

I was always scared with my mother's obsession with the good scissors. It made me wonder if there were evil scissors lurking in the house somewhere.

Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons for you are crunchy and good with ketchup.

**giggles**


MikeGinnyGOLD Member
HOP Mad Doctor
13,925 posts
Location: San Francisco, CA, USA


Posted:
Quote:

So, to beat this ADD/ADHD thing into the ground, my friend who I refered to in my last post could never seem to find a medication that helped her for more than about 6 months to a year. if what you say about medicating people for life is true, this must not be the case for most people. Is that correct?





Depends on the individual. Some patients develop tolerance to the meds very rapidly. I've heard of patients who need to switch between two different meds as often as every 2 weeks to prevent tolerance from developing.

Me, on the other hand, I've been on it for 18 years and never developed much tolerance.

I agree that ADHD isn't necessarily a handicap or disease, per se. However, it raises an interesting medical ethics question. If it's not a disorder, then we shouldn't be treating it. So where does that leave us?

ADHD should never be an excuse. That makes me see red. But the difference I've seen in lives made by proper treatment is amazing. The woman who broke down in tears becuse for the first time in her life, she finished all her errands in one day without forgetting any. The man who came in beaming because he finished a book for the first time in his life. The kid who managed to make it through an entire week without getting sent to the principal's office... When you've seen that, you can't believe that meds will ever go away, or that simply changing our educational system will fix the problem. ADHDers have suffered for generations, as have sufferers of all other diseases and disorders. But the subtlety of our disorder is what damns us. Nobody questions the diagnosis of schizophrenia or bipolar disorder, but ADHD is so difficult to accept because it's so subtle.

I think it's important to remember that meds don't cure ADHD. They aren't the easy way out. All they do is make the hard work produce results.

-Mike

Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella



A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura


vanizeSILVER Member
Carpal \'Tunnel
3,899 posts
Location: Austin, Texas, USA


Posted:
cool, thanks for the input good people! beerchug

the ADD thing has really been buggin me for the last couple of years, but I've never gotten the chance to talk with experts on it.

-v-

Wiederstand ist Zwecklos!


pounceSILVER Member
All the neurotic makings of America's lesser known sweetheart
9,831 posts
Location: body in Las Vegas, heart all around the world, USA


Posted:
any time hun. believe me, i often like to leave work at work, but when i get into it, i love to talk about psychology. you can pick my brain anytime biggrin

I was always scared with my mother's obsession with the good scissors. It made me wonder if there were evil scissors lurking in the house somewhere.

Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons for you are crunchy and good with ketchup.

**giggles**


MikeGinnyGOLD Member
HOP Mad Doctor
13,925 posts
Location: San Francisco, CA, USA


Posted:
Quote:

Found everyone's thoughts on ADHD very interesting, especially those on diagnosis. Although my two year old son's long term plans seem to revolve around demolishing our house, I don't think he has this disorder. However, I'm researching it as much as I can so that if became concerned, I could approach a health professional and ensure my son was diagnosed correctly smile





In my opinion, you can't get a reliable diagnosis before age 5 or 6 at the youngest.

-Mike

Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella



A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura


pounceSILVER Member
All the neurotic makings of America's lesser known sweetheart
9,831 posts
Location: body in Las Vegas, heart all around the world, USA


Posted:
**wanders in with some cupcakes**

so what's going on in here? i brought some desserts! smile

I was always scared with my mother's obsession with the good scissors. It made me wonder if there were evil scissors lurking in the house somewhere.

Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons for you are crunchy and good with ketchup.

**giggles**


MikeGinnyGOLD Member
HOP Mad Doctor
13,925 posts
Location: San Francisco, CA, USA


Posted:
Mmmmm! Cupcakes! I'm just glad they're virtual cupcakes with virtual calories. I overindulged a bit in the food department over Thanksgiving and I'm actually trying to lose weight.

I have had washboard abs, I know they're down there...they're just hiding again. frown

-Mike

Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella



A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura


pounceSILVER Member
All the neurotic makings of America's lesser known sweetheart
9,831 posts
Location: body in Las Vegas, heart all around the world, USA


Posted:
oh lovely, i have some laundry to do. might i borrow your stomach?

**feeling very silly today**

I was always scared with my mother's obsession with the good scissors. It made me wonder if there were evil scissors lurking in the house somewhere.

Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons for you are crunchy and good with ketchup.

**giggles**


MikeGinnyGOLD Member
HOP Mad Doctor
13,925 posts
Location: San Francisco, CA, USA


Posted:
Gimme a few weeks and then you can. Right now, the only thing my tummy is good for is serving as a soft pillow. rolleyes

-Mike

Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella



A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura


telicI don't want a title.
940 posts

Posted:
::curls up on Lightning's tummy, if he lets her::

Mm, comfy. I can work on my Con Law outline from here. Yup.

E pluribus unum, baby.


