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I've been busy designing recently and I'm happy to report I've made some serious progress! I've very nearly got the final prototype board fleshed out and a design I reckon ought to work very well for the casing.
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I'll send off for the first set of prototype boards some time next week (still needs some tweaking and double-checking). I need to investigate a few more companies to find someone to make my polycarbonate balls. Just need to get the software up to scratch now. As it stands you'd need to have some special hardware to add new light sequences etc. into them... once I've got my head around a few things, you'll just be able to plug your hyperlights into a USB socket, fire up your software and tell them what you want!
Watch this space
I've been busy designing recently and I'm happy to report I've made some serious progress! I've very nearly got the final prototype board fleshed out and a design I reckon ought to work very well for the casing.
Non-Https Image Link
Non-Https Image Link
I'll send off for the first set of prototype boards some time next week (still needs some tweaking and double-checking). I need to investigate a few more companies to find someone to make my polycarbonate balls. Just need to get the software up to scratch now. As it stands you'd need to have some special hardware to add new light sequences etc. into them... once I've got my head around a few things, you'll just be able to plug your hyperlights into a USB socket, fire up your software and tell them what you want!
Watch this space
Cake or Death?
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old hand
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Posted:
I don't think the new housings will be ready in time, but I should have the new prototype hardware (the circuits) by then... the PCBs should arrive here in a day or two so then it's just a question of whether
a) I can get hold of all the components I need in time
b) Populate the boards in time
c) They actually work first go! (yeah right
)
I'm hoping they'll be nearly indestructable so you shouldn't need to worry too much about bashing them about.
I still have a couple of neat tricks that I've not revealed about them, but I'm saving those for when the final versions are ready for people to buy
I don't think the new housings will be ready in time, but I should have the new prototype hardware (the circuits) by then... the PCBs should arrive here in a day or two so then it's just a question of whether
a) I can get hold of all the components I need in time
b) Populate the boards in time
c) They actually work first go! (yeah right
)I'm hoping they'll be nearly indestructable so you shouldn't need to worry too much about bashing them about.
I still have a couple of neat tricks that I've not revealed about them, but I'm saving those for when the final versions are ready for people to buy
Cake or Death?
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email play.com and ask if you could stock them with them. im sure once the idea of poi took off they would sell like hotcakes. (anyone remember powerball) -top seller on play.com for ages
email play.com and ask if you could stock them with them. im sure once the idea of poi took off they would sell like hotcakes. (anyone remember powerball) -top seller on play.com for ages
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old hand
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Posted:
They're no where near ready for general consumption but I'll certainly bear that in mind when they are!
They're no where near ready for general consumption but I'll certainly bear that in mind when they are!
Cake or Death?
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Did yo mean to write playfestival.co.uk? I'm sure thats what geeza was talking about
Did yo mean to write playfestival.co.uk? I'm sure thats what geeza was talking about
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old hand
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They don't look particularly shameless to me *shrug*
They don't look particularly shameless to me *shrug*
Cake or Death?
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They don't look particularly shameful to me *shrug*
They don't look particularly shameful to me *shrug*
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Posted:
whoopwhoopwhoop they look sexy!!!!! i officially CANT WAIT!!!!
whoopwhoopwhoop they look sexy!!!!! i officially CANT WAIT!!!!
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The plugs?
That's a strange fetish you have there.
The plugs?
That's a strange fetish you have there.
But there's no sense crying over every mistake. You just keep on trying till you run out of cake.
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old hand
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At the risk of getting this thread back on topic... Ouch, I just spent ~£200 on the bits to make 2 pairs of the mark 3 prototypes!!! It's so expensive when you do small orders... that and forgetting to add the processors for the things so you end up paying twice as much postage
...still, it should all be here in a couple of days which means there's actually a chance I'll have two new pairs of hyperlights ready for PLAY
At the risk of getting this thread back on topic... Ouch, I just spent ~£200 on the bits to make 2 pairs of the mark 3 prototypes!!! It's so expensive when you do small orders... that and forgetting to add the processors for the things so you end up paying twice as much postage
...still, it should all be here in a couple of days which means there's actually a chance I'll have two new pairs of hyperlights ready for PLAY
Cake or Death?
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i'll be a prototype tester if you want. Been using poi for 3 weeks or so, so im still at beginner level really, so all round good for being a tester!
Written by: *HyperLight
...still, it should all be here in a couple of days which means there's actually a chance I'll have two new
pairs of hyperlights ready for PLAY
i'll be a prototype tester if you want. Been using poi for 3 weeks or so, so im still at beginner level really, so all round good for being a tester!
