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Quote:"Dear obese, you're the reason why the rest of the world is starving, you are a burden to health care and the one sitting next to you in an airplane. You should be forced booking two seats in economy.
Quote:"Dear obese, you're the reason why the rest of the world is starving, you are a burden to health care and the one sitting next to you in an airplane. You should be forced booking two seats in economy.
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you're using this quote under a "fair use license"?
EDITED_BY: FireTom (1278760569)
EDIT_REASON: typo
you're using this quote under a "fair use license"?
EDITED_BY: FireTom (1278760569)
EDIT_REASON: typo
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Dear Obese,
I hated being you, and I'm never going back. Goodbye, and good riddance.
Dear Obese,
I hated being you, and I'm never going back. Goodbye, and good riddance.
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Originally Posted By: FireTomyou're using this quote under a "fair use license"?
Educational purposes
Originally Posted By: FireTomyou're using this quote under a "fair use license"?
Educational purposes
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You do realize that their are health conditions that make people obese right? Thyroid and hormonal imbalances, required medications for other health problems with side effects, gluten intolerance, horrible diet because the unhealthy foods are the cheapest and last the longest in the cupboards, not paying attention/correcting poor habits in small children.
Oh a happy note since I found out I'm gluten intolerant/celiac and have rid the substance from my house, detoxed my body as well, I feel worlds better and my weight is dropping finally (I wasn't obese, but too high on the upper end of average for my height for my taste)!
It's sad especially when I see the little kids, but I ask for both the adults and kids have they had the appropriate medical tests, guidance, and the ability to afford access to such or have the time/energy to devote to the lifestyle change and ordinarily I'm think probably not.
You do realize that their are health conditions that make people obese right? Thyroid and hormonal imbalances, required medications for other health problems with side effects, gluten intolerance, horrible diet because the unhealthy foods are the cheapest and last the longest in the cupboards, not paying attention/correcting poor habits in small children.
Oh a happy note since I found out I'm gluten intolerant/celiac and have rid the substance from my house, detoxed my body as well, I feel worlds better and my weight is dropping finally (I wasn't obese, but too high on the upper end of average for my height for my taste)!
It's sad especially when I see the little kids, but I ask for both the adults and kids have they had the appropriate medical tests, guidance, and the ability to afford access to such or have the time/energy to devote to the lifestyle change and ordinarily I'm think probably not.
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In my view, if they take up two seats, they HAVE TO PAY FOR 2 SEATS. Never again! Mainly for one reason. Where is the person next to them going to sit? People complain about having to pay for two because it's descrimination or something, but how is it at all fair to those who are now given no place to sit, or are squished between the window and the seat?
As for the people who are obese because of their habits and not uncontrollable factors, stop complaining and suck it up. Stop eating unhealthy, get off your ass and exercise, and maybe instead of those 3 Big Macs and 7 orders of fries, yes we can hear your order, maybe eat a salad or something. After you change your habits and actually work on loosing weight, and I mean seriously work, than you can complain.
In my view, if they take up two seats, they HAVE TO PAY FOR 2 SEATS. Never again! Mainly for one reason. Where is the person next to them going to sit? People complain about having to pay for two because it's descrimination or something, but how is it at all fair to those who are now given no place to sit, or are squished between the window and the seat?
As for the people who are obese because of their habits and not uncontrollable factors, stop complaining and suck it up. Stop eating unhealthy, get off your ass and exercise, and maybe instead of those 3 Big Macs and 7 orders of fries, yes we can hear your order, maybe eat a salad or something. After you change your habits and actually work on loosing weight, and I mean seriously work, than you can complain.
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Originally Posted By: SpinnerofDetroitIn my view, if they take up two seats, they HAVE TO PAY FOR 2 SEATS. Never again! Mainly for one reason. Where is the person next to them going to sit? People complain about having to pay for two because it's descrimination or something, but how is it at all fair to those who are now given no place to sit, or are squished between the window and the seat?
As a former flight attendant I agree with this for another reason that is a safety concern to passengers and crew. I had to fill out a weight and balance form as a part of preflight and would frequently have to move people to counter act the cargo areas under the fuselage during flights that weren't booked solid.
