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HOP Mad Doctor
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HOP Mad Doctor
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Location: San Francisco, CA, USA
Posted:
Ok, so on my surgical rotations, I run into two big complaints.
1)Pain
2)Nausea
Now, if I gave you a choice of being in pain (and I mean pretty bad pain) or being nauseated, which would you choose?
I'd pick pain. I think nausea is the worst feeling ever.
Ok, so on my surgical rotations, I run into two big complaints.
1)Pain
2)Nausea
Now, if I gave you a choice of being in pain (and I mean pretty bad pain) or being nauseated, which would you choose?
I'd pick pain. I think nausea is the worst feeling ever.
-Mike
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ZORT!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia
ZORT!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia
Posted:
pain can be tolerated and controlled, whereas nausea is generally crap.
yay for pain!!
pain can be tolerated and controlled, whereas nausea is generally crap.
yay for pain!!
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Posted:
I second that... I to can handle the pain... but that damn feeling of nausea...
I second that... I to can handle the pain... but that damn feeling of nausea...
I can't hear you... I have a banana in my ear.
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada.
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada.
Posted:
Pain.
I think we experience a lot more pain in our lives then nausea so we just aren't used to nausea.
Maybe if your a sailor you would rate nausea easier to cope with then pain.
Pain.
I think we experience a lot more pain in our lives then nausea so we just aren't used to nausea.
Maybe if your a sailor you would rate nausea easier to cope with then pain.
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Location: sheffield, United Kingdom
Carpal \'Tunnel
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Location: sheffield, United Kingdom
Posted:
When I was young I used to get migraines of the type that used to be called 'classical migraine'.
These involve some disturbing visual disturbances which progress over a half hour period, then dissapear, to be replaced by the headache.
This builds to a really bad pain and then nausea also starts.
At this point the only thing to do is crawl into bed in a dark room.
The head pain would build and the nausea become the 'rolling' variety until it was impossible to avoid vomiting.
This would bring a few minutes of relief, then the pain and nausea would build again- the cycle repeating over several hours.
I don't know which I'd choose between pain and nausea, it depends on what kind of pain and how bad (for example, a headache can be tolerable, but if it moves behind the eyes it's much, much worse) but I can say from experience that having them together is really bad!
As I've got older I still get the migraines, but I've learnt some useful stuff that means that, though I still get the initial visual disturbances, the following pain is usually much milder and nausea is very rare.
When I was young I used to get migraines of the type that used to be called 'classical migraine'.
These involve some disturbing visual disturbances which progress over a half hour period, then dissapear, to be replaced by the headache.
This builds to a really bad pain and then nausea also starts.
At this point the only thing to do is crawl into bed in a dark room.
The head pain would build and the nausea become the 'rolling' variety until it was impossible to avoid vomiting.
This would bring a few minutes of relief, then the pain and nausea would build again- the cycle repeating over several hours.
I don't know which I'd choose between pain and nausea, it depends on what kind of pain and how bad (for example, a headache can be tolerable, but if it moves behind the eyes it's much, much worse) but I can say from experience that having them together is really bad!
As I've got older I still get the migraines, but I've learnt some useful stuff that means that, though I still get the initial visual disturbances, the following pain is usually much milder and nausea is very rare.
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10th degree spoon weilder
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Location: Halifax, Canada (currently in Korea)
10th degree spoon weilder
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Location: Halifax, Canada (currently in Korea)
Posted:
I'd take pain for sure.... wow, never thought I'd ever say that..
I'd take pain for sure.... wow, never thought I'd ever say that..
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Posted:
Yeah, ithink pain too, and ive had a lot physicly and emotionaly, but nausea, though i havent had it, recently is really sucks when i get it.
Yeah, ithink pain too, and ive had a lot physicly and emotionaly, but nausea, though i havent had it, recently is really sucks when i get it.
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada.
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Posted:
Onewheeled dave I had classic migraines when I was younger to, although I learned how to deal with the nausea very early on because vomitting with a migraine makes the migraine like 10 times worse, then you get more nausea and so on untill you start to cry and the tears make it worse and it's horrible.
They went away completly when I was about 8 years old.
Onewheeled dave I had classic migraines when I was younger to, although I learned how to deal with the nausea very early on because vomitting with a migraine makes the migraine like 10 times worse, then you get more nausea and so on untill you start to cry and the tears make it worse and it's horrible.
