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old hand
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Location: New York City, USA
old hand
899 posts
Location: New York City, USA
Posted:
When we were having some trouble down by the Seine trying to light up the poi with a disposable lighter, I really missed not having a windproof one.
Now, I'm looking at zippos and butanes and wondering what makes the most sense.
Does anybody have any thoughts on the matter?
Thanks!
Raph
When we were having some trouble down by the Seine trying to light up the poi with a disposable lighter, I really missed not having a windproof one.
Now, I'm looking at zippos and butanes and wondering what makes the most sense.
Does anybody have any thoughts on the matter?
Thanks!
Raph
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Location: Warwickshire, United Kingdom
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Location: Warwickshire, United Kingdom
Posted:
I find it easier for lighting and relighting to have something burning constantly to just hold the poi over. Candles are ok when not windy, when windy just get a small metal (or thick glass) container (like ash tray sized) with some paraffin soaked tissue in it (and a bit more paraffin for goo measure) and light up. It'll burn for over an hour and survive pretty damn strong wind.
I find it easier for lighting and relighting to have something burning constantly to just hold the poi over. Candles are ok when not windy, when windy just get a small metal (or thick glass) container (like ash tray sized) with some paraffin soaked tissue in it (and a bit more paraffin for goo measure) and light up. It'll burn for over an hour and survive pretty damn strong wind.
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416 posts
Location: Hartford, CT USA
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Location: Hartford, CT USA
Posted:
hummmm, i like my pressurized butan lighter, very fun,a nd it really cant be blown out, its a windmill if you want to know the brand name...
oh, and speaking of fun toys!!!!
my friend has a lighter called a blast match, which is basically a spring loaded flint and steel that sends out a shower of sparks when the flint is depressed, very fun, and it will light kero and colemans lamp fuel...
hummmm, i like my pressurized butan lighter, very fun,a nd it really cant be blown out, its a windmill if you want to know the brand name...
oh, and speaking of fun toys!!!!
my friend has a lighter called a blast match, which is basically a spring loaded flint and steel that sends out a shower of sparks when the flint is depressed, very fun, and it will light kero and colemans lamp fuel...
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Location: Ft worth Texas
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Location: Ft worth Texas
Posted:
yes a butane pocket torch ,make sure its a torch that is wind proof.
yes a butane pocket torch ,make sure its a torch that is wind proof.
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poo-bah
1,015 posts
Location: Austin TX USA
1,015 posts
Location: Austin TX USA
Posted:
Agree with Flid. I have a smudge-pot that I use for lighting--it's similar to a tiki torch, but in a weighted sphere, not on a long stalk.
I also have a Colibri lighter (it was a gift). Ridiculously expensive, but really windproof and powerful--it's like have a pocket-size welding torch.
Agree with Flid. I have a smudge-pot that I use for lighting--it's similar to a tiki torch, but in a weighted sphere, not on a long stalk.
I also have a Colibri lighter (it was a gift). Ridiculously expensive, but really windproof and powerful--it's like have a pocket-size welding torch.
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old hand
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Location: New York City, USA
old hand
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Location: New York City, USA
Posted:
Thanks!!
Raph
Thanks!!
Raph
Monkey Wrangler
183 posts
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
183 posts
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Posted:
I'd say butane torch first, then Zippo.
A really neat way to light poi or staff with your new lighter (not butane, too hot) is to put on fire retardant gloves, put a small amount of fuel on the palms of the gloves and put a lighter in one hand as well. Light the lighter and hold your hands together to set them both alight. When poi/staff is lit, put your hands together to snuff out the flame. Might not be the best idea with a disposable due to the possiblity of exploding, however small it may be since you're not on fire very long.
I'd say butane torch first, then Zippo.
A really neat way to light poi or staff with your new lighter (not butane, too hot) is to put on fire retardant gloves, put a small amount of fuel on the palms of the gloves and put a lighter in one hand as well. Light the lighter and hold your hands together to set them both alight. When poi/staff is lit, put your hands together to snuff out the flame. Might not be the best idea with a disposable due to the possiblity of exploding, however small it may be since you're not on fire very long.
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada.
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Posted:
there are a few very flashy zippo tricks (which are also very hard and would take a lot of time to learn) that could really spruce up the beginning of a routine.
Ones like this [url[https://zippotricks.com/submitted_tricks/Hard_Tricks/level3_32/level3_32.html[/url]
are pretty visible from a distance to.
there are a few very flashy zippo tricks (which are also very hard and would take a lot of time to learn) that could really spruce up the beginning of a routine.