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Posted:
i had a play with them at fally 5, loved them, but was too scared to do anything to techy or what nots incase i smashed them and then had to crawl around in the sand looking for parts saying how sorry i was. cant wait to see them again at play.
i had a play with them at fally 5, loved them, but was too scared to do anything to techy or what nots incase i smashed them and then had to crawl around in the sand looking for parts saying how sorry i was. cant wait to see them again at play.
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Glad you enjoyed them nick... hopefully the things I have for play will be a bit more robust than the last lot of prototypes (time will tell!).
I just realised that it takes ~9 days for stuff to get from HoP to my house so I may have to re-think my idea of canabulising the LED poi I bought. Anyone got any suggestions for (preferably clear) ~6cm balls into which I can squeeze the new prototypes? The really need to be dismantleable as well so that batteries can be changed and new programs added to them... oh, and they need to be ready for PLAY
Glad you enjoyed them nick... hopefully the things I have for play will be a bit more robust than the last lot of prototypes (time will tell!).
I just realised that it takes ~9 days for stuff to get from HoP to my house so I may have to re-think my idea of canabulising the LED poi I bought. Anyone got any suggestions for (preferably clear) ~6cm balls into which I can squeeze the new prototypes? The really need to be dismantleable as well so that batteries can be changed and new programs added to them... oh, and they need to be ready for PLAY
Cake or Death?
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Posted:
Jo gave me some boing balls for christmas...I've not really used them as one of them broke
but I could send you them for you to use (I'd want them back, in a working order, but they just screw apart)
https://www.loadsmorestuff.com/popup_image.php?pID=971
Jo gave me some boing balls for christmas...I've not really used them as one of them broke
but I could send you them for you to use (I'd want them back, in a working order, but they just screw apart)https://www.loadsmorestuff.com/popup_image.php?pID=971
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old hand
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Never mind, i returned home to find a package waiting on my bed ...now I just need the boards to arrive and the components to populate them!
Thanks for the offer though
Never mind, i returned home to find a package waiting on my bed
...now I just need the boards to arrive and the components to populate them!Thanks for the offer though
Cake or Death?
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Posted:
Good luck constructing, Jon!
Good luck constructing, Jon!
"Don’t know how long, this one’s gonna take;
I could fail, but I’d rather be a fuckup, than a fake"
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Posted:
but but...they're just so sexy!! 3 things going into 3 holes!! its like pron but better!
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The plugs?
That's a strange fetish you have there.
but but...they're just so sexy!! 3 things going into 3 holes!! its like pron but better!
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/mini rant on behalf of Hyperlight/
Please people, stop asking to be testers!
Im sure Mr. Hyperlight has already told the people who he wants to be testers, and he doesnt need anyone else!
Just becuase you want to have a pair of these sexy new toys before the vast majority of eveyone else, it doesnt mean you will get them simply becuase you offered to "help" test them.
then again, I may be utterly and hopelessly wrong, in which case I apologise now
/mini rant on behalf of Hyperlight/
Please people, stop asking to be testers!
Im sure Mr. Hyperlight has already told the people who he wants to be testers, and he doesnt need anyone else!
Just becuase you want to have a pair of these sexy new toys before the vast majority of eveyone else, it doesnt mean you will get them simply becuase you offered to "help" test them.
then again, I may be utterly and hopelessly wrong, in which case I apologise now
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as much as I liked the look of mr hyperlights poi...
Hyperlight... any chance you'll develop your idea into staff form as my poi... well.... sucks and they are pretty.
otherwise i will think take a basic electronic and machining course to see if i can make one
as much as I liked the look of mr hyperlights poi...
Hyperlight... any chance you'll develop your idea into staff form
as my poi... well.... sucks and they are pretty. otherwise i will think take a basic electronic and machining course to see if i can make one
A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.
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old hand
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Thanks for the rant UCOF... I've had more offers to help test hyperlights than I can count (even using fingers and toes!) ...and I'm grateful for every one of them! I still like people asking - it's good to know people are still interested
I've just had a load of deliveries of components and should have the new boards by the end of today. So it's looking like I might actually have some new stuff to show off at PLAY! If that pans out, I'll be handing them to as many people as I can for another round of feedback. I'll then put the suggestions I agree with into the next prototype (probably the last one!)... and get ~10 pairs of hyperlights built. I have a list I've been cultivating of people I'd like to sell those first 10 to (at cost price in return for some feedback on what they like / dislike about them etc). Once we've ironed out any initial problems I'll be ina position where I can seriously consider selling HyperLights to the masses
As for staffs, I already have some designs for a HyperStaff in the pipeline. I'm also thinking about making HyperDiablo, HyperDevilsticks and HyperHoops
Thanks for the rant UCOF... I've had more offers to help test hyperlights than I can count (even using fingers and toes!) ...and I'm grateful for every one of them! I still like people asking - it's good to know people are still interested
I've just had a load of deliveries of components and should have the new boards by the end of today. So it's looking like I might actually have some new stuff to show off at PLAY! If that pans out, I'll be handing them to as many people as I can for another round of feedback. I'll then put the suggestions I agree with into the next prototype (probably the last one!)... and get ~10 pairs of hyperlights built. I have a list I've been cultivating of people I'd like to sell those first 10 to (at cost price in return for some feedback on what they like / dislike about them etc). Once we've ironed out any initial problems I'll be ina position where I can seriously consider selling HyperLights to the masses
As for staffs, I already have some designs for a HyperStaff in the pipeline. I'm also thinking about making HyperDiablo, HyperDevilsticks and HyperHoops
Cake or Death?