They went away completly when I was about 8 years old.
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Posted:
Pain. You can reinterpret it and tell your body: this is a sensation, and a strong one, and since we're stuck with it we may as well interpret it as pleasurable. I managed to do that with blister-forming boots I needed to walk home in, even, but I've never been able to reinterpret nausea.
Pain. You can reinterpret it and tell your body: this is a sensation, and a strong one, and since we're stuck with it we may as well interpret it as pleasurable. I managed to do that with blister-forming boots I needed to walk home in, even, but I've never been able to reinterpret nausea.
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All the neurotic makings of America's lesser known sweetheart
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All the neurotic makings of America's lesser known sweetheart
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Location: body in Las Vegas, heart all around the world, USA
Posted:
pain
when i was 12, i had really horrible pains in my side that i thought my appendix had burst. i couldn't find my parents, so a family friend took me to the hospital, but they couldn't treat me or anything without my parents permission (the pain was bad, but there were no signs of me being in critical condition). it took us like 3 hours to find my parents....i learned how to make the pain go away through meditation. nausea, on the other hand, just plain sucks
the pain, for those who are interested, turned out to be me ovulating. i was so embarrassed.
pain
when i was 12, i had really horrible pains in my side that i thought my appendix had burst. i couldn't find my parents, so a family friend took me to the hospital, but they couldn't treat me or anything without my parents permission (the pain was bad, but there were no signs of me being in critical condition). it took us like 3 hours to find my parents....i learned how to make the pain go away through meditation. nausea, on the other hand, just plain sucks
the pain, for those who are interested, turned out to be me ovulating. i was so embarrassed.
I was always scared with my mother's obsession with the good scissors. It made me wonder if there were evil scissors lurking in the house somewhere.
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Mumma Hen
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Mumma Hen
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Posted:
After I had the brain surgery I never thought Id say it but....pain...
After I had the brain surgery I never thought Id say it but....pain...
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old hand
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old hand
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Location: In a test pit, Mackay, Australia
Posted:
Pain, definately, way less crippling that that feeling you're going to throw any second.
Pain, definately, way less crippling that that feeling you're going to throw any second.
There is a slight possibility that I am not actually right all of the time.
HOP Lord of the Pirate Admiralty
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Location: Canterbury, UK
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Location: Canterbury, UK
Posted:
well i actually think i mind either one, im used to both i think...
well i actually think i mind either one, im used to both i think...
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Posted:
Pain, definitely pain! You can use meditative means to concentrate on pain and turn it into 'sweet pain', or to disolve it altogether.
Never managed that with nausea...
Pain, definitely pain! You can use meditative means to concentrate on pain and turn it into 'sweet pain', or to disolve it altogether.
Never managed that with nausea...
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addict
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Location: Lancashire, UK
addict
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Location: Lancashire, UK
Posted:
I'll take the pain too.
Vomiting is one thing, but when that feeling continues when there's nothing but juicey bile left in your stomach, no thanks.
I'll take the pain too.
Vomiting is one thing, but when that feeling continues when there's nothing but juicey bile left in your stomach, no thanks.
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holy man
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Location: Upstate, NY, USA
holy man
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Location: Upstate, NY, USA
Posted:
I guess I would say pain too, except there are some really good meds('specially when you take them with a glass of mead ) But the other thing is with nausea, once you vomit usually it's over.
I guess I would say pain too, except there are some really good meds('specially when you take them with a glass of mead ) But the other thing is with nausea, once you vomit usually it's over.
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Pooh-Bah
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Location: Bristol
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Location: Bristol
Posted:
Well, to go out on a limb here, i'd take nausea. I am chronically anaemic and pass out all the time (preceeded by huge amounts of nausia). I;m quite used to it, but i'm petrified of pain.
Marf. XxX
Well, to go out on a limb here, i'd take nausea. I am chronically anaemic and pass out all the time (preceeded by huge amounts of nausia). I;m quite used to it, but i'm petrified of pain.
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HOP Mad Doctor
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Location: San Francisco, CA, USA
HOP Mad Doctor
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Location: San Francisco, CA, USA
Posted:
Dave,
I've had a couple of classical migraines myself. I remember leaning off my balcony one night having just thrown up thinking that if I just pushed a bit with my feet, I'd fall to my death and the pain would stop.