If they require more than one seat and are double what we counts an adult for that is a HUGE safety issue!!!
I just wanted to make sure we all remember that obesity isn't a choice in all cases, but until a person has tried everything involving self control/regulation of what is consumed and gotten the correct medical evaluations/tests/treatment I don't like judging in favor of "they did it to themselves" because in so many cases it's not that simple.
Originally Posted By: SpinnerofDetroitIn my view, if they take up two seats, they HAVE TO PAY FOR 2 SEATS. Never again! Mainly for one reason. Where is the person next to them going to sit? People complain about having to pay for two because it's descrimination or something, but how is it at all fair to those who are now given no place to sit, or are squished between the window and the seat?
As a former flight attendant I agree with this for another reason that is a safety concern to passengers and crew. I had to fill out a weight and balance form as a part of preflight and would frequently have to move people to counter act the cargo areas under the fuselage during flights that weren't booked solid.
If they require more than one seat and are double what we counts an adult for that is a HUGE safety issue!!!
I just wanted to make sure we all remember that obesity isn't a choice in all cases, but until a person has tried everything involving self control/regulation of what is consumed and gotten the correct medical evaluations/tests/treatment I don't like judging in favor of "they did it to themselves" because in so many cases it's not that simple.
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it's "self preservation" over "self sacrifice", isn't it?
it's "self preservation" over "self sacrifice", isn't it?
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FT "Cargo" is "Cargo" and only the postal service offers flat rate boxes
If a person can't afford to fly because they need 2 seats they can find another mode of transportation where they don't gripe on top of put the safety of flight at risk. It's the price they pay for the circumstance and how they play into it and choose to travel, the airlines are nice enough to offer the secondary ticket not at full price which technically they don't have to do. Flying is a choice and fair is fair, obese people deserve no more special treatment in matters of "personal choice" than anyone else.
FT "Cargo" is "Cargo" and only the postal service offers flat rate boxes
If a person can't afford to fly because they need 2 seats they can find another mode of transportation where they don't gripe on top of put the safety of flight at risk. It's the price they pay for the circumstance and how they play into it and choose to travel, the airlines are nice enough to offer the secondary ticket not at full price which technically they don't have to do. Flying is a choice and fair is fair, obese people deserve no more special treatment in matters of "personal choice" than anyone else.
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Guys please...
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This is just getting stupid now.
This topic gives nothing to the forum but an outlet for people's hate. That is (as it states above) against the rules.
Guys please...
Originally Posted By: THE RULES
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This is just getting stupid now.
This topic gives nothing to the forum but an outlet for people's hate. That is (as it states above) against the rules.
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Seye while a agree with you about the topic I hope stating FAA procedure and practical reasoning I received in training to to gain my certifications has not offended anyone in terms of airline policy.
Please take no offense from my explanation and why in terms of flight safety there is an issue.
Seye while a agree with you about the topic I hope stating FAA procedure and practical reasoning I received in training to to gain my certifications has not offended anyone in terms of airline policy.
Please take no offense from my explanation and why in terms of flight safety there is an issue.
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Originally Posted By: EpitomeOfNoviceSeye while a agree with you about the topic I hope stating FAA procedure and practical reasoning I received in training to to gain my certifications has not offended anyone in terms of airline policy.
Please take no offense from my explanation and why in terms of flight safety there is an issue.
I probably should have exempted you from that last post really.
You made a logically reasoned, evidenced backed argument
Originally Posted By: EpitomeOfNoviceSeye while a agree with you about the topic I hope stating FAA procedure and practical reasoning I received in training to to gain my certifications has not offended anyone in terms of airline policy.
Please take no offense from my explanation and why in terms of flight safety there is an issue.
I probably should have exempted you from that last post really.
You made a logically reasoned, evidenced backed argument
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Do anorexic people get seats at half price?
Do anorexic people get seats at half price?
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Originally Posted By: Refuge CrewDo anorexic people get seats at half price?