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Hyperhoops?!?!
Want someone to test them? --> <--
Hyperhoops?!?!
Want someone to test them? -->
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old hand
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Lol, you're already on my 'list of people to supply one of the first round of public prototypes to' (a bit of a long-winded name I know, but I think it says it all).... so don't be greedy
I just got a very exciting parcel delivered - four mark 3 prototype boards!!! There's going to be some furious soldering efforts over the next day or two
Lol, you're already on my 'list of people to supply one of the first round of public prototypes to' (a bit of a long-winded name I know, but I think it says it all
).... so don't be greedy I just got a very exciting parcel delivered - four mark 3 prototype boards!!! There's going to be some furious soldering efforts over the next day or two
Cake or Death?
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as again, count me in for a tester! what batteries will they take again? and what life
as again, count me in for a tester! what batteries will they take again? and what life
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old hand
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old hand
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Posted:
They run off 2xAAA's... the time they run for depends on which patterns you're running. I've not tested all that thoroughly but I would guess upwards of an hour from 900mAH batteries.
They run off 2xAAA's... the time they run for depends on which patterns you're running. I've not tested all that thoroughly but I would guess upwards of an hour from 900mAH batteries.
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Ooh - Mr Hyperlight. Can I please put my name down to be the first tester for a hyperdevilstick please
You'd have no competition with devilsticks as even the Aerotech's are not perfect.
Ooh - Mr Hyperlight. Can I please put my name down to be the first tester for a hyperdevilstick please
You'd have no competition with devilsticks as even the Aerotech's are not perfect.
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sounds quite good. id just get some rechargable ones like uniross or something. Try and make them as light as possible, i dont fancy a 200gram weight hitting my spuds! 60 or 70 grams would be perfect (ie tennis ball weight)
sounds quite good. id just get some rechargable ones like uniross or something. Try and make them as light as possible, i dont fancy a 200gram weight hitting my spuds! 60 or 70 grams would be perfect (ie tennis ball weight)
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That's assuming I get it right of course!
As for volunteers, I've been thinking a bit about this recently. I've got ~5 people who I've already decided I'm getting a pair to because either; They're helped me massively in getting to where I am now, or I think they're really inspirational spinners and would really love to see them spinning my toys.
I'm planning on building 10 sets of the next versions which leaves 5 to distribute. So I'm thinking either I'll have a competition or a vote or something with nominations for who should have a pair (could lead to a bit of a popularity contest though)... or maybe give a pair to a few big juggling clubs so lots of people get to play with them. I'd be interested to hear what people think about how I should choose who to give 'em out to
Written by: Seye
You'd have no competition with devilsticks as even the Aerotechs are not perfect.
That's assuming I get it right of course!
As for volunteers, I've been thinking a bit about this recently. I've got ~5 people who I've already decided I'm getting a pair to because either; They're helped me massively in getting to where I am now, or I think they're really inspirational spinners and would really love to see them spinning my toys.
I'm planning on building 10 sets of the next versions which leaves 5 to distribute. So I'm thinking either I'll have a competition or a vote or something with nominations for who should have a pair (could lead to a bit of a popularity contest though
)... or maybe give a pair to a few big juggling clubs so lots of people get to play with them. I'd be interested to hear what people think about how I should choose who to give 'em out to Cake or Death?
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old hand
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They will definitely be less than 200g... I've started to think they might actually end up being too light! I've made provisions so that more weight can be added easily though
Written by: geeza
sounds quite good. id just get some rechargable ones like uniross or something. Try and make them as light as possible, i dont fancy a 200gram weight hitting my spuds! 60 or 70 grams would be perfect (ie tennis ball weight)
They will definitely be less than 200g... I've started to think they might actually end up being too light! I've made provisions so that more weight can be added easily though
Cake or Death?
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Muchos Exite-A-Mundo
Muchos Exite-A-Mundo
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