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yes folks, its a whole lotta fun.
its not backwards weave, its 'reverse', against the grain.
it goes a little something like this.
poi spin forwards wheel plane,
right poi crosses to underneith left arm.
then they swap positions so the the right arm is ontop, (the difficult bit)
then the left poi crosses the body underneith the right (the difficult bit)
the the right poi comes across, and then round under the left to start the motion again
bassically its a weave, but the hand positions are upside down.
youll find you kneed to seperate them to do this and that also theres a bit of thread the kneedle going on, as if you try this both on the same plane you get a hyperloop.
this goes onto the other possibility of 'reverse' weave, which is what i call 'cooking the loop'
when you hyperloop you can use the 'reverse' weave motion to twist it up on the hand side of the hyperloop while its twisting outside also. transition this and you should get lots of beat of unwinding, even more if you keep going with the 'reverse' motion.
im thinking that 'reverse' is a bad name mybe, but hey *shrug*
almost everyhting else can be done reverse too, go have a look....
prizes for the first person to cleanly make a backwads butterfly go from front to btb to bth.
T
yes folks, its a whole lotta fun.
its not backwards weave, its 'reverse', against the grain.
it goes a little something like this.
poi spin forwards wheel plane,
right poi crosses to underneith left arm.
then they swap positions so the the right arm is ontop, (the difficult bit)
then the left poi crosses the body underneith the right (the difficult bit)
the the right poi comes across, and then round under the left to start the motion again
bassically its a weave, but the hand positions are upside down.
youll find you kneed to seperate them to do this and that also theres a bit of thread the kneedle going on, as if you try this both on the same plane you get a hyperloop.
this goes onto the other possibility of 'reverse' weave, which is what i call 'cooking the loop'
when you hyperloop you can use the 'reverse' weave motion to twist it up on the hand side of the hyperloop while its twisting outside also. transition this and you should get lots of beat of unwinding, even more if you keep going with the 'reverse' motion.
im thinking that 'reverse' is a bad name mybe, but hey *shrug*
almost everyhting else can be done reverse too, go have a look....
prizes for the first person to cleanly make a backwads butterfly go from front to btb to bth.
T
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Posted:
oooo....
that sounds like fun.
nice clear description too
ill try this in a moment and find out how hard it is, no doubt, but we will see.
oooo....
that sounds like fun.
nice clear description too
ill try this in a moment and find out how hard it is, no doubt, but we will see.
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Posted:
How about "inverse weave"
This is interesting, also playing around with this, I'm seeing a wall plane ttn like move with both poi spinning in the same direction, should be fairly easy in normal time, it would just cross over on half beats at the top and bottom of the circle.
How about "inverse weave"
This is interesting, also playing around with this, I'm seeing a wall plane ttn like move with both poi spinning in the same direction, should be fairly easy in normal time, it would just cross over on half beats at the top and bottom of the circle.
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yup.
the ttn thing is totally right, but inverse weave has already been taken, sorry (another name for a buzzsaw weave, lookitup
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T
yup.
the ttn thing is totally right, but inverse weave has already been taken, sorry (another name for a buzzsaw weave, lookitup
)T
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Heh, must have missed that one. But hey thats why I have a thesaurus. If you are still unsatisfied with "reverse weave" how about inverted, transposed, or transplaced weave
Anyway, off to play....
Heh, must have missed that one. But hey thats why I have a thesaurus. If you are still unsatisfied with "reverse weave" how about inverted, transposed, or transplaced weave
Anyway, off to play....
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How about the "Broken Weave" since youre no longer actually weaving.
Also, a question. Does this move take place in a single circle like a normal weave or are they actually seperated?
How about the "Broken Weave" since youre no longer actually weaving.
Also, a question. Does this move take place in a single circle like a normal weave or are they actually seperated?
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Oh, and do I get any prizes for being able to get reverse butterfly from BTB to BTH with only 1 poi? If not, Im sure Ill get both hands in like 5 mins
Oh, and do I get any prizes for being able to get reverse butterfly from BTB to BTH with only 1 poi?
If not, Im sure Ill get both hands in like 5 mins Let's turn those old bridges we crossed into ashes.
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no, they sort of seperate, infact the line up paralell for a minute when they cross. I think maybe you can get them together, but the jury is out on how.
no icon, not for 1 hand, and you have to be able to do it with the btb portion pointing stright back, not with the hand out sideways, thats cheating!