Ones like this [url[https://zippotricks.com/submitted_tricks/Hard_Tricks/level3_32/level3_32.html[/url]
are pretty visible from a distance to.
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Posted:
[ 12. November 2002, 12:52: Message edited by: [garbo] ]
quote:
Get the
quote:[garbo]
New zippo MPL
[ 12. November 2002, 12:52: Message edited by: [garbo] ]
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada.
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada.
Posted:
That lighter is certainly neat and classy looking.
But really it's just a glorified BBQ lighter.
That lighter is certainly neat and classy looking.
But really it's just a glorified BBQ lighter.
NYC
9,232 posts
Location: NYC, NY, USA
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Location: NYC, NY, USA
Posted:
And at 8" it'd be tough to just keep in your pocket.
(Oh grow up you dirty little punks!)
And at 8" it'd be tough to just keep in your pocket.
(Oh grow up you dirty little punks!)
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
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Location: Seattle, Washington, USA
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Location: Seattle, Washington, USA
Posted:
We have a fantastic Bernz-o-matic propane torch. That baby will light anything in any wind conditions. Yes, it's a bit bulky with the propane tank on the bottom, but the one hit trigger thing is way cool.
See the website here.
We have a fantastic Bernz-o-matic propane torch. That baby will light anything in any wind conditions. Yes, it's a bit bulky with the propane tank on the bottom, but the one hit trigger thing is way cool.
See the website here.
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old hand
899 posts
Location: New York City, USA
old hand
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Location: New York City, USA
Posted:
I'm not sure I like the idea of walking around with a propane tank in my pocket..
Raphael
I'm not sure I like the idea of walking around with a propane tank in my pocket..
Raphael
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Location: Texas, USA
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Location: Texas, USA
Posted:
quote:That something ya bought or something ya made?
Originally posted by adamrice:
I have a smudge-pot that I use for lighting--it's similar to a tiki torch, but in a weighted sphere, not on a long stalk.
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poo-bah
1,015 posts
Location: Austin TX USA
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Location: Austin TX USA
Posted:
Bought. About $12 from Walmart. Well worth it. One fillup with lamp oil will probably burn for about 12 hours. Nobody has to hunt for a lighter to get lighted, and it never blows out in the wind.
Bought. About $12 from Walmart. Well worth it. One fillup with lamp oil will probably burn for about 12 hours. Nobody has to hunt for a lighter to get lighted, and it never blows out in the wind.
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Location: Texas, USA
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Location: Texas, USA
Posted:
The obvious next question is: what is it called? Hehe. I went out to Wally World yesterday, but didn't see quite what I was looking for. Do ya remember if it was in the candle and smell good foof section? Or the gardening section? They've seem to have moved all the gardening stuff and replaced it with Christmas stuff. Our Wally World is one of those that has "everything except the thing you're looking for".
The obvious next question is: what is it called? Hehe. I went out to Wally World yesterday, but didn't see quite what I was looking for. Do ya remember if it was in the candle and smell good foof section? Or the gardening section? They've seem to have moved all the gardening stuff and replaced it with Christmas stuff. Our Wally World is one of those that has "everything except the thing you're looking for".
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Location: Texas, USA
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Location: Texas, USA
Posted:
Nevermind! I found something that'll work just as well. Two little stone torches for a patio/garden. Were on sale for $5 even!
Nevermind! I found something that'll work just as well. Two little stone torches for a patio/garden. Were on sale for $5 even!
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poo-bah
1,015 posts
Location: Austin TX USA
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Location: Austin TX USA
Posted:
Garden section, sorry. I don't know what the product name is, I just refer to it generically as a smudge pot. It looks like a stainless-steel bomb about the size of a bowling ball with a black iron wart on top.
[ 14. November 2002, 15:43: Message edited by: adamrice ]
Garden section, sorry. I don't know what the product name is, I just refer to it generically as a smudge pot. It looks like a stainless-steel bomb about the size of a bowling ball with a black iron wart on top.
[ 14. November 2002, 15:43: Message edited by: adamrice ]
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Location: Denver, Co. U.S.A.
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Posted:
Actually what I'm thinking of may be a bit diffirent, but I had a friend who had a propane torch that basicly equated to a large wind proof candle flame. I think it was designed to be some sort of camping heater, but it works really well for a constant flame for every one to light off of at gatherings. It was about a liter size propane tank with a sort of satelite looking thing to sheild the flame. Works brilliantly.
quote:Yet you feel comfortable swinging balls of fire around. How odd..........