For that matter, although not anorexic in the slightest, I'd like a few extra kilos luggage allowance to bring my weight up to that of an average person
(yes, yes, blah blah someone is now going to jump on my back and say that it's not fair that someone slightly bigger than average gets less luggage allowance. Take a lighthearted comment as a light hearted comment, people!)
(dear me, I made a humour disclaimer on HoP. I'm so glad I'm going back to the jungle on Tuesday.)
Originally Posted By: Refuge CrewDo anorexic people get seats at half price?
For that matter, although not anorexic in the slightest, I'd like a few extra kilos luggage allowance to bring my weight up to that of an average person
(yes, yes, blah blah someone is now going to jump on my back and say that it's not fair that someone slightly bigger than average gets less luggage allowance. Take a lighthearted comment as a light hearted comment, people!)
(dear me, I made a humour disclaimer on HoP. I'm so glad I'm going back to the jungle on Tuesday.)
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FUN FACT! FUN FACT! FUN FACT!!!
In terms of weight and balance we count all people under 12 years old at half weight they do get a discounted ticket and we count all small children under 18 months as a carry on and they can travel on their parent's lap for free!
If somehow an anorexic person 80 lbs. or less can pass for 12 or under (at a glance) they can technically get a discount without unbalancing the aircraft...
However someone else would probably have to purchase their ticket and escort them to the gate as their guardian!
FUN FACT! FUN FACT! FUN FACT!!!
In terms of weight and balance we count all people under 12 years old at half weight they do get a discounted ticket and we count all small children under 18 months as a carry on and they can travel on their parent's lap for free!
If somehow an anorexic person 80 lbs. or less can pass for 12 or under (at a glance) they can technically get a discount without unbalancing the aircraft...
However someone else would probably have to purchase their ticket and escort them to the gate as their guardian!
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What about mid... small people?
How many do you think pass for under 12 and get discounts? This is actually a serious question
What about mid... small people?
How many do you think pass for under 12 and get discounts? This is actually a serious question The only luck is bad luck.
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SoD, ask a gate agent or customer service!
SoD, ask a gate agent or customer service!
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What I am wondering is how Airlines come up with the magical number. What factors do they consider? I think that if airlines were going to charge someone for their size, certainly they should start asking for your measurements when purchasing.
What about body builders?
What about people that have to have special considerations? Surely some obese people have those, if it's not their fault and have an underlying condition, it becomes discrimination at that point and in the US, the airline can be sued under the Americans with Disabilities Act.
As for others that are large, I will agree that you should take responsibility for it, but how do we sort out one from the other?
I was 66kilos(145lbs) at one time then the on the go lifestyle hit me and quick meals and exhaustion led to serious weight gain(I also believe there is something very wrong with the US food supply). Last year, I topped out at 155kilos(335lbs) and realised it was destroying every aspect of my life, my relationship, my health, my emotional health and so on. I dropped over 45kilos(100lbs) in a year by just the smallest of changes without expensive foods or surgery. I believe that any healthy person is just making excuses if they continue to stay large.
Any trainer, athlete, or nutritionist will tell you about plateaus. There is a point when you hit the wall and progress is slow. Sometimes to break it, believe it or not, you have to eat things like cheesecake and burgers, sometimes it's a salad.
I ask now, what about those that are in the process of changing? Is it encouraging for them to be double charged? A lot of people don't understand that loosing weight isn't just a matter of cutting out the burger and fries.
I also ask, has anyone considered what someone obese must feel about themselves? Maybe, find that person in your life that is obese and say, "come on a walk with us", instead of, "you are so fat get off your bum and do something". Having positive support is a big thing for a lot of people. It's easier for someone obese to feel confident walking around in public spaces with someone, than without them. It's more encouraging to someone obese to believe that you want them to come out and enjoy life, despite their size, instead of saying your too fat so I shun you.
What I am wondering is how Airlines come up with the magical number. What factors do they consider? I think that if airlines were going to charge someone for their size, certainly they should start asking for your measurements when purchasing.
What about body builders?
