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Palming
Palming a staff is an elegant move whereby a staff is set spinning around it's centre on an open palm, usually on the flat of the palm and with the palm is parallel with the horizon.


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This trick is performed in two phases, a snapping setup then a balancing platform of the palm - both if which require control and dilligence. The snap provides the torque for the staff, the balancing part discreetly keeps the staff spinning.

The snapping setup is done by sharply and simultaneously turning the elbow outward, starting from a position similar to the topmost figure in the above illustration and moving into the position the middle figure. When coordinated well with some power, this sideways snapping action provides enough torque momentum for several staff revolutions.

In preparation to open one's hand, the grasp of the staff should be from underneath at this stage if it is not already, as is shown in the middlemost figure.

As the arm fully outstretches and your palm opens up, care should be taken in raising the staff above shoulder level so that your arms do not obstruct it - the arm should now appear as is shown in the lowermost figure. This movement should be gradual and your hands move gracefully to a stop so as not to accidentally toss the spinning staff sidewards.

Finally, with arm outstretched and staff spinning on an open palm, all that is left to do is to manipulate the staff by the fingers, moving them rigidly from the base of the knuckles in manner not unlike massaging. When applied in a peristaltic manner, this massaging action provides some added momentum, but primarily it should be used to manipulate the staff's axis of movement fixed - In the above example, the axis is in the middle of the fingers.

As friction on your palm gradualy overcome the torque momentum in the staff's spin, the staff can easily be captured in the hand again simply by closing your grip as the spnning staff aligns with your grasp. From this point you may execute a horizontal transition to another move, or even execute another snapping setup into another palming move!

Palming Hints
To perform this with fire, it is advisable to use a shorter stick as not only should the staff's length should reach short of one's face (eek!) but additional staff length be scarificed to keep the wicked flames away too!

Heavy staves allow more momentum and thus more revolutions, while flatter handles provide for easier balancing. To sustain the palming almost indefinitely, one would set about it with such a staff, incredible initial torque in the snapping setup and masterful finger balancing.

If your fingers keep getting in the way when the spinning staff is in your open palm, sometimes it helps to bend your fingers even farther back, further reducing the chances of interrupting the spin.

The setup is very hard on the wrists, as your forarms muscles power alot of the thrust - please stretch your wrists on all directions thoroughly to minimise the risk of injury.

Palming Variations
The variation shown in the above animation is a synchronised double palm. Both palms needn't go up at the same time though, but symmetry lends to the elagance of this move. With the body crouched over, one is also able to execute a btb (behind the back) variation.

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i stole this offa tutorial website.
i hope he don't mind

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Palming
Palming a staff is an elegant move whereby a staff is set spinning around it's centre on an open palm, usually on the flat of the palm and with the palm is parallel with the horizon.



This trick is performed in two phases, a snapping setup then a balancing platform of the palm - both if which require control and dilligence. The snap provides the torque for the staff, the balancing part discreetly keeps the staff spinning.

The snapping setup is done by sharply and simultaneously turning the elbow outward, starting from a position similar to the topmost figure in the above illustration and moving into the position the middle figure. When coordinated well with some power, this sideways snapping action provides enough torque momentum for several staff revolutions.

In preparation to open one's hand, the grasp of the staff should be from underneath at this stage if it is not already, as is shown in the middlemost figure.

As the arm fully outstretches and your palm opens up, care should be taken in raising the staff above shoulder level so that your arms do not obstruct it - the arm should now appear as is shown in the lowermost figure. This movement should be gradual and your hands move gracefully to a stop so as not to accidentally toss the spinning staff sidewards.

Finally, with arm outstretched and staff spinning on an open palm, all that is left to do is to manipulate the staff by the fingers, moving them rigidly from the base of the knuckles in manner not unlike massaging. When applied in a peristaltic manner, this massaging action provides some added momentum, but primarily it should be used to manipulate the staff's axis of movement fixed - In the above example, the axis is in the middle of the fingers.

As friction on your palm gradualy overcome the torque momentum in the staff's spin, the staff can easily be captured in the hand again simply by closing your grip as the spnning staff aligns with your grasp. From this point you may execute a horizontal transition to another move, or even execute another snapping setup into another palming move!

Palming Hints
To perform this with fire, it is advisable to use a shorter stick as not only should the staff's length should reach short of one's face (eek!) but additional staff length be scarificed to keep the wicked flames away too!

Heavy staves allow more momentum and thus more revolutions, while flatter handles provide for easier balancing. To sustain the palming almost indefinitely, one would set about it with such a staff, incredible initial torque in the snapping setup and masterful finger balancing.

If your fingers keep getting in the way when the spinning staff is in your open palm, sometimes it helps to bend your fingers even farther back, further reducing the chances of interrupting the spin.

The setup is very hard on the wrists, as your forarms muscles power alot of the thrust - please stretch your wrists on all directions thoroughly to minimise the risk of injury.

Palming Variations
The variation shown in the above animation is a synchronised double palm. Both palms needn't go up at the same time though, but symmetry lends to the elagance of this move. With the body crouched over, one is also able to execute a btb (behind the back) variation.

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