Originally posted by Raphael96:
I'm not sure I like the idea of walking around with a propane tank in my pocket..
Raphael
Actually what I'm thinking of may be a bit diffirent, but I had a friend who had a propane torch that basicly equated to a large wind proof candle flame. I think it was designed to be some sort of camping heater, but it works really well for a constant flame for every one to light off of at gatherings. It was about a liter size propane tank with a sort of satelite looking thing to sheild the flame. Works brilliantly.
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada.
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada.
Posted:
Do you mean like this?
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They are very nice for camping or as a backup incase of power outage. They are pretty cheap to.
Do you mean like this?
Non-Https Image Link
They are very nice for camping or as a backup incase of power outage. They are pretty cheap to.
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Liquid Cow
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Location: High Wycombe, England
Liquid Cow
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Location: High Wycombe, England
Posted:
Since I have a fondness for zippos, I really want one of these:
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It might be a bit large to carry around with the rest of my spinning kit, but it'd be a hell of a lot easier to light my poi with than my normal zippo since I could just leave it lit on the floor.
Since I have a fondness for zippos, I really want one of these:
Non-Https Image Link
It might be a bit large to carry around with the rest of my spinning kit, but it'd be a hell of a lot easier to light my poi with than my normal zippo since I could just leave it lit on the floor.
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada.
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Posted:
hehehe best zippo ever. I want one of those to. Theres also a certain amount of comedy value involved with whipping that gargantuan thing out.
hehehe best zippo ever. I want one of those to. Theres also a certain amount of comedy value involved with whipping that gargantuan thing out.
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old hand
899 posts
Location: New York City, USA
old hand
899 posts
Location: New York City, USA
Posted:
Now, THATS a zippo!
Raphael
Now, THATS a zippo!
Raphael
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sleeping with angels
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Location: anaheim CA usa
sleeping with angels
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Location: anaheim CA usa
Posted:
this may soud wierd but i use one of the big lighters used for lighting barbques
this may soud wierd but i use one of the big lighters used for lighting barbques
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old hand
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Location: Oregon, USA
old hand
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Location: Oregon, USA
Posted:
I've used trigger start propane torches, they're handy but awkward to lug around... They'll light steel wool no problem without any need to for any sort of fuel spike..
Also used everything from candles to matches to bonfires.. fire is fire
I've used trigger start propane torches, they're handy but awkward to lug around... They'll light steel wool no problem without any need to for any sort of fuel spike..
Also used everything from candles to matches to bonfires.. fire is fire
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Location: England
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Location: England
Posted:
i bought a zippo today... and it is AWESOME!!! It was only cheap coz i didnt have a lot of cash to fork out, even still it set me back 17 quid!!!
Just go buy one, go on, buy it now, I promise you will not regret it
i bought a zippo today... and it is AWESOME!!! It was only cheap coz i didnt have a lot of cash to fork out, even still it set me back 17 quid!!!
Just go buy one, go on, buy it now, I promise you will not regret it
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Unremarkable
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Location: Cochrane, Canada
Unremarkable
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Location: Cochrane, Canada
Posted:
I use a little refillable butane welding torch... Not too big (handheld) and hot enough to light anything in a matter of seconds.
Had to get me dad to buy it for me as I'm still underage.
Works better than anything I've used up 'til now, and I still haven't found anything wrong with it...
I use a little refillable butane welding torch... Not too big (handheld) and hot enough to light anything in a matter of seconds.
Had to get me dad to buy it for me as I'm still underage.
Works better than anything I've used up 'til now, and I still haven't found anything wrong with it...
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master of disaster
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Location: New York, USA
master of disaster
3,354 posts
Location: New York, USA
Posted:
for steel wool, all you needs is a nice 9v battery
usually use a jet lighter, though i just got a zippo...and me' butane lighter needs a refillin
for steel wool, all you needs is a nice 9v battery
usually use a jet lighter, though i just got a zippo
...and me' butane lighter needs a refillin kyrian: I've felt your finger connect with me many times
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Location: USA
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Location: USA
Posted:
Adam - I have that same thing. It's advertised to stay lit in 80 MPH winds. Sounds burningman proof too!
Adam - I have that same thing. It's advertised to stay lit in 80 MPH winds. Sounds burningman proof too!
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sleeping with angels
508 posts
Location: anaheim CA usa
sleeping with angels
508 posts
Location: anaheim CA usa
Posted:
fni i use the same thing for steal wool we are the truely cool ones..
fni i use the same thing for steal wool we are the truely cool ones..
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