But once the nausea was gone (having thrown up) it was much more tolerable.
The dilemma we face in dealing with sick patients is that our best pain medicines are opioids, like morphine, oxycodone, hydromorphone, etc. But opioids tend to make people nauseated, especially in some of the higher doses we use.
We can also give anti-nausea drugs, but they make people even more dopey than they already are on the pain drugs. For some reason, the receptors that control nausea also seem to regulate mental status so that it's impossible to make someone less nauseated without gorking them out.
Dave,
I've had a couple of classical migraines myself. I remember leaning off my balcony one night having just thrown up thinking that if I just pushed a bit with my feet, I'd fall to my death and the pain would stop.
But once the nausea was gone (having thrown up) it was much more tolerable.
The dilemma we face in dealing with sick patients is that our best pain medicines are opioids, like morphine, oxycodone, hydromorphone, etc. But opioids tend to make people nauseated, especially in some of the higher doses we use.
We can also give anti-nausea drugs, but they make people even more dopey than they already are on the pain drugs. For some reason, the receptors that control nausea also seem to regulate mental status so that it's impossible to make someone less nauseated without gorking them out.
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
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HOP Lord of the Pirate Admiralty
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Location: Canterbury, UK
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Location: Canterbury, UK
Posted:
oooooo..........
can i have some anti nausea drugs in that case...
oooooo..........
can i have some anti nausea drugs in that case...
D.B.
X x X x X
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Location: Newcastle, Australia
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Location: Newcastle, Australia
Posted:
hhmm.... Think I'll go against the grain here!
After having experienced a hell of a lot of pain in the last few weeks and not being able to take much because I couldnt concentrate on my Uni work, I would definitely choose NAUSEA!!!
I havent ever experienced pain like the last few weeks for me and I'd much rather the nausea cause the pain is still too fresh in my mind..!
hhmm.... Think I'll go against the grain here!
After having experienced a hell of a lot of pain in the last few weeks and not being able to take much because I couldnt concentrate on my Uni work, I would definitely choose NAUSEA!!!
I havent ever experienced pain like the last few weeks for me and I'd much rather the nausea cause the pain is still too fresh in my mind..!
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Posted:
Pain, and this is why
the body and mind can remember the sensation of pain least clearlly of all.
A memory can be positively reinforced by being linked with a pleasurable experience such as a pleasing taste or odour.
Painful sensoria are actively avoided however while accessing memories, thus reducing our ability to recall it.
nausea on the other hand can be encountered all to easily and can be triggered by the slightest of stimuli, a smell, a taste, a nasty looking picture or the feeling of cotton wool against your teeth
These feelings of nausea are more likely to be re triggered by every day stimuli
It's a survival mechanism, the world is a sharp and bumpy place, do you really think that women would go through childbirth if they could clearly remember every single moment of pain with perfect recall?
So, in short, bring on the pain, my body and I know how to deal with it.
[ 11. November 2003, 10:58: Message edited by: squarefish ]
Pain, and this is why
the body and mind can remember the sensation of pain least clearlly of all.
A memory can be positively reinforced by being linked with a pleasurable experience such as a pleasing taste or odour.
Painful sensoria are actively avoided however while accessing memories, thus reducing our ability to recall it.
nausea on the other hand can be encountered all to easily and can be triggered by the slightest of stimuli, a smell, a taste, a nasty looking picture or the feeling of cotton wool against your teeth
These feelings of nausea are more likely to be re triggered by every day stimuli
It's a survival mechanism, the world is a sharp and bumpy place, do you really think that women would go through childbirth if they could clearly remember every single moment of pain with perfect recall?
So, in short, bring on the pain, my body and I know how to deal with it.
[ 11. November 2003, 10:58: Message edited by: squarefish ]
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the henna lady
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Location: WNY, USA
the henna lady
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Posted:
This is a tough one. Nausea I can deal with. If it is pain in the head, then I would rather deal with nausea. If it is chest pain, back pain, etc...I am used to those so I would rather deal with those.
Why is it an either or Mike? I was given medications for both when I was in the hospital with my accident. I was so stressed out that I was really nauseated and because I was on a ventilator with a trach they wanted to avoid me vomiting if possible. I slept hard for a long while after though. And when I was just given the medication for the nausea, I was so loopey I don't remember feeling the pain.