MikeGinnyGOLD Member
HOP Mad Doctor
13,925 posts
Location: San Francisco, CA, USA


Posted:
*lets Regyt curl up on his tummy and pulls out head tingler*

-Mike

Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella



A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura


pounceSILVER Member
All the neurotic makings of America's lesser known sweetheart
9,831 posts
Location: body in Las Vegas, heart all around the world, USA


Posted:
aww, is there room for me too?

looks up with hopeful eyes

ubbangel

I was always scared with my mother's obsession with the good scissors. It made me wonder if there were evil scissors lurking in the house somewhere.

Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons for you are crunchy and good with ketchup.

**giggles**


MikeGinnyGOLD Member
HOP Mad Doctor
13,925 posts
Location: San Francisco, CA, USA


Posted:
It's a big tummy. wink

-Mike

Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella



A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura


pounceSILVER Member
All the neurotic makings of America's lesser known sweetheart
9,831 posts
Location: body in Las Vegas, heart all around the world, USA


Posted:
oh goodie

curls up next to regyt

I was always scared with my mother's obsession with the good scissors. It made me wonder if there were evil scissors lurking in the house somewhere.

Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons for you are crunchy and good with ketchup.

**giggles**


MikeGinnyGOLD Member
HOP Mad Doctor
13,925 posts
Location: San Francisco, CA, USA


Posted:
pounce! If you keep licking my belly, I'm going to start laughing because I'm ticklish and then you're going to get bounced off because of the laughing.

So ixnae on the licking!

-Mike

Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella



A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura


pounceSILVER Member
All the neurotic makings of America's lesser known sweetheart
9,831 posts
Location: body in Las Vegas, heart all around the world, USA


Posted:
**giggles**

i must still be cracked out, i didn't realize i was licking. ubblol ah well, sounds like something i'd do wink

I was always scared with my mother's obsession with the good scissors. It made me wonder if there were evil scissors lurking in the house somewhere.

Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons for you are crunchy and good with ketchup.

**giggles**


bluecatgeek, level 1
5,300 posts
Location: everywhere


Posted:
*wanders in. spots the pile going on on mike tum. joins in. tickles mikes tummy with excessive dreads. gets thrown off. waves wave. leaves*

Holistic Spinner (I hope)


MikeGinnyGOLD Member
HOP Mad Doctor
13,925 posts
Location: San Francisco, CA, USA


Posted:
*watches the pile of people suddenly bounce off his tummy and fly into the air*

Hey!

Regyt, puonce, get that interloper!

-Mike

Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella



A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura


telicI don't want a title.
940 posts

Posted:
Right-o. ::tackles bluecat and tickles him mercilessly::

E pluribus unum, baby.


bluecatgeek, level 1
5,300 posts
Location: everywhere


Posted:
too late.


already miiiiiles away!


ubblol(evil laugh) ubblol


coolR

Holistic Spinner (I hope)


vanizeSILVER Member
Carpal \'Tunnel
3,899 posts
Location: Austin, Texas, USA


Posted:
Hey Mike, you never tried to guess which of the Pixie Banger nickname theories on my thread was the real one... frown

-v-

Wiederstand ist Zwecklos!


pounceSILVER Member
All the neurotic makings of America's lesser known sweetheart
9,831 posts
Location: body in Las Vegas, heart all around the world, USA


Posted:
darn it....must go track him down and tickle him....cmon regyt, let's go!

I was always scared with my mother's obsession with the good scissors. It made me wonder if there were evil scissors lurking in the house somewhere.

Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons for you are crunchy and good with ketchup.

**giggles**


telicI don't want a title.
940 posts

Posted:
Can't run... am held immobile by bluecat's strangely hypnotic icon.. eek

E pluribus unum, baby.


pounceSILVER Member
All the neurotic makings of America's lesser known sweetheart
9,831 posts
Location: body in Las Vegas, heart all around the world, USA


Posted:
don't look into the light! stay away from the light!

oh, wait, it's just a cat.

oh my, it is a strangely hypnotic cat.

can't

take

eyes

off

cat

....

....

I was always scared with my mother's obsession with the good scissors. It made me wonder if there were evil scissors lurking in the house somewhere.

Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons for you are crunchy and good with ketchup.

**giggles**


vanizeSILVER Member
Carpal \'Tunnel
3,899 posts
Location: Austin, Texas, USA


Posted:
ubblol ubblol ubblol

-v-

Wiederstand ist Zwecklos!


bluecatgeek, level 1
5,300 posts
Location: everywhere


Posted:
MOOOHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!!!


just think yourself lucky its the angel cat and not my alter ego..

beware the dark side.....*breathes heavily*

ubbangel


ubblol

Holistic Spinner (I hope)


pounceSILVER Member
All the neurotic makings of America's lesser known sweetheart
9,831 posts
Location: body in Las Vegas, heart all around the world, USA


Posted:
he's back! grab em!

**tickles bluecat mercilessly**

I was always scared with my mother's obsession with the good scissors. It made me wonder if there were evil scissors lurking in the house somewhere.

Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons for you are crunchy and good with ketchup.

**giggles**


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