'ultimate contortionist' prizes for reverse weave btb.
T
no, they sort of seperate, infact the line up paralell for a minute when they cross. I think maybe you can get them together, but the jury is out on how.
no icon, not for 1 hand, and you have to be able to do it with the btb portion pointing stright back, not with the hand out sideways, thats cheating!
'ultimate contortionist' prizes for reverse weave btb.
T
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Dont see how it would be possible to go BTB - BTH without your hand pointing outwards. Limbs get in the way if you spin true BTB and go BTH. Only way I found to do it so far is to have your elbow BTB with your hand pointing out at around your waist. Bring it up and BTH when the poi begins its upward arch.
Dont see how it would be possible to go BTB - BTH without your hand pointing outwards. Limbs get in the way if you spin true BTB and go BTH. Only way I found to do it so far is to have your elbow BTB with your hand pointing out at around your waist. Bring it up and BTH when the poi begins its upward arch.
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yo, exactly.
you have to turn the whole arm to go from one to the other, cos the elbows have to point the other direction. add to that the fact your going against the grain to move it, and suddenly it all looks much harder. but i assure you its possible, just start without the poi and just the hand positions first.
have fun.
T
yo, exactly.
you have to turn the whole arm to go from one to the other, cos the elbows have to point the other direction. add to that the fact your going against the grain to move it, and suddenly it all looks much harder. but i assure you its possible, just start without the poi and just the hand positions first.
have fun.
T
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Bah, I give up on that one for now. Maybe once I get my reverse flowers down right Ill give this one a second go.
Bah, I give up on that one for now. Maybe once I get my reverse flowers down right Ill give this one a second go.
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i re read it and trie to do it but i jsut dont get it
u spin it worward but....wait..recap: normal weave= right poi does both spins on left side and left poi does 2 spins on right side... revesring it from that point would be impossible lol by physucal law... i dunno maybe a vid or u can explain waht kindof effect it does 
i re read it and trie to do it but i jsut dont get it
u spin it worward but....wait..recap: normal weave= right poi does both spins on left side and left poi does 2 spins on right side... revesring it from that point would be impossible lol by physucal law... i dunno maybe a vid or u can explain waht kindof effect it does it must be green
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like wait... lol i tried this again.. if my right poi starts off under my left arm it cant go over unless i cross them over to my gith side...and that would be a normal weave
unless i i make it spin within my arsm but for that the poi woudl avhe to be bout 7 inch long in its full lengh cus thats the space i have.....
k i'm not getting this
like wait... lol i tried this again.. if my right poi starts off under my left arm it cant go over unless i cross them over to my gith side...and that would be a normal weave
unless i i make it spin within my arsm but for that the poi woudl avhe to be bout 7 inch long in its full lengh cus thats the space i have.....k i'm not getting this
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ive just learned this in same time/paralle time.. seems alot easier that way...
been trying it in split time, but my planes go all wonkey...
more practise for me
o and joulz, i dont think it would work with really long poi, as you need to be able to separate them, it seems ok with my poi, which are just under arm length though
of course i could be doing the wrong thing.
and howzabout anti weave?
ive just learned this in same time/paralle time.. seems alot easier that way...
been trying it in split time, but my planes go all wonkey
...more practise for me
o and joulz, i dont think it would work with really long poi, as you need to be able to separate them, it seems ok with my poi, which are just under arm length though
of course i could be doing the wrong thing.
and howzabout anti weave?
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yo, im comming round to thinking it should be called anti-weave which lets face it is a much cooler name
joolez, some clarification:
say we start with the right poi comming across underneith to the left side.
the left poi then comes over above and moves to the outside plane.
the right poi then anti-spins upwards between the left poi and the body whilst the left poi spins downwards.
after 1 rev the left poi transfers through the plane of the right and across to the right side of the body underneith the right arm.
the right poi then joins it and goes to the outside plane.
then the left poi spins up inside whilst the right does down and through the plane to start the sequence again on the left side.
there is a degree of seperation required, but as long as you keep one poi inside the other you dont have to seperate them totally.
youll notice that its dead easy to hyperloop them in this position, thats because the natural state of a loop is the clash between an anti-spin and normal spin.
your planes do go wonky, but kneed to be kept sttraight for it to work. a great one for keeping you in line!
hope this helps.