What about people that have to have special considerations? Surely some obese people have those, if it's not their fault and have an underlying condition, it becomes discrimination at that point and in the US, the airline can be sued under the Americans with Disabilities Act.
As for others that are large, I will agree that you should take responsibility for it, but how do we sort out one from the other?
I was 66kilos(145lbs) at one time then the on the go lifestyle hit me and quick meals and exhaustion led to serious weight gain(I also believe there is something very wrong with the US food supply). Last year, I topped out at 155kilos(335lbs) and realised it was destroying every aspect of my life, my relationship, my health, my emotional health and so on. I dropped over 45kilos(100lbs) in a year by just the smallest of changes without expensive foods or surgery. I believe that any healthy person is just making excuses if they continue to stay large.
Any trainer, athlete, or nutritionist will tell you about plateaus. There is a point when you hit the wall and progress is slow. Sometimes to break it, believe it or not, you have to eat things like cheesecake and burgers, sometimes it's a salad.
I ask now, what about those that are in the process of changing? Is it encouraging for them to be double charged? A lot of people don't understand that loosing weight isn't just a matter of cutting out the burger and fries.
I also ask, has anyone considered what someone obese must feel about themselves? Maybe, find that person in your life that is obese and say, "come on a walk with us", instead of, "you are so fat get off your bum and do something". Having positive support is a big thing for a lot of people. It's easier for someone obese to feel confident walking around in public spaces with someone, than without them. It's more encouraging to someone obese to believe that you want them to come out and enjoy life, despite their size, instead of saying your too fat so I shun you.
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I made this topic up as a joke really,
BUt to make my observations,
Just like EoN and the planes, I too have to descriminate in my job on the weighted;
Im sorry but if your that big you just wont fit into any kayak. Or into a wetsuit. sorry the harnesses are only ratesd to 120kg, and you cant use the flying fox. The waist belt on your backpack wont fit? oh Im sorry you will just have to deal.
It sucks so bad because these kids are teased enough as it is, I know that there are medical reasons but chances are its habit and lifestyle. when you see an obese kid, their parants are obese too. And this angers me sooo much. DO these parents realise the impact they are making?
I watched a Jamie oliver show when he goes to a us school and holds up a tomato and asks the kids to tell him what it was. THe best guess they could come up with was a potato, I mean WTF?
I made this topic up as a joke really,
BUt to make my observations,
Just like EoN and the planes, I too have to descriminate in my job on the weighted;
Im sorry but if your that big you just wont fit into any kayak. Or into a wetsuit. sorry the harnesses are only ratesd to 120kg, and you cant use the flying fox. The waist belt on your backpack wont fit? oh Im sorry you will just have to deal.
It sucks so bad because these kids are teased enough as it is, I know that there are medical reasons but chances are its habit and lifestyle. when you see an obese kid, their parants are obese too. And this angers me sooo much. DO these parents realise the impact they are making?
I watched a Jamie oliver show when he goes to a us school and holds up a tomato and asks the kids to tell him what it was. THe best guess they could come up with was a potato, I mean WTF?
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A vivid memory that comes to mind whenever I hear conversations like the one right here goes like this:
Back when I played Soccer (Football), we were doing a 5K run/walk sponsored by a local Gym, as one of our teammates was diagnosed with a form of Leukemia before the season had started. We walked as a team, with all of us wearing our practice T-shirts. On the back of these it says in large black print "Believe and Achieve". About halfway through, I was walking next to my good friend, moseying along, as we had a game later in the day. Behind us there was an overweight woman running...sort of, since it was slower than our walk. She said to us, very out of breath. "you boys keep in front of me, seeing that "Believe and Achieve" for most of this race has been great".
This gives me hope for obesity problems. If more people become aware of the problem, and the solution, that, Surprise! does take some effort that as a world we can become healthier.
A lot of people these days have little to no self control, and that's slightly dissappointing...
