Forums > Technical Discussion > hyperloops with chains

Posted: 8th Feb 2005
they're good with my chains, I use welded oval link chains and ball chains, I'd suggest practicing with your chains until it feels comfortable...

Posted: 8th Feb 2005
i've been practicing with them for a long time but still cant do hl comfortably. think i will exchange my chains.
which chain is better for hl - welded oval link chains or ball ones?

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Posted: 8th Feb 2005
ball chain is better for about everything in the world wraps, hyperloops, and pretty much anything else - just remember it is weaker and needs to be watched and occasionally replaced.

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Posted: 8th Feb 2005
I've tried them both and would say ball chains are slightly easier for hyperloops than twisted oval links. Flat links are quite a bit more difficult to hyperloop with because they bind up and wrap around each other in funny ways. If you have practice poi with strings, hyperloops are pretty easy to pull off but when they tangle you get a nasty knot.

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Posted: 9th Feb 2005
Yes, ball chain is the way to go.

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Posted: 9th Feb 2005
Sock poi are the best for learning hyper loops. Put some heavy sandbags in two large soccer socks and I've never gone back. Everything moves so much slower ^.^' and with so much more weight it's easy to keep things going slowly.

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Posted: 9th Feb 2005
i am using sock poi too. i learnt hyperloops with them but i started practising them with fire chains. thanx a lot for advice guys. i decided to buy ball chains...

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Posted: 9th Feb 2005
ball chains are nice also if you want to try something else try chords.....however they do mess up sometimes from doing hyperloops, and my personal preference is definatly ball chains...like vanize said they're simplay better for everything in the world of poi

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Posted: 10th Feb 2005
My personal favourite chord to spin with is D minor.

Posted: 10th Feb 2005
It's all about Bdim. All the way.

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Posted: 10th Feb 2005
Diminutive.

Im impressed.

I havent heard that word since my prep school music lessons

Posted: 10th Feb 2005
Ha, wrong Diminished I created my own music theory based around not knowing any music theory. I call it guitar

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Posted: 11th Feb 2005
dude, that's how most guitar is, find a chord you like, find another one you like, and somehow fit them together

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Posted: 11th Feb 2005
Or not, as the case may be/is

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Posted: 16th Feb 2005
I use dog choker chains. They don't break like ball chain will... and they will. I'm a minimalist maintenance person, so it was the best for me.

And you can learn the move with whatever you want. Socks are the easiest for hyperloop learning (and most forgiving) but I honestly think your not doing yourself any favors learning with them. It may help you learn the basic muscle movements, but when you transfer that to a fire poi set, things change... a little. But socks do have their usefulness for beginners.

Hyperloops can be done with anything you want. It's just a matter of learning the querks of the specific medium you chose to use for the "body" of th poi (Pulling terms from Spherculism here...). Some may argue that the odd shape of choker chain makes it more difficult. I agree, but once you can do the move with something as weird and unforgiving as it, you can do them with anything.

Learn the basics with socks. Apply to something rediculously hard until you master it there and you will be able to do it with anything. I strongly disagree with ANYONE who says that ball chain is the way to go. Too much of a risk of a head flying off mid performance, especially if you have any hard style spinning in your routines (Really fast, lots of power). Ball chain is just vastly inadequate. For me anyway, speeking from the point of view of someone who seems to destroy whatever I'm spinning with on a fairly regular basis. Especially when airwraps are involved. I tend to snap ballchain on REGULAR wraps, airwraps add a substantial amount of stress to the contact point and will snap ball chain very easily after a very short amount of time.

I do however agree with what everyone else is saying: find what feels right to YOU. Experiment. These are MY findings with ball chain, and I'm sure many people disagree with me who use it all the time.

Posted: 16th Feb 2005
i think i should try more kinds of chains and decide then which one will be the best. thanx for ur opinion i8beefy2 ....

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Posted: 17th Feb 2005
I use some stuff from B&Q called 'safety chain' - metal links folded over and sort of platted together. I've been using a set for fire poi for over a year now and they still look as strong as the day I bought them. I generally spin with at least 2 heads on each chain too! That's what I'd recommend

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Posted: 17th Feb 2005
do u have any pic of this chain pls.? i'd like to see it...

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Posted: 18th Feb 2005
You can see it in this photo..

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Posted: 18th Feb 2005

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My personal favourite chord to spin with is D minor.

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You should try b minor, it gets the universe shaking a bit more

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