T
yo, im comming round to thinking it should be called anti-weave which lets face it is a much cooler name
joolez, some clarification:
say we start with the right poi comming across underneith to the left side.
the left poi then comes over above and moves to the outside plane.
the right poi then anti-spins upwards between the left poi and the body whilst the left poi spins downwards.
after 1 rev the left poi transfers through the plane of the right and across to the right side of the body underneith the right arm.
the right poi then joins it and goes to the outside plane.
then the left poi spins up inside whilst the right does down and through the plane to start the sequence again on the left side.
there is a degree of seperation required, but as long as you keep one poi inside the other you dont have to seperate them totally.
youll notice that its dead easy to hyperloop them in this position, thats because the natural state of a loop is the clash between an anti-spin and normal spin.
your planes do go wonky, but kneed to be kept sttraight for it to work. a great one for keeping you in line!
hope this helps.
T
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perfect!
have been waiting for someone to do this for a looooong time
tom you are an absolute demon
if you can do all these you now have what i refer to in my little head as the 'full weave set'.
it came from thinking about the 3bt bf weave.
there are four ways to do it:
left poi fwd, right poi rev - fwd weave motion
left poi fwd, right poi rev - rev weave motion
right poi fwd, left poi rev - fwd weave motion
right poi fwd, left poi rev - rev weave motion
add to these the two normal 3bt weaves:
right poi fwd, left poi fwd - fwd weave motion
right poi rev, left poi rev - rev weave motion
which leave the two 'anti-weaves' you describe above for a full set:
right poi fwd, left poi fwd - rev weave motion
right poi rev, left poi rev - fwd weave motion
the full weave set contains every possible combination of poi direction with 3bt weave hand movements.
which is the stuff in bold there
i can't do all 4 bf weaves even so don't expect me to be learning the anti's any time soon
perfect!
have been waiting for someone to do this for a looooong time
tom you are an absolute demon
if you can do all these you now have what i refer to in my little head as the 'full weave set'.
it came from thinking about the 3bt bf weave.
there are four ways to do it:
left poi fwd, right poi rev - fwd weave motion
left poi fwd, right poi rev - rev weave motion
right poi fwd, left poi rev - fwd weave motion
right poi fwd, left poi rev - rev weave motion
add to these the two normal 3bt weaves:
right poi fwd, left poi fwd - fwd weave motion
right poi rev, left poi rev - rev weave motion
which leave the two 'anti-weaves' you describe above for a full set:
right poi fwd, left poi fwd - rev weave motion
right poi rev, left poi rev - fwd weave motion
the full weave set contains every possible combination of poi direction with 3bt weave hand movements.
which is the stuff in bold there
i can't do all 4 bf weaves even so don't expect me to be learning the anti's any time soon
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i was thinking about it in a similar way to that too, except not with bf weave, with figure of eight...
there are four ways to do that too.
forewards right hand on top
forewards left hand on top
backwards right hand on top
backwards left hand on top
so it kinda makes sense that there are four 'weaves'... or thats what i was thinking to myself shortly after i first read this thread...
i havnt thought about there being four butterfly weaves beofre though. so thanks for mentioning that
i was thinking about it in a similar way to that too, except not with bf weave, with figure of eight...
there are four ways to do that too.
forewards right hand on top
forewards left hand on top
backwards right hand on top
backwards left hand on top
so it kinda makes sense that there are four 'weaves'... or thats what i was thinking to myself shortly after i first read this thread...
i havnt thought about there being four butterfly weaves beofre though. so thanks for mentioning that
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yep.
by the same token, there's another 8 2bt bf weaves too
if you put the two fwd 2bt weaves together (by adding an extra circle on each side to swap which is on top) you get a fwd 3bt weave.
you can tell poi'ers from club swingers by this distinction usually - i learnt what a 2bt weave was by breaking down a 3bt weave whereas clubswingers will usually learn the two cross-follows (2bt weaves) in one direction and then learn to extend it by adding an extra circle to swap between them.
i stumbled across the other two 3bt weave versions when someone told me about how 3bt bf weaves worked 4 ways.
i immediately transferred it (in my head) back to the cross-follow 3bt weave giving me the normal two weaves and the components for anti-weaves.
so i tried to spin one.
and got very stuck.