A vivid memory that comes to mind whenever I hear conversations like the one right here goes like this:
Back when I played Soccer (Football), we were doing a 5K run/walk sponsored by a local Gym, as one of our teammates was diagnosed with a form of Leukemia before the season had started. We walked as a team, with all of us wearing our practice T-shirts. On the back of these it says in large black print "Believe and Achieve". About halfway through, I was walking next to my good friend, moseying along, as we had a game later in the day. Behind us there was an overweight woman running...sort of, since it was slower than our walk. She said to us, very out of breath. "you boys keep in front of me, seeing that "Believe and Achieve" for most of this race has been great".
This gives me hope for obesity problems. If more people become aware of the problem, and the solution, that, Surprise! does take some effort that as a world we can become healthier.
A lot of people these days have little to no self control, and that's slightly dissappointing...
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@Refuge The problem is, no matter what their reason for being fat is, whether they be retaining water, or a medication they take, or..., just whatever. It is a matter of space and weight on the plane that can be a safety issue. And if they happen to take up two seats, than it is only fair an justice that they pay for both of those seats. The most they could do is if your waist size is over whatever, than you must purchase 2 seats, but maybe at a lower price or something. If they did that, than that rule would probably be enforced.
@Refuge The problem is, no matter what their reason for being fat is, whether they be retaining water, or a medication they take, or..., just whatever. It is a matter of space and weight on the plane that can be a safety issue. And if they happen to take up two seats, than it is only fair an justice that they pay for both of those seats. The most they could do is if your waist size is over whatever, than you must purchase 2 seats, but maybe at a lower price or something. If they did that, than that rule would probably be enforced.
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Chat = Daftness
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*cough* - is being a hippie a choice or genetically predispositioned?
I mean hey - I'm going to a festival and I see a kid, age 6 with dreadlocks and I look at the parent and I think to my self "guys wtf are you doing with that kid? It will grow up, giving green lectures to ravers..."
Chat = Daftness
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*cough* - is being a hippie a choice or genetically predispositioned?
I mean hey - I'm going to a festival and I see a kid, age 6 with dreadlocks and I look at the parent and I think to my self "guys wtf are you doing with that kid? It will grow up, giving green lectures to ravers..."
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Yes, in my opinion anything in social chat can be complete random daftness without any point whatsoever
Yes, in my opinion anything in social chat can be complete random daftness without any point whatsoever
The only luck is bad luck.
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OH MY GOD!!! LOOK AT HER STOMACH HANGING OUT OF HER DRESS! That's the most ridiculous fat person pis I've ever seen!
OH MY GOD!!! LOOK AT HER STOMACH HANGING OUT OF HER DRESS! That's the most ridiculous fat person pis I've ever seen!
The only luck is bad luck.
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Oh god, what a convenient time for this thread...
I am currently writing an essay for our ridiculous "growing as a person" unit on the topic...
"Debate the ethical issues about whether childhood morbid obesity (attributed to be caused by diet and lack of exercise in the family), should be a child protection issue? "
Should parents that allow their children to become morbidly obese be charged/have the children taken from them? Difficult question! Can parents of anorexic children be charged?
From a health professionals perspective... yes, there are conditions that can make losing weight DIFFICULT but never impossible.
People who NEED a lap band to lose weight aren't trying hard enough. The only thing a lap band does is makes your stomach smaller so you throw up if you eat more than a cup of food. So really, it just enforces your diet. It makes up for your lack of will power by removing your choice to eat larger portions.
People can still gain weight after lap banding.. These are the people who "still felt hungry" so they pureed their food to get passed the lap band... *facepalm*
I'm on upper GI surgery for the next 10 weeks so all I'll be doing is lap bands and removing gall bladders.
As a tiny person, I completely agree that I should have more airport baggage, and that my clothes should be cheaper as they use less fabric! I don't see how the latter is discrimination. If you want more of something, you have to pay for it.
Oh god, what a convenient time for this thread...
I am currently writing an essay for our ridiculous "growing as a person" unit on the topic...
"Debate the ethical issues about whether childhood morbid obesity (attributed to be caused by diet and lack of exercise in the family), should be a child protection issue? "
Should parents that allow their children to become morbidly obese be charged/have the children taken from them? Difficult question! Can parents of anorexic children be charged?
From a health professionals perspective... yes, there are conditions that can make losing weight DIFFICULT but never impossible.