This is a tough one. Nausea I can deal with. If it is pain in the head, then I would rather deal with nausea. If it is chest pain, back pain, etc...I am used to those so I would rather deal with those.
Why is it an either or Mike? I was given medications for both when I was in the hospital with my accident. I was so stressed out that I was really nauseated and because I was on a ventilator with a trach they wanted to avoid me vomiting if possible. I slept hard for a long while after though. And when I was just given the medication for the nausea, I was so loopey I don't remember feeling the pain.
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Location: Warwickshire, United Kingdom
Posted:
having had nausea for the last few days, i'd pick pain. Pain has a threshold, the most painful thing i've felt is stubbing my toes hard. When i did a superman impression off a bike and got carted off in an ambulance after 15 mins of bleeding all over the pavement it didn't hurt nearly as much as toe stubbing. Nausea is just
having had nausea for the last few days, i'd pick pain. Pain has a threshold, the most painful thing i've felt is stubbing my toes hard. When i did a superman impression off a bike and got carted off in an ambulance after 15 mins of bleeding all over the pavement it didn't hurt nearly as much as toe stubbing. Nausea is just
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Keeper of the Spitfire
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Keeper of the Spitfire
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Location: Calgary Canada
Posted:
Hate to jump on the bandwagon here, but got to go with the pain option.
I dealt with lots of this in my life- especially after a big accident i had- and i definitely think the body can cope better with that than nausia.
You can train your body to go through pain, but nausia...uurghhhh! Sorry- can't cope with that one!
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It used to seem to me that my life ran on too fast, and i had to take it slowly just to make the good parts last. But when you're born to run it's so hard to just slow down.
Hate to jump on the bandwagon here, but got to go with the pain option.
I dealt with lots of this in my life- especially after a big accident i had- and i definitely think the body can cope better with that than nausia.
You can train your body to go through pain, but nausia...uurghhhh! Sorry- can't cope with that one!
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Posted:
I really think you do have a nausea threshold, it's just our brain doesn't allocate the same sense of it and general insight about it because we really don't deal with nausea that much compared to pain.
Some people who become sailors say they never stop being motion sick, they just "get used to it"
I really think you do have a nausea threshold, it's just our brain doesn't allocate the same sense of it and general insight about it because we really don't deal with nausea that much compared to pain.
Some people who become sailors say they never stop being motion sick, they just "get used to it"
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Posted:
Go for the pain, just go for the pain.
Go for the pain, just go for the pain.
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Location: UK
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Location: UK
Posted:
I have nausea far more than I have pain and I would have to say I prefer nausea. At least you can throw up and hope it stops.
What a bizarre topic!
I have nausea far more than I have pain and I would have to say I prefer nausea. At least you can throw up and hope it stops.
What a bizarre topic!
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Posted:
I'd have to say Pain - because when my head was being stitched up the nice nurse gave me lots of gas to sort out the pain....
I was just a bit confused as to where the balloon was though
I'd have to say Pain - because when my head was being stitched up the nice nurse gave me lots of gas to sort out the pain....
I was just a bit confused as to where the balloon was though
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Posted:
I would say pain but depends where the pain is. With nausea (well when i have it) i dont feel like eating or doing anything, whereas with pain i can still eat and do things.
I would say pain but depends where the pain is. With nausea (well when i have it) i dont feel like eating or doing anything, whereas with pain i can still eat and do things.
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Posted:
Nausea. You can get it out of you, and you can sleep during it. For some of the worst pain, there's nothing you can do, no sleep, no eating, just lie there and have it with you.
Nausea. You can get it out of you, and you can sleep during it. For some of the worst pain, there's nothing you can do, no sleep, no eating, just lie there and have it with you.
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Location: Austin, Texas, USA
Carpal \'Tunnel
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Location: Austin, Texas, USA
Posted:
well, you can't *always* get nausea out of you. I had a nasty case of salmonella poisoning once that lasted hardcore for about a week before I started to feel human again - you don't even want to hear about that!
Given that experience and the condition that the pain and the nausea last the same amount of time and are in relative strengths to each other, then give me the pain.
well, you can't *always* get nausea out of you. I had a nasty case of salmonella poisoning once that lasted hardcore for about a week before I started to feel human again - you don't even want to hear about that!
Given that experience and the condition that the pain and the nausea last the same amount of time and are in relative strengths to each other, then give me the pain.
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