and since i rarely post about things i can't spin (i.e. things which i'm not sure about how they work), i never mentioned it to anyone except jonnny.
i still don't get how they fit but i know i'll see [nx] eventually and he'll be really good at them by then
tom, can we create a special prize for the first person to spin a 5bt anti-weave?
if not for that then simply for the full weave set (all spun with the same time natch - either follow-time or split-time).
unless you can spin all 8 bits already...
yep.
by the same token, there's another 8 2bt bf weaves too
if you put the two fwd 2bt weaves together (by adding an extra circle on each side to swap which is on top) you get a fwd 3bt weave.
you can tell poi'ers from club swingers by this distinction usually - i learnt what a 2bt weave was by breaking down a 3bt weave whereas clubswingers will usually learn the two cross-follows (2bt weaves) in one direction and then learn to extend it by adding an extra circle to swap between them.
i stumbled across the other two 3bt weave versions when someone told me about how 3bt bf weaves worked 4 ways.
i immediately transferred it (in my head) back to the cross-follow 3bt weave giving me the normal two weaves and the components for anti-weaves.
so i tried to spin one.
and got very stuck.
and since i rarely post about things i can't spin (i.e. things which i'm not sure about how they work), i never mentioned it to anyone except jonnny.
i still don't get how they fit but i know i'll see [nx] eventually and he'll be really good at them by then
tom, can we create a special prize for the first person to spin a 5bt anti-weave?
if not for that then simply for the full weave set (all spun with the same time natch - either follow-time or split-time).
unless you can spin all 8 bits already...
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Yes. you can make a prize for 5 beat, you dont have to ask me.
and yes, i claim the full weave prize (well, dodgily, you want 180 plane brakes with that?)
T
Yes. you can make a prize for 5 beat, you dont have to ask me.
and yes, i claim the full weave prize
(well, dodgily, you want 180 plane brakes with that?)T
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ya read my mind - just edited and changed it to 'can we create a prize'
and spotless plane breaks aren't required
i reckon you can get away with a little bit of 'v' with me
edit: and that was your 2000th post by the way tom
nice one and all that
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Yes. you can make a prize for 5 beat, you dont have to ask me.
and yes, i claim the full weave prize
ya read my mind - just edited and changed it to 'can we create a prize'
and spotless plane breaks aren't required
i reckon you can get away with a little bit of 'v' with me
edit: and that was your 2000th post by the way tom
nice one and all that
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i can do it four beat split time, and 5 beat same time, with the same hand movements as a 4 beat same time and 5 beat split time butterfly weaves. which is odd. cant do a 3 beat one at all...
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i can do it four beat split time, and 5 beat same time, with the same hand movements as a 4 beat same time and 5 beat split time butterfly weaves. which is odd. cant do a 3 beat one at all...
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so... all thqat stuff NX was desribing is a for motion rev weave and vice-versa? lol
btw wahtsa plane? so i can understand better waht your saying?
so... all thqat stuff NX was desribing is a for motion rev weave and vice-versa? lol
btw wahtsa plane? so i can understand better waht your saying?
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I may never be able to do any of these moves but I do understand what you all are saying.
Can I suggest the term "Converse" for moving one's arms in the opposite direction that the poi are going?
This really isn't a reverse weave (as Nx stated) but it is related. If I video tape a weave and play it backwards you get a traditional reverse weave.
"Converse" would then better describe things like flowers and this newfangled weaves you all talk about here. It seems like this is a NEW concept in some aspects that are being developed and it would be nice to have a name that doesn't confuse the newbies.
Oh wait... How about "retrograde"... that works too. "Retro" weave? Damn it, now I like them both. "Retrograde" is actually the perfect scientific definition of what's going on. Hang on... (runs off to make his case)...
I may never be able to do any of these moves but I do understand what you all are saying.
Can I suggest the term "Converse" for moving one's arms in the opposite direction that the poi are going?
This really isn't a reverse weave (as Nx stated) but it is related. If I video tape a weave and play it backwards you get a traditional reverse weave.
"Converse" would then better describe things like flowers and this newfangled weaves you all talk about here. It seems like this is a NEW concept in some aspects that are being developed and it would be nice to have a name that doesn't confuse the newbies.
Oh wait... How about "retrograde"... that works too. "Retro" weave? Damn it, now I like them both. "Retrograde" is actually the perfect scientific definition of what's going on. Hang on... (runs off to make his case)...