People who NEED a lap band to lose weight aren't trying hard enough. The only thing a lap band does is makes your stomach smaller so you throw up if you eat more than a cup of food. So really, it just enforces your diet. It makes up for your lack of will power by removing your choice to eat larger portions.
People can still gain weight after lap banding.. These are the people who "still felt hungry" so they pureed their food to get passed the lap band... *facepalm*
I'm on upper GI surgery for the next 10 weeks so all I'll be doing is lap bands and removing gall bladders.
As a tiny person, I completely agree that I should have more airport baggage, and that my clothes should be cheaper as they use less fabric! I don't see how the latter is discrimination. If you want more of something, you have to pay for it.
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Originally Posted By: natasqi
Should parents that allow their children to become morbidly obese be charged/have the children taken from them? Difficult question!
yes.
Not for the anorexia as I perceive that more a condition brought on by the child, whereas an obese child has huge amounts to do with the parents.
Originally Posted By: natasqi
Should parents that allow their children to become morbidly obese be charged/have the children taken from them? Difficult question!
yes.
Not for the anorexia as I perceive that more a condition brought on by the child, whereas an obese child has huge amounts to do with the parents.
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Originally Posted By: WoodlandApple
yes.
Not for the anorexia as I perceive that more a condition brought on by the child, whereas an obese child has huge amounts to do with the parents.
Agreed. Anorexia is a mental disorder, brought on by distorted self images, and a lot of those can be blamed on certain aspects of society..
Originally Posted By: WoodlandApple
yes.
Not for the anorexia as I perceive that more a condition brought on by the child, whereas an obese child has huge amounts to do with the parents.
Agreed. Anorexia is a mental disorder, brought on by distorted self images, and a lot of those can be blamed on certain aspects of society..
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My cousin had anorexia and it was not because of a distorted self image. It was because of his abusive father at the time. He abused his mother so much that he couldn't bare to east and he hid it under baggy clothes for an extremely long time. One of the problems was that his body kind of "adjusted" somewhere and for a long time he couldn't eat anything without throwing it up.
When something like that happens I believe the cause should be charged because a situation like that, it is cause by a parent.
And I'm not sure how he gained his eating abilities back, but he himself is actually overweight. He's not obese, but pretty highly overweight.
My cousin had anorexia and it was not because of a distorted self image. It was because of his abusive father at the time. He abused his mother so much that he couldn't bare to east and he hid it under baggy clothes for an extremely long time. One of the problems was that his body kind of "adjusted" somewhere and for a long time he couldn't eat anything without throwing it up.
When something like that happens I believe the cause should be charged because a situation like that, it is cause by a parent.
And I'm not sure how he gained his eating abilities back, but he himself is actually overweight. He's not obese, but pretty highly overweight.
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Originally Posted By: Microwe[quote=WoodlandApple]
Agreed. Anorexia is a mental disorder, brought on by distorted self images, and a lot of those can be blamed on certain aspects of society..
like the threat of locking your parents away, or being taken away from them if they are fat?
Originally Posted By: Microwe[quote=WoodlandApple]
Agreed. Anorexia is a mental disorder, brought on by distorted self images, and a lot of those can be blamed on certain aspects of society..
like the threat of locking your parents away, or being taken away from them if they are fat?
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Originally Posted By: SpinnerofDetroitMy cousin had anorexia and it was not because of a distorted self image. It was because of his abusive father at the time.
Self image is not just about whether you look fat in jeans, it is how you percieve yourself. In this case, while the father sounds like a jerk, self hurt (in this case in the form of an eating disorder) is still a 'self image' problem.
The father should go to jail for wailing on his wife, not because his son self harms.
Originally Posted By: SpinnerofDetroitMy cousin had anorexia and it was not because of a distorted self image. It was because of his abusive father at the time.
Self image is not just about whether you look fat in jeans, it is how you percieve yourself. In this case, while the father sounds like a jerk, self hurt (in this case in the form of an eating disorder) is still a 'self image' problem.
The father should go to jail for wailing on his wife, not because his son self harms.
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