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
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on spercaulism (sp?) we have been calling the phenomenon 'anti-spin' so this wouve would be an 'anti-spin weave'
T
on spercaulism (sp?) we have been calling the phenomenon 'anti-spin' so this wouve would be an 'anti-spin weave'
T
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would it be possbile to post a tutorial on spechulism?
would it be possbile to post a tutorial on spechulism?
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Antispin weave indeed.
That's exactly what retrograde means but sounds somewhat less geeky.
As long as we don't call it 'reverse' I'm cool.
Is there any way someone could come over to my house and teach it to me? I could make tea.
Thanks!
Antispin weave indeed.
That's exactly what retrograde means but sounds somewhat less geeky.
As long as we don't call it 'reverse' I'm cool.
Is there any way someone could come over to my house and teach it to me? I could make tea.
Thanks!
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
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Yep been doing this a while one of my faves, got called the angel by my mate cuz if you dont keep it tight it looks like an angel apparently - but dont try this in front of a mirror it can get real painful. goes down quite well in dance clubs too.
Had one real good smack on the nose when I bought it infront and the poi collided and both went straight for the end of my nose - god the agony thought I'd broke it
Just make sure that the leading hand is a few mil in front of the following hand.
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prizes for the first person to cleanly make a backwads butterfly go from front to btb to bth.
Yep been doing this a while one of my faves, got called the angel by my mate cuz if you dont keep it tight it looks like an angel apparently - but dont try this in front of a mirror it can get real painful. goes down quite well in dance clubs too.
Had one real good smack on the nose when I bought it infront and the poi collided and both went straight for the end of my nose - god the agony thought I'd broke it
Just make sure that the leading hand is a few mil in front of the following hand.
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121 posts
Location: Bournemouth
121 posts
Location: Bournemouth
Posted:
umm can i try.......
start by swinging both poi backwards alternatley (obviously)
then as the left poi reaches the bottom of it's circle bring the right poi across and over the top and start to swing the left round to your right side.....
once i could do that you just play around with it until you get it going continuously..... just keep trying ......
if i have confused you even more i am deeply sorry....lol
umm can i try.......
start by swinging both poi backwards alternatley (obviously)
then as the left poi reaches the bottom of it's circle bring the right poi across and over the top and start to swing the left round to your right side.....
once i could do that you just play around with it until you get it going continuously..... just keep trying ......
if i have confused you even more i am deeply sorry....lol
was hibernating through winter.....oh and summer i spose...ok im just lazy
enlightened
187 posts
Location: montreal
187 posts
Location: montreal
Posted:
from waht i understood and i'm probably way more confused than u r
u gotta spin the poi forward while creating the reverse motion with your hands as if u were doing a reverse weave... prob got that wrong but that would explain the name anti weave since oposites cancel each other but... where it doesnt make sense is tht if u spin backwards, how can u spin forward
well get it eventually Ðraghkyre
from waht i understood and i'm probably way more confused than u r
u gotta spin the poi forward while creating the reverse motion with your hands as if u were doing a reverse weave... prob got that wrong but that would explain the name anti weave since oposites cancel each other but... where it doesnt make sense is tht if u spin backwards, how can u spin forward
well get it eventually Ðraghkyre
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big and good and broken
7,330 posts
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay, United Kingdom
big and good and broken
7,330 posts
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay, United Kingdom
Posted:
watch your hands guys:
with a fwd weave you bring your hands from underneath the other arm, back across to its natural side and back over to on top of the other arm.
with a rev weave you do the opposite of this - move a hand from on top, back to its natural side and back underneath the other arm.
so spin a rev weave over and over and over and over, until the hand/arm movement is imprinted on your brain.
now start with the poi spinning fwd and try to recreate the arm movements from the rev weave.
a separation is required on each side to avoid tangles.
watch your hands guys:
with a fwd weave you bring your hands from underneath the other arm, back across to its natural side and back over to on top of the other arm.
with a rev weave you do the opposite of this - move a hand from on top, back to its natural side and back underneath the other arm.
so spin a rev weave over and over and over and over, until the hand/arm movement is imprinted on your brain.
now start with the poi spinning fwd and try to recreate the arm movements from the rev weave.
a separation is required on each side to avoid